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Dunning1874
How's he getting on so far? Does he look any better or worse than the player he was in his first spell with you? More importantly from a personal perspective, does he look like a player who'll be capable of playing in the First Division and keeping a place in the Morton team?
Waspie
He's been out injured the last couple of games but prior to that he was doing well. As for him being good enough for Division 1 personally I would say thats a bit of a no-brainer, he is more than capable of being a decent player at that level and Id doubt its any lack of football ability that was behind his move to Morton not working out.
Dunning1874
QUOTE (Waspie @ Sep 11 2008, 15:15) *
He's been out injured the last couple of games but prior to that he was doing well. As for him being good enough for Division 1 personally I would say thats a bit of a no-brainer, he is more than capable of being a decent player at that level and Id doubt its any lack of football ability that was behind his move to Morton not working out.


Cheers.

Had he been putting in 100% effort when he was playing? Like you say, he should be capable of being a decent player, but he didn't have the attitude for it when he was with us.
OldWasp
Playing with full commitment - and playing in his natural position - instead of being stuck out on the wing...
waspees
Unfortunately Jamie has not looked up to the standard he was when he first played with us, despite the quality of the team overall being higher now. Hopefully with more games, and increased confidence this will improve. He is more than capable of playing at a higher level, its a shame that his ability isn't shining through at present.
Father Barrys Sign (Top Half)
QUOTE (waspees @ Sep 12 2008, 00:29) *
Unfortunately Jamie has not looked up to the standard he was when he first played with us, despite the quality of the team overall being higher now. Hopefully with more games, and increased confidence this will improve. He is more than capable of playing at a higher level, its a shame that his ability isn't shining through at present.


Totally disagree with this. Jamie has been excellent so far for Alloa.
The only fault I have noticed so far is that Jamie tries to do a little too much himself, but I think this will change with Brown Ferguson back in midfield doing the groundwork, and Dougie Wilson back to work the flank.
thuglifesmoke
QUOTE (waspees @ Sep 12 2008, 00:29) *
Unfortunately Jamie has not looked up to the standard he was when he first played with us, despite the quality of the team overall being higher now. Hopefully with more games, and increased confidence this will improve. He is more than capable of playing at a higher level, its a shame that his ability isn't shining through at present.

I have to disagree aswell , Jaime fit's right back into the team and I think has been well missed by all the fans
allowafletic
QUOTE (thuglifesmoke @ Sep 13 2008, 10:54) *
I have to disagree aswell , Jaime fit's right back into the team and I think has been well missed by all the fans



Not on todays showing he does not
bsd
He was shite today along with 90% of his teammates.
waspees
I havent missed a game Jamie has played in since his return, including todays 'performance' he is not anywhere the level he was at two years ago. This i attribute to lack of confidence or match practice at Morton, or both. Jamie sucessfully kept us up with a poor team two years ago, this season with a better team he has looked non existant. He either fails to get himself involved in the game, or attempts to take on the other team single handed and fails miserably. You are all welcome to disagree, but the lack of wins for us and the lack of his name on the scoresheet or in the record books with assists tells the tale for itself.
RosscoTon
The last post pretty much explains Jamie Stevenson very very accurately.
Judas
QUOTE (waspees @ Sep 13 2008, 19:56) *
I havent missed a game Jamie has played in since his return, including todays 'performance' he is not anywhere the level he was at two years ago. This i attribute to lack of confidence or match practice at Morton, or both. Jamie sucessfully kept us up with a poor team two years ago, this season with a better team he has looked non existant. He either fails to get himself involved in the game, or attempts to take on the other team single handed and fails miserably. You are all welcome to disagree, but the lack of wins for us and the lack of his name on the scoresheet or in the record books with assists tells the tale for itself.


Given all that Jamie has done for Alloa I would find it incredibly difficult to criticise the guy. I've not seen much of Alloa this season, perhaps fortunately, but Jamie does strike me as the kind of player who revels in being the hero so there could be some truth in what you say. It would be a real shame if he doesn't fully recapture his old form because he was some player when on his game. He's still fairly young though so there's every chance he'll bounce back.

No great surprise that he had a shocker against Stirling, I don't think he's put in a single good performance against them, ever. huh.gif
StewartyMac
You shouldn't judge Stevenson on a bad performance against the Albion. He's always been shite against us.
MonTheRovers!!
Really, really surprised at some of these comments. I remember him scoring a brace against us a SP a few years and back and him being by far and away the best player in the division. I'll go look in the archives and see if i can fish it out.

My memory of this seems to be blighted somewhat. Anyway, here's what i found. I remember that goal well.

http://raithroversfc.com/cgi-bin/matchdetails.cgi?id=656
garymcc1874
You're welcome to keep him, btw. I doubt he'll play for us again.

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Magic Hat
QUOTE (garymcc1874 @ Sep 15 2008, 19:36) *
You're welcome to keep him, btw. I doubt he'll play for us again.

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I would take him back permanently in a minute despite his relatively uneventful start to the Season.

While he has not been the one man show that kept us in the Second Division a couple of Seasons back still think Jamie Stevenson is a quality player who will prove to be a worthwhile loan signing whether this is until January or is extended until May.

Just coming back from an injury sustained at East End Park so hopefully when fully fit will start to show why he is so highly regarded by Wasps Fans.

A hat trick on the 8th November would be nice although as previously mentioned fails to perform against Stirling Albion for some reason.

