bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 16:43
Back to the usual powder-puff walk-it-into-the-net couldnt-hit-a-barn-door forward line.
It says it all that it took a defender to get our goal.
MonTheRovers!!
Sep 13 2008, 16:45
QUOTE (bring_back_the_twa_hoops @ Sep 13 2008, 17:43)

Back to the usual powder-puff walk-it-into-the-net couldnt-hit-a-barn-door forward line.
It says it all that it took a defender to get our goal.

STFU
bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 16:47
QUOTE (MonTheRovers!! @ Sep 13 2008, 17:45)

STFU
U2
East Fife were a bit lucky, that has to be conceeded. No matter how many balls we pinged at McCulloch he still was somehow keeping them out.
Brilliant game to watch.
McCulloch was Man of the Match, without question. Aye, he gave away a penalty, but then he saved it. On another day, with an inferior keeper, the Rovers could've had 5 or 6.
Hope Gareth Wardlaw's injury isn't too bad. Looked like a dislocated elbow. More likely to effect his job as a Postie than his job at the Rovers though...
We should've won it, I don't think East Fife even came close in the first half, but we struggled with finishing. With the chances he had, Weir should've scored at least once, but he did go very close when he hit the post.
Can't really fault the effort, and it was no surprise that the team was applauded off the park.
MonTheRovers!!
Sep 13 2008, 16:48
QUOTE (bring_back_the_twa_hoops @ Sep 13 2008, 17:47)

U2
Lollercoatser!!!111oneoneone
Michael W
Sep 13 2008, 16:49
Just as I finished my essay a new thread appears

Anyhoo, here's my summery again...
QUOTE (Michael W @ Sep 13 2008, 17:45)

I enjoyed myself today, was good to finally feel some proper derby tension again. Not quite so happy with the result though, we really should have taken all three points.
I doubt anyone would dispute that we were the better team today. We had the better of the chances and managed to miss two penalties, quite inexplicable really. Weir was unlucky with his volley and their keeper pulled off a few cracking saves near the end.
We failed to take our chances and ultimately payed the price for it. When EF scored, I thought that was game over. We'd had them under the cosh and then they went up and scored. Thankfully we got back into it when Ellis headed in though.
Wardlaws done himself a bad one unfortunately. My mate saw Weir look at Wardlaw and then look away in disgust whilst I seen a couple of EF players gesturing to the arm as if the bone was popping out. Looks like a dislocated Elbow. Shame, I thought he had a decent game. I wish him a speedy recovery.
I was very unimpressed with East Fife today, they really didn't look like anything given the money that's been spent on the side. A half decent team would have thumped them. Having said that, McCulloch arguably won a point single handedly with a great display.
To our own team - generally we played reasonably well, although when East Fife did threaten us we did look a little frail defensively. A few good individual performances today, although we need to work on our finishing and also our penalty taking abilty. Thats 3 we've missed this season now!
Whisper it, but I through Charleston done a decent job today

Other than that, 2 points dropped rather than one gained.
Aloysius Snuffleupagus
Sep 13 2008, 16:51
Did the Huge Clothy survive this encounter? I was texting The_Russian during the first half trying to persuade him to set fire to it..... just for a laugh likes
QUOTE (Dunc @ Sep 13 2008, 17:48)

Brilliant game to watch.
McCulloch was Man of the Match, without question. Aye, he gave away a penalty, but then he saved it. On another day, with an inferior keeper, the Rovers could've had 5 or 6.
Hope Gareth Wardlaw's injury isn't too bad. Looked like a dislocated elbow. More likely to effect his job as a Postie than his job at the Rovers though...
We should've won it, I don't think East Fife even came close in the first half, but we struggled with finishing. With the chances he had, Weir should've scored at least once, but he did go very close when he hit the post.
Can't really fault the effort, and it was no surprise that the team was applauded off the park.
spot on. Goes to show we have to take our chances. Shouldn't you be away getting totalled at freshers?
QUOTE (rw89 @ Sep 13 2008, 17:51)

spot on. Goes to show we have to take our chances. Shouldn't you be away getting totalled at freshers?

I'm just waiting for my dinner!

