I was bemused when no official attendances were given for the first two rounds of last season's Scottish Cup. I truly hope that this has been remedied and that we will look more professional in the eyes of the world.

I was also absolutely stunned to hear Linlithgow Rose's explanation to why they would NOT be issuing a special match programme for their first ever appearance in the Scottish Cup.

I don't know about all the other entrants last season, but does anyone know if all home teams other than the above mentioned printed a programme for their big day.

I know the Crichton have plans to do so if they are drawn at home in the next round.

I understand that Linlithow are planning a programme at some point this season.

Gates were available last season for the Scottish Cup's early rounds but figures were impossible at some matches. For example, no record of admissions was done at St. Cuthbert Wanderers v Lok (the way we do it is to give a ticket to everyone coming in) and admission money was in the same tub as programmes. Saints had no idea at all how many were in the ground. That may have been the case elsewhere.

I have gates for most of last year's 1st and 2nd rounds, where applicable, if interested.

I think quite a few people on here would be interested, so it would be good if you could post them

Date Attendance HomeTeam HomeScore AwayTeam AwayScore
29/09/2007 383 Culter 7 Hawick Royal Albert 0
29/09/2007 113 Vale of Leithen 3 Gala Fairydean 1
29/09/2007 574 Newton Stewart 0 Linlithgow Rose 6
29/09/2007 0 Wigtown & Bladnoch 3 Burntisland Shipyard 5
29/09/2007 229 Glasgow University 1 Buckie Thistle 2
29/09/2007 0 Coldstream 0 Dalbeattie Star 4
29/09/2007 69 Golspie Sutherland 3 Preston Athletic 1
29/09/2007 270 Wick Academy 0 Deveronvale 5
29/09/2007 108 Rothes 1 Nairn County 4
29/09/2007 81 Lossiemouth 1 Whitehill Welfare 3
29/09/2007 383 Fraserburgh 1 Huntly 1
29/09/2007 117 Fort William 0 Spartans 6
29/09/2007 153 Clachnacuddin 2 Edinburgh City 2
29/09/2007 60 Brora Rangers 0 Cove Rangers 5
29/09/2007 500 St. Cuthbert Wanderers 2 Pollok 6
29/09/2007 0 Girvan 2 Forres Mechanics 0
29/09/2007 0 Civil Service Strollers 1 Selkirk 2
06/10/2007 0 Huntly 2 Fraserburgh 0
06/10/2007 126 Edinburgh City 1 Clachnacuddin 0
27/10/2007 382 Forfar Athletic 1 Dumbarton 1
27/10/2007 265 Albion Rovers 8 Burntisland Shipyard 0
27/10/2007 583 Arbroath 5 Elgin City 0
27/10/2007 243 Annan Athletic 2 Huntly 5
27/10/2007 770 Inverurie Loco Works 0 East Fife 2
27/10/2007 410 Girvan 1 Stranraer 2
27/10/2007 500 Culter 2 Vale of Leithen 1
27/10/2007 1600 Linlithgow Rose 4 Spartans 1
27/10/2007 157 Selkirk 0 Dalbeattie Star 2
27/10/2007 532 Buckie Thistle 4 Nairn County 1
27/10/2007 200 Whitehill Welfare 6 Golspie Sutherland 1
27/10/2007 188 Edinburgh City 1 East Stirlingshire 2
27/10/2007 317 Cove Rangers 3 Keith 0
27/10/2007 945 Montrose 2 Pollok 2
27/10/2007 300 Threave Rovers 1 Stenhousemuir 0
27/10/2007 350 Edinburgh University 3 Deveronvale 1
03/11/2007 1873 Pollok 0 Montrose 1
06/11/2007 310 Dumbarton 3 Forfar Athletic 0
24/11/2007 975 Culter 1 Huntly 3
24/11/2007 1519 Linlithgow Rose 1 Dalbeattie Star 0
24/11/2007 480 Cove Rangers 1 Edinburgh University 0
24/11/2007 1013 Airdrie United 1 Queen's Park 1
24/11/2007 425 Albion Rovers 1 East Stirlingshire 5
24/11/2007 2260 Partick Thistle 2 Ayr United 1
24/11/2007 1208 Ross County 4 Whitehill Welfare 0
24/11/2007 695 Peterhead 0 Queen of the South 5
24/11/2007 819 Livingston 4 Alloa Athletic 0
24/11/2007 1833 Morton 3 Buckie Thistle 2
24/11/2007 821 Clyde 2 Montrose 0
24/11/2007 326 Stranraer 0 Stirling Albion 6
24/11/2007 524 Dumbarton 2 Berwick Rangers 0
24/11/2007 595 Arbroath 0 Cowdenbeath 1
24/11/2007 629 Threave Rovers 0 Raith Rovers 5
24/11/2007 652 Brechin City 1 East Fife 1
05/12/2007 659 East Fife 1 Brechin City 2

