Celtic and Rangers have often dominated the Scotland squad and fans have put it down to a good youth system rather than any bias. But it was interesting to see how many of the Scotland line ups were actually products of the other 10 SPL clubs rather than England or the OF.

Gordon (Hearts), Naysmith (Hearts), Caldwell (Hibs), Broadfoot (St.Mirren) etc etc

Surely its a good sign of progress in the other clubs.

Most the team on Weds started at non OF.

Gordon - Hearts
Broadfoot - St Mirren
Naysmith - Hearts
Caldwell - Hibs Newcastle/Celtic
McManus - Celtic
Maloney - Celtic
Commons - f**k knows, will say Forest Thanks Wikipedia - Stoke City
Robson - Rangers
Fletcher - Man Utd
Brown - Hibs
McFadden - Motherwell

Subs who came on
Miller - Hibs
Hartley - Hamitlon
Alexander - Scunthorpe

I do however like to see young Scottish lads make the grade at the OF. Our u19 side which reached the finals a few years ago had quite a few OF players, lets hope some make the grade for club and progress to the national side.

oh definitely, its good to see Scots come through at OF where its tougher to make the grade. But its interesting to see how many of these players now play for the OF. Hartley, Caldwell, Brown, Robson (allbeit Rangers via other clubs), Miller, Boyd, Broadfoot. A sign of buying the young talent rather than producing any. McManus is the only one in the past two years or so to make an impact. Apart from McGeady of course but lets not start....

I'd happily see all but 3 or 4 Scottish players drummed out of Ibrox. If you want to play attacking, free flowing football then don't look at Scottish players. I'd have some Scottish influence (Ferguson, McGregor, Thomson, Boyd), and maybe at centre half, but I'd bring in far more technically superior players from Europe.

No argument there. Only need to look at Arsenal.

I do like to see Scottish players make the grade at big clubs in England or the OF, but at club level, look after your own house 1st. As the old saying goes, if you are good enough, you will make it, all be it via maybe a slightly longer route such as David Bentley

The Scottish u-16 team last year, started with 8 Rangers players. Its the way forward

But the point is how many of those eight players will ever make more than a handful of appearances for Rangers. Youth Internationals are not representative of future international talent at all. Theyre all about where you play and who you know. Stephen Simmons must have got about 20 U21 caps.

Def agree about looking after your own house first, clubs have no obligation to provide for the national team. Thats what the national manager and Englsih assistant manager are hired for.

Ross Wallace played 50 or so games for Sunderland in 18 months prior to injury and a rather public falling out with Keane and had been in the kind of form that would have seen him in clear contention for a cap, while Caldwell started his career more so at Celtic than he did at Hibs (moved to Newcastle from Celtic Boys Club at 16).