Then I'm off to Stirling again.
My voice is going though

Baws.
bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 16:56
Hard to believe how we didnt bury them. OK there keeper was outstanding but we missed too many easy chances, never mind the two penalty misses. Fukkin hell.
I thought Charleston wasnt too bad - gave us a couple of dubious decisions but overall he was competent enough. Both penalties were correct - he could have sent the EF keeper off but that would have been harsh; he could have sent O'Connor off too for brainlessly grabbing the ball out of the area, technically.
We played the better football by far. I thought EF would have been better but they looked a poor side - Stranraer put on a better show. They nearly won it at the death tho.
Andy.C
Sep 13 2008, 16:58
QUOTE (bring_back_the_twa_hoops @ Sep 13 2008, 17:43)

Back to the usual powder-puff walk-it-into-the-net couldnt-hit-a-barn-door forward line.
It says it all that it took a defender to get our goal.

That is your initial input into a magnificent, pulsating match? Jesus!
I really enjoyed the game today great entertainment from beginning to end and credit to both sets of fans for creating a good atmosphere.
East Fife are worse than I thought they would be and if it wasn't for missing two penalties, hitting the post, squandering some clear cut chances and McCulloch having the game of his life it would have been a hammering.
Craig Charlston and his asisstants had an excellent match to be fair.
Anyone with news on Gareth Wardlaw? I thought it looked like a dislocation.....
You left your shitey flag up the back by the way, what did it have spray painted on it?
QUOTE (Dunc @ Sep 13 2008, 17:52)

I'm just waiting for my dinner!

Then I'm off to Stirling again.
My voice is going though

Baws.
keyser_soze
Sep 13 2008, 17:02
My first game of the season and thoroughly enjoyed it. McCulloch played like a man posessed with a string of excellent saves. However............... WTF !! a midfielder and defender taking the penalties
Have to say I was very dissapointed with East Fife, I expected a hell of a lot more from them, they seemed content to play the long ball and only on occasions did they string any passes together.
Felt overall Raith deserved to win the game, however not too dissapointed as I would have taken a point before the game started. With a bit more clinical finishing in front of goal the game would have been long wrapped up before EF took the lead, some squeaky bum stuff for both sets of fans in the last 5 mins or so as lots af chances created at each end.
Michael W
Sep 13 2008, 17:02
QUOTE (Andy.C @ Sep 13 2008, 17:58)

Anyone with news on Gareth Wardlaw? I thought it looked like a dislocation.....
From what I seen, I'm sure you're right. Looked like a dislocated elbow to me
bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 17:03
QUOTE (Andy.C @ Sep 13 2008, 17:58)

That is your initial input into a magnificent, pulsating match? Jesus!
Yea it was a very good game to watch. Your post is more or less the same as mine. Nevertheless, disappointed at the result tho - we've only ourselves to blame.
PS - amusing to see Wullie Gray waving his black and Yellow scarf before kick-off; I was standing only a few yards from him and he seemed to enjoy the derision from the South Stand.
Andy.C
Sep 13 2008, 17:08
QUOTE (bring_back_the_twa_hoops @ Sep 13 2008, 18:03)

Yea it was a very good game to watch. Your post is more or less the same as mine. Nevertheless, disappointed at the result tho - we've only ourselves to blame.
I meant your opening post bud.
Only saw your second when I had posted my reply.
Take the blinkers off guys. Yes Raith had the bulk of the play (you were at home ffs!) but apart from the first penalty save Willie has sod all to do in the first half.
First 10 mins of the 2nd half you murdered us, Willie saved the 2nd penalty but once Linn came on it was end to end stuff. Lets be honest, the 2 'superb' saves Willie had were straight at him & he would have been disappointed not to have saved them. Weir's effort that hit the post was brilliant & deserved better but then we hit the bar & Craw missed from 3 inches! O'Connor made a great save from Linn's free kick but again it was straight at him!
Hope Wardlaw isn't too bad, never like to see someone get a bad injury.
All in all an exciting afternoon, our support was superb! Outnumbered 5 - 1 by the home my arse! At least 1200 at our end!
BTW WG was shocked at the originality of the Rovers taunts "WG w**k, w**k, w**k" very original guys!
bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 17:11
QUOTE (Andy.C @ Sep 13 2008, 18:08)

I meant your opening post bud.
Only saw your second when I had posted my reply.