12/01/2008 3062 Queen of the South 4 Linlithgow Rose 0
12/01/2008 27923 Celtic 3 Stirling Albion 0
12/01/2008 5798 Falkirk 2 Aberdeen 2
12/01/2008 13651 Hearts 2 Motherwell 2
12/01/2008 1023 Hamilton Academical 0 Berwick Rangers 0
12/01/2008 2848 Morton 2 Gretna 2
12/01/2008 2814 St. Mirren 3 Dumbarton 0
12/01/2008 12578 Hibernian 3 Inverness CT 0
15/01/2008 830 Livingston 2 Cowdenbeath 0
15/01/2008 2113 St. Johnstone 3 Raith Rovers 1
15/01/2008 2500 Huntly 1 Dundee 3
16/01/2008 1550 Clyde 0 Dundee United 1

22/01/2008 2434 Partick Thistle 2 Dunfermline Athletic 1
22/01/2008 8547 Aberdeen 3 Falkirk 1
22/01/2008 8300 Motherwell 1 Hearts 0
23/01/2008 34024 Rangers 6 East Stirlingshire 0
23/01/2008 1200 Cove Rangers 2 Ross County 4
28/01/2008 3258 Airdrie United 0 Kilmarnock 2
28/01/2008 696 Brechin City 2 Hamilton Academical 1
28/01/2008 1167 Gretna 0 Morton 3
02/02/2008 2110 Livingston 0 Partick Thistle 0
02/02/2008 3506 Morton 0 Queen of the South 2
02/02/2008 3945 St. Mirren 0 Dundee United 0
02/02/2008 6441 Aberdeen 1 Hamilton Academical 0
02/02/2008 6491 Kilmarnock 1 Celtic 5
03/02/2008 11513 Hibernian 0 Rangers 0
11/02/2008 5733 Motherwell 1 Dundee 2
12/02/2008 2554 Partick Thistle 1 Livingston 1
12/02/2008 2385 Ross County 0 St. Johnstone 1
13/02/2008 3723 Dundee United 0 St. Mirren 1

08/03/2008 6094 St. Johnstone 1 St. Mirren 1
08/03/2008 6278 Queen of the South 2 Dundee 0
09/03/2008 10909 Aberdeen 1 Celtic 1
09/03/2008 33837 Rangers 1 Hibernian 0
18/03/2008 4596 St. Mirren 1 St. Johnstone 3
18/03/2008 33506 Celtic 0 Aberdeen 1
19/03/2008 36724 Rangers 1 Partick Thistle 1

12/04/2008 24008 Queen of the South 4 Aberdeen 3
20/04/2008 26180 St. Johnstone 1 Rangers 1

24/05/2008 48821 Queen of the South 2 Rangers 3

Official attendances are the nuumber of people that would need to be evacuated from the ground in the case of an emergency and should include
Referee and Assistants, Both teams substitutes and backroom staff, Medics, press , complimentaries, ball boys,committee, camera men etc etc . These numbers will add up to excess of 120 people

Official attendances are generally classed as the paying public. I have to say I've never ever heard of players being counted in an official attendance. Some clubs include ALL season ticket holders in their figures even if they're not there - you can't evacuate someone that's in front of the telly watching Jeff Stelling.

I have to agree with Cmontheloknow here - for me, official attendances should be those people who came to the game in order to spectate. This would therefore exclude the two teams, the match officials, and any stewards/police/turnstile operators etc. It would include anyone who paid or utilised a season ticket to get in, complimentary tickets, directors box, and any press or media.

Regarding 'professional-ish-ness' of the early rounds: I was disappointed last season, particularly at the lack of attendances (and goalscorers on live score updates...). Hope it's bit better this time.

The media ignored it in places. Great coverage of the Juniors early on but that was it. I was so disappointed that the Sky Sports Yearbook failed to cover the 1st and even more so the 2nd round ties.

I assume getting a more professional level of coverage has to be dictated by the SFA. For starters, they can DEMAND all clubs properly track how many people are in the ground by issuing two types of ticket stub in receipt of adult and concession payment. Clubs that do not do this should forfeit 25% of their prize money. I'd go so far as to split that forfeit between the visitors and the association.

Not exactly scientific but i happened to be in Edinburgh at the time and so took in the Civil Service v Selkirk 1st round tie and would estimate that the crowd was no more than 80.

Is there a minimum charge for cup ties this year - £5 for 1st round last year was it not?

Newton Stewart are doing one again this year just like last season.....There are still some programmes available from Linlithgow Rose match if anyone wants to contact me if they require one as a keep sake ---£2 plus postage.

We had programmes for both the Stenhousemuir game and the Raith Rovers game, but you would expect that againts SFL clubs. Like the idea of handing a ticket to every entrant to measure attendance, Threave are the same as Saints when it comes to letting folk in

Threave attendence given at the match v Raith was a total joke. Even the public address announcer was embarrased reading it out. 613 it was more like 1000.

Surely not

It will be interesteing to see if Banks O'Dee and Lochee issue programmes today.

I counted about 90 folk at Golspie ,though a lot of these were kids and comm members paying attendance would be about 45, there were programmes on sale.

Well they did and were not very good value for money, Banks O'Dee in particular.

Montrose add in the cars that drive by the stadium during the match in their attendance figure

Newton Stewart had 33 at their game.