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QUOTE (MonTheRovers!! @ Sep 15 2008, 19:32) *
Really, really surprised at some of these comments. I remember him scoring a brace against us a SP a few years and back and him being by far and away the best player in the division. I'll go look in the archives and see if i can fish it out.

My memory of this seems to be blighted somewhat. Anyway, here's what i found. I remember that goal well.

http://raithroversfc.com/cgi-bin/matchdetails.cgi?id=656



'cgi/bin'
I take it this website is hosted on a Solaris server

God how sad am I


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waspees
QUOTE (Judas @ Sep 15 2008, 14:50) *
Given all that Jamie has done for Alloa I would find it incredibly difficult to criticise the guy. I've not seen much of Alloa this season, perhaps fortunately, but Jamie does strike me as the kind of player who revels in being the hero so there could be some truth in what you say. It would be a real shame if he doesn't fully recapture his old form because he was some player when on his game. He's still fairly young though so there's every chance he'll bounce back.

No great surprise that he had a shocker against Stirling, I don't think he's put in a single good performance against them, ever. huh.gif


As im sure i mentioned on both previous posts on this subject, its dissappointing that Jamie isnt currently living up to his past form. Im not criticising him, i just feel that he isnt doing as well as he used to, for a variety of reasons, which is basically what the original post was asking for opinions on. For the record i think Jamie is a quality player who should be playing at a much higer lever, but he isnt cutting it at the moment.
Oweny
I cannie believe some of these posts on this subject.
I recon Alan Maitland must really regret taking Jamie back as he has been a shadow of the player that left Alloa two years ago.
Jamie Stevenson was never ever effective in a strugling team even the first time with us. As the team has sruggled his term he has been posted mising once again. I recon he would have been a star when Morton were in division 2 winning most weeks but bet he was missing in action when they were toiling in the first division last season.
The best Alloa have played this tem was the second half against Dunfermline and the second half against Stranraer. Stevenson was not playing in these games. A complete waste of a Jersey at Stirling last week. Granted he has been injured also but I recon he should stick to the simple thing more often.
tryall
To me Jamie's problem is that he doesn't have anyone in the team yet who responds fast enough to his ideas. Its clear thathat he and Jinky can play well together but Jamie needs to get the ball more and have somebody moving that he can link up with.

The team isn't playing like a team yet and we won't see the best of Jamie till it does.
Waspie
QUOTE (tryall @ Sep 19 2008, 22:39) *
The team isn't playing like a team yet and we won't see the best of Jamie till it does.


Would agree 100%. Its quite ridiculous to be passing judgement at this stage with Jamie only having played a few games since his return (and having looked very good at times) and with the team as a whole having underachieved so far.

Im not convinced the manager knows where to best to play Jamie in the team at the moment and thats the biggest problem. Looking at the player's body language last week too he looked very frustrated with his lot but (like most of the Alloa players on the day) failed to channel that properly for the good of the team. If that can be addressed and if the manager can again find a role in which Jamie can thrive then he is well capable of being a standout again. We have some excellent players this season and when things finally click, and I believe it will happen, we will do well and the likes of Jamie will be to the fore.

Somewhat bemused by the suggestion that he was never effective in a struggling team given his form during the great escape season. Even before Maitland came in that year Stevenson was playing some great stuff, it just didnt do much good when the defence was conceding 4 or 5 goals every week.
Dunning1874
I wasn't really that disappointed when he went on loan, but having seen yet another display with no creativity from the midfield whatsoever, I'd have him back in a flash, although he always did hide when the going got tough for us.
bsd
Please take him back now. Absolutely rank yesterday ( as was the whole team) He is a waste of wages.
vikingTON
QUOTE (bsd @ Sep 21 2008, 13:04) *
Please take him back now. Absolutely rank yesterday ( as was the whole team) He is a waste of wages.


He'd fit in well with us then.
Magic Hat
Was a very poor team performance on Saturday and personally don't think Jamie Stevenson was anywhere near being the worst player on the park especially in the Second Half.
Agreed he has still to produce the goods this Season but there are other areas in the team that are as ineffective if not worse including our woeful defence and blunt strike force.
I can understand why Alloa Fans are frustrated but don't understand why Jamie has become a scapegoat considering his contribution when we avoided relegation through the Play Offs.
As for comments about him being "World Class" etc on Saturday no Alloa Fan has ever said anything like that but he is a good Second Division Player who hopefully when fit will contribute to our hopeful resurgence on the Park.
Quite why a section of our fans seem to want Internal Arguements among the support is beyond me.
Doubt he will ever play for Morton again but looking at the First Division Table that seems to be true of a lot of their players.
tryall
It seems a bit much to be blaming Jamie when he isn't getting the ball and our midfield can't hold the ball for much longer than about 10 seconds. We aren't puttinng passes together and are relying on the long ball which is being gobbled by defendrs who are always taller than our fairly small forwards. Until we can get the ball down and play a few passes, we won't be doing much in the league.

Good to see Bomber fighting, mostly successfully, for the ball and Steve McKeown look good though he seemed unable to find anyone ahead of him to pass the ball to. Hope Fraser is back some to bring stability to the defence
Dunning1874
QUOTE (tryall @ Sep 22 2008, 20:33) *
It seems a bit much to be blaming Jamie when he isn't getting the ball and our midfield can't hold the ball for much longer than about 10 seconds. We aren't puttinng passes together and are relying on the long ball which is being gobbled by defendrs who are always taller than our fairly small forwards. Until we can get the ball down and play a few passes, we won't be doing much in the league.


Sounds familiar. Sure he'll be used to it after being in a team that did the same all last season.
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