OK. I'm a bit flustered at the forwards, although I thought Weir did well despite blasting a good chance well wide in the first half.
Michael W
Sep 13 2008, 17:12
QUOTE (LiamA @ Sep 13 2008, 18:10)

Take the blinkers off guys. Yes Raith had the bulk of the play (you were at home ffs!) but apart from the first penalty save Willie has sod all to do in the first half.
First 10 mins of the 2nd half you murdered us, Willie saved the 2nd penalty but once Linn came on it was end to end stuff. Lets be honest, the 2 'superb' saves Willie had were straight at him & he would have been disappointed not to have saved them. Weir's effort that hit the post was brilliant & deserved better but then we hit the bar & Craw missed from 3 inches! O'Connor made a great save from Linn's free kick but again it was straight at him!
Hope Wardlaw isn't too bad, never like to see someone get a bad injury.
All in all an exciting afternoon, our support was superb! Outnumbered 5 - 1 by the home my arse! At least 1200 at our end!
No-one said anything of the sort
QUOTE (LiamA @ Sep 13 2008, 18:10)

BTW WG was shocked at the originality of the Rovers taunts "WG w**k, w**k, w**k" very original guys!
Really? I just aboot shat myself at the ingenuity of "East Fife... East Fife... East Fife"...
AllanJM
Sep 13 2008, 17:16
Overall I'm disappointed with the result.
First half we battered them and should have been a couple of goals ahead. Wilson tore their left back apart for the whole game and it was close between him Ellis and Weir for Rovers' MOM.
2nd half they came into it more and Dene Shields looks alot better than he used to. That said Cooky was excellent today and certainly rammed Gray's comments about amateur players down his fat throat.
Fagan made a difference when he came on as they actually started using their midfield and there was a 15 minute period in the second half where we were hanging on.
We then had a couple of great chances and McCulloch made a few outstanding saves and was easily MOM.
Disappointed but still unbeaten so it's not too bad.
Great game, and one which should have been made even better by the Rovers running riot. Weir, Wardlaw and Ferry (twice) all missing gilt-edged chances, McCulloch made two fantastic saves and Weir hit the post... not to mention two penalties!
We played well overall, Campbell has been sublime this season and was the same today as well. Wilson was our other star performer, felt was exceptional, penalty miss aside. He had Cameron, Campbell and Fotheringham on toast. Weir was excellet as well, dominated Smart completely.
Both stonewall penalties, it's fair to say. By the letter of the law, shouldn't McCulloch have been sent off? If that was a defender, it'd most definitely be a red card. Two easy saves from the spot kicks, although Ferry should have scored the rebound on Wilson's effort. You should be looking for your strikers or your captain to take penalties, but all shied away.
Overall, we certainly shopuld have won. I expected more from East Fife to be fair, they were quite poor. Shields and Linn were their best players by a long shot. McManus still flatters to decieve, Smart still can't mark and Fotheringham is still a dirty b*****d.
I suppose East Fife will be a bit pissed off Crawford somehow managed to miss late on, that would have won it. Saying that, McCulloch made a great save even later to deny Campbell.
Two points dropped, but thoroughly enjoyed the game.
Edit- Hope to see Wardlaw fit soon. Had a very good game today, even if he was a bit slow passing the ball sometimes. I think Kevin Smith would have been the difference between the teams today, if he was fit.
Big Fifer
Sep 13 2008, 17:16
I'm assuming that ever single one of the Raith fans that have commented so far are being sarcastic about Martin Charleston.
This guy is one of the worst refs I've ever seen.
After the second penalty I thought we might as well have just given the points to Wraith. It wasn't just the penalties though, it was the little decisions in the midddle of the park that he was getting wrong time and time again. He surely must have a personal vendetta against EF.
Oh and by the way, Crawford should have buried that sitter!!!!!!!!
To be honest the first penalty was never a penalty, but can't be sure about the second as we were on the other side but it looked a bit over dramatic!
bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 17:18
QUOTE (Michael W @ Sep 13 2008, 18:12)

No-one said anything of the sort

Aye, there was a post somewhere to that effect.
East Fife brought more fans today than they'll have in the return against us at Bayview (I think its the quality of our facilities they like

). I would say there were about 1000 in the North Stand. The anouncer said over 3600. Great, and a great atmosphere at both ends (I was in the old stand).
QUOTE (Big Fifer @ Sep 13 2008, 18:16)

I'm assuming that ever single one of the Raith fans that have commented so far are being sarcastic about Martin Charleston.
This guy is one of the worst refs I've ever seen.
After the second penalty I thought we might as well have just given the points to Wraith. It wasn't just the penalties though, it was the little decisions in the midddle of the park that he was getting wrong time and time again. He surely must have a personal vendetta against EF.
Oh and by the way, Crawford should have buried that sitter!!!!!!!!
To be honest the first penalty was never a penalty, but can't be sure about the second as we were on the other side but it looked a bit over dramatic!
I've seen biased (I'm a Raith fan, after all) but good god man, open your eyes. One instance for example, McManus punched the ball in the far corner, and was brought down a second later. We got the free kick for handball, but your end was in uproar...
Penalties were stonewallers, count yourself lucky super keeper never walked.
QUOTE (Paco @ Sep 13 2008, 18:16)

By the letter of the law, shouldn't McCulloch have been sent off?
I don't really think so. I don't think Wardlaw was about to score, not with his next touch, he knocked the ball too far in front of himself. Very similar to the penalty we conceded against Falkirk, where McGurn only got a yellow.
East Fife just looked that half yard off the pace, much like we did against Falkirk, and it always leads to lots of fouls, and I thought the referee handled the game well.
I agree with those who said Wilson was excellent. Does anyone else feel he might actually be a bit better suited to the right wing? It'd enable him to get forward even more, and to be honest, his defending isn't his strong point. He usually slows down the defender enough to let Sparky in to make the tackle.
Gordon EF
Sep 13 2008, 17:25
QUOTE (bring_back_the_twa_hoops @ Sep 13 2008, 18:18)

East Fife brought more fans today than they'll have in the return against us at Bayview
Aye, we also took more than you'll take to Bayview.
Big_Andy
Sep 13 2008, 17:25
Penalties WERE definately penalties. Thought we were the pressure team throughout, but EF dangerous on the break. How KKKFozzy stayed on the park is beyond me......... Good game though. BTW, there were just under 700 in the North stand today.
bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 17:25
QUOTE (Big Fifer @ Sep 13 2008, 18:16)

I'm assuming that ever single one of the Raith fans that have commented so far are being sarcastic about Martin Charleston.
This guy is one of the worst refs I've ever seen.
After the second penalty I thought we might as well have just given the points to Wraith. It wasn't just the penalties though, it was the little decisions in the midddle of the park that he was getting wrong time and time again. He surely must have a personal vendetta against EF.
Oh and by the way, Crawford should have buried that sitter!!!!!!!!
To be honest the first penalty was never a penalty, but can't be sure about the second as we were on the other side but it looked a bit over dramatic!
Its Craig Charleston. He is one of the worst refs around and usually has us in a rage, but today I thought he was ok. I think there were a few borderline decisions that went against EF. The first penalty was a good decision - Weir was hauled back as he was about to bury the ball.
QUOTE (Dunc @ Sep 13 2008, 18:23)

I don't really think so. I don't think Wardlaw was about to score, not with his next touch, he knocked the ball too far in front of himself. Very similar to the penalty we conceded against Falkirk, where McGurn only got a yellow.
Good point that, fair enough.
I can't remember where Wardlaw knocked the ball, truth be told, I was too busy bawling for a penalty.
Either way, both were absolute stonewallers. I'm surprised anybody's chosen to dispute that.
On a more negative note, Gary O really doesn't fill me with much confidence.
He's not got much presence, or authority, for a keeper of his size and experience.
He definitely carried the ball outside the box, too, IMO. I'm surprised he wasn't booked, but I'm not really up-to-date on the rules surrounding those situations.
lzreid
Sep 13 2008, 17:33
Got to be disappointed with dropping 2 points after missing 2 penalties but after going behind I was actually quite pleased to come back for a draw.
Both penalties were stonewallers and I wasn't impressed that those were missed. 1 is bad enough but 2 is unforgivable. Weir's shot that hit the foot of the post was lovely and I feel bad for the man, he is clearly in need of a goal and some confidence.
Wilson would have had MOTM if it hadn't been for the missed penalty, he had that wing all to himself at times and Fozzy was always gonna struggle with his pace.
The EF goal was well taken and well struck by Fotheringham but he had too much space. The team
seemed a little dazed after Wardlaw's injury which seemed fair enough to me. The header from Ellis was brilliant and I thought he was excellent for the entire game.
I was very disappointed with the 'show' EF put on. Good quality players who can't play together. No cohesion, poor passing -other than one or two occassions - and very little mobility. McManus is shite, I spent a little time watching him today and watching him as an opposition player is eye-opening. Passing was poor, first touch was like my mother's and he whines at other players so much it's unreal especially since it was invariably his piss poor pass he was greeting at them for not collecting.
All in all a good game but we should have had the full 3 points.
McGlynn said he was looking forward to seeing the home support outnumber the away by a 5- 1 ratio& we would only have 500 fans with us! Never ever going to happen!
Have to disagree about the penalties, the first was stone waller, 2nd couldn't tell but the guy was going across the goal & therfor its not a clear cut scoring opportunity.
We should have had free kick in the lead up to th corner that you scored from, thats we the we decissions that went against us! The tackle the right back put in on Crawford after he'd crossed the ball in the last minute was scandelous yet Charleston missed it!
Just as well football's all about opinions eh?
Andy.C
Sep 13 2008, 17:35
It showed at the final whistle who the most relieved set of fans were.
The East Fife fans with a big cheer and the Rovers fans with an air of dissapointment.
No surprise I suppose. Anyone with fully functional eyes could see that we were by far the better team today.
Rovers_Lad
Sep 13 2008, 17:36
QUOTE (bring_back_the_twa_hoops @ Sep 13 2008, 18:03)

PS - amusing to see Wullie Gray waving his black and Yellow scarf before kick-off; I was standing only a few yards from him and he seemed to enjoy the derision from the South Stand.
Amusing?Extremely childish IMO considering he`s a director respresenting a football club.Thought East Fife were fairly rank rotten when you consider the money they have been throwing around and the players they have brought in
Good to see hes spending his money wisely
Maybe he would be better investing money on a dietician and fitness coach for some of his players
keyser_soze
Sep 13 2008, 17:37
QUOTE (LiamA @ Sep 13 2008, 18:34)

Just as well football's all about opinions eh?
Yep..... and your opinion sucks
...and you watched the game thru your arse!
I think the financial situations of both clubs was perfectly summed up when we finished the match with two 17 year olds up front while East Fife had Chris Templeman getting splinters on the bench.
bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 17:41
QUOTE (Gordon EF @ Sep 13 2008, 18:25)

Aye, we also took more than you'll take to Bayview.

I was impressed by the size of the East Fife crowd and their enthusiasm. But its a one-off whereas we regularly have a big away support. I would think we'd have a similar number at Bayview, tho if both teams are doing well I think they might make it all ticket, which would restrict us.
faither
Sep 13 2008, 17:42
It takes a remarkable degree of ineptitude to miss not one but two penalties.
And I assume the Rovers fans' comments about WG wasting his money on players are borne out of a sense of disappointment at the lack of benefit their own club's investment in the referee produced.
There can be no explanation other than simple bribery that accounts for his completely one-sided collection of decisions today.
QUOTE (bring_back_the_twa_hoops @ Sep 13 2008, 18:41)

I was impressed by the size of the East Fife crowd and their enthusiasm. But its a one-off whereas we regularly have a big away support. I would think we'd have a similar number at Bayview, tho if both teams are doing well I think they might make it all ticket, which would restrict us.
It'll be all ticket no matter what, and we could all but fill New Bayview ourselves. Perhaps we should just be happy with
any number of tickets though.
This has nothing to do with today's game however.
Edit-

at the post by 'faither'. New P&B record for delusion.
QUOTE (faither @ Sep 13 2008, 18:42)

There can be no explanation other than simple bribery that accounts for his completely one-sided collection of decisions today.
i noticed that....quite happy it happened.
Recre Rover
Sep 13 2008, 17:46
QUOTE (faither @ Sep 13 2008, 18:42)

It takes a remarkable degree of ineptitude to miss not one but two penalties.
And I assume the Rovers fans' comments about WG wasting his money on players are borne out of a sense of disappointment at the lack of benefit their own club's investment in the referee produced.
There can be no explanation other than simple bribery that accounts for his completely one-sided collection of decisions today.
bring_back_the_twa_hoops
Sep 13 2008, 17:47
QUOTE (Rovers_Lad @ Sep 13 2008, 18:36)

Amusing?Extremely childish IMO considering he`s a director respresenting a football club.Thought East Fife were fairly rank rotten when you consider the money they have been throwing around and the players they have brought in
Good to see hes spending his money wisely
Maybe he would be better investing money on a dietician and fitness coach for some of his players
Yea, he was a bit childish, thats partly why it was amusing.
Agree about how out of shape the EF players looked. Not that we were able to take advantage of that tho.
Andy.C
Sep 13 2008, 17:48
QUOTE (faither @ Sep 13 2008, 18:42)

It takes a remarkable degree of ineptitude to miss not one but two penalties.
And I assume the Rovers fans' comments about WG wasting his money on players are borne out of a sense of disappointment at the lack of benefit their own club's investment in the referee produced.
There can be no explanation other than simple bribery that accounts for his completely one-sided collection of decisions today.
East Fife are shite and your post is borne out of pure frustration at this fact. We are completely skint and played you off the park.
jack_bauer
Sep 13 2008, 17:48
What a game! I can barely speak after that, that's the most I've ever sung at a Rovers game in my life. This is what derby games are all about, none of this Cowdenbeath nonsense
We could have been 6-0 up after an hour, then East Fife scored against the run of play, credit to our lads for not letting the heads drop and getting the equaliser, I think my heart actually stopped beating for a couple of seconds when Crawford missed that sitter at the other end

I'm also glad that the game seems to have passed without any incidents involving hooligan fans from either club.
Wardlaw has indeed dislocated his elbow, our strikers are dropping like flies at the moment.
Can't wait for the game at New Bayview now
East Fife fans:

And you've left you're flag

:

I also have quite a few videos from the game including Willie Gray's antics before the game and the two penalty misses, but I'm not allowed to put them on YouTube anymore apparantley

So you'll just need to wait for the official highlights on the Rovers site.
Big_Andy
Sep 13 2008, 17:49
QUOTE (Rovers_Lad @ Sep 13 2008, 18:36)

Amusing?
Extremely childish IMO considering he`s a director respresenting a football club.Thought East Fife were fairly rank rotten when you consider the money they have been throwing around and the players they have brought in
Good to see hes spending his money wisely
Maybe he would be better investing money on a dietician and fitness coach for some of his players
Trust me, Wullie Gray revelled in the abuse. So much so, he and his tosspot off a son Harry were waving wads of cash at the Raith fans after the game to try to kick off violence. If it were me in his position in recieving the abuse he did, I would also give it back though. Its like getting on the backs off certain opposition players, then them reacting with a middle finger, and the fans greeting to the polis about the reaction........Both the fans and him were being a bit childish (and yes, I WAS one of them). Was quite amusing to watch though.
The American
Sep 13 2008, 17:51
Lets be honest here. Raith looked a very good team. Shame about the injury, any news?. The fife were never at the races today and we might of well just never bothered to turn up in the first half. Penalties well...both were pens and both good saves by willie.
We were lucky to get out of there with a point but that wasn't anywhere near what we can do, which is a possitve i think.
Looking good for next week.
Mon the fife !
lzreid
Sep 13 2008, 17:52
QUOTE (LiamA @ Sep 13 2008, 18:10)

BTW WG was shocked at the originality of the Rovers taunts "WG w**k, w**k, w**k" very original guys!
Perhaps if he comes to football matches expecting cutting edge humour he's stupid as well as a fat, ugly drug dealer.
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