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Tonsilitis
We play well at Palmerston, Queens play well at Cappielow - that seems to have been the pattern since we came back up to the first div.

On Sunday we had pretty successfully plugged the holes at the back from the Airdrie debacle (please, please, give us them at Cappielow in the next round because we have a few scores to settle!!) and it was one of these games where Queens had quite a lot of possession but could have played all night and not scored. They threw a lot of high balls into the box for Kean and Dobbie - both decent players but neither renowned for their heading ability. It might be different on Saturday if O'Connor is back.

We have signed a decent young left footed left back - thats pretty novel at Cappielow - and with Alex Walker at Right back, all of a sudden we have a pretty decent back four. Midfield is still not the finished article but Alan Jenkins is nearly fully match fit and when he came on for the last half hour on Sunday he dominated the midfield. Plus, for all they have been hot and cold, we've scored a few from midfield this season.

Wake is scoring and so is Russell so there is a bit of a threat up front.

All in all, I am hoping for our first league victory but not all that confident. 2-1 Morton will see me home happy!
veteran
I don't think we can play that badly again on Saturday.
If I was a betting man I'd go for a Queens win.
zutons
O'conner out due to injury.
Toby Fair
QUOTE (veteran @ Sep 8 2008, 20:33) *
I don't think we can play that badly again on Saturday.
If I was a betting man I'd go for a Queens win.



Hope you're right, but we kind of did that already on Sunday, having been equally bad against Ross County midweek.
Mr.Blue
head says 3-1 queens, heart says 2-0 ton. hopefully we bring our strong cup form into the league and start climbing up the table
The Naitch
Really don't know how to call this one. But I will....Morton 2-1 QOS. smile.gif
HardingsHamstring
A score draw, I think.
tigerton
From what i seen yesterday, i honestly think we can do it again on Saturday, but it'll be a nervy one: 2-1 ton biggrin.gif another from McGuffie aswell biggrin.gif
GORDON CHISOLM
Weatherson and Dobbie to score for Queens and Wake to score for Morton.
2-1 to Queens



19QOS19
QUOTE (GORDON CHISOLM @ Sep 8 2008, 21:25) *
Weatherson and Dobbie to score for Queens and Wake to score for Morton.
2-1 to Queens


Didn't he sign for Morton? huh.gif

We surely can't have 3 bad games in a row? If Chis gets them sorted I'll say 2-0 QoS if not 2-0 Morton.
GORDON CHISOLM
sorry Davie Weatherston to score for queens
19QOS19
QUOTE (GORDON CHISOLM @ Sep 8 2008, 21:53) *
sorry Davie Weatherston to score for queens



That's better! tongue.gif
gogs
QUOTE (zutons @ Sep 8 2008, 20:36) *
O'conner out due to injury.


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Tonsilitis
I thought Queens best players on Sunday were some of the old hands. I was not that impressed by the new boys - Kean, Weatherston, etc. Parratt appeared to go missing for our goals which both came from his area.

I also thought some of the subs a bit strange. McFarlane was one of the better players but he got hooked and at the same time roughly Morton brought on Jenkins. Whether it was Queens sub or Jenkins or a bit of both, after that Morton looked far more comfortable and largely in charge of midfield.

If Harding and Shimmin can look after Kean/O'Connor/Dobbie - whatever front two are on - as well as they did on Sunday, Queens will find goals hard to come by.

On the other hand, we are playing at Cappielow and everyone scores at Cappielow!! (well except us quite alot of the time!!)
QosLoyal
i am still expecting a comfortable 6-0 victory
HardingsHamstring
QUOTE (QosLoyal @ Sep 9 2008, 01:23) *
i am still expecting a comfortable 6-0 victory

Against Morton or just somewhere down the line?
QosLoyal
QUOTE (HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2008, 01:26) *
Against Morton or just somewhere down the line?


good question. either will do me!
gmfc
QUOTE (QosLoyal @ Sep 9 2008, 01:23) *
i am still expecting a comfortable 6-0 victory


I am not sure Morton will score that many.
John Barleycorn
QUOTE (QosLoyal @ Sep 9 2008, 01:23) *
i am still expecting a comfortable 6-0 victory



QUOTE (gmfc @ Sep 9 2008, 08:02) *
I am not sure Morton will score that many.


OK then mor*on -1 gays of the south 6 tongue.gif
dodgydi
i am hoping that we can at least get a draw. if we play as poor as we have in recent matches i cannot see us coming away with anything.
start playing a bit better, passing the ball around and using the midfield, we may just squeek a win 2-1.
play as we have in past few games 2-0 morton.
Alibi
Hard game to call. Having shown that they can grind out a win while playing badly against Ross County (and getting worse as the game went on until that well-taken late goal), Queens were beaten by a Morton team not really firing on all cylinders for most of the game. With home advantage and probably a similar line-up, Morton should be able to win, but we are talking about Morton here. Much may depend on whether or not O'Connor is playing because without him Dobbie seems a bit lost. I reckon Queens are title contenders this season if injuries don't hamper them too much.

However, logic says to me this one could end 1-1 or 2-2, although I think Morton are going to improve now that Jenkins is nearly fully fit. He is what has been missing and should make Morton much more than the sum of the parts. I see a steady climb up the league, hampered by not having a top notch out and out striker - although Weatherson may solve that now he is back to being a forward. I emphasize may.
Flash
Even with no injuries and in our best form, I would be reluctant to predict a victory. Apart from anything else, our good run at Cappielow is bound to end sooner or later.
If we play like we did for 75 minutes on Sunday, defeat is assured. I think we are in a false position in the league because we were quite lucky against Ross County and Thistle (apart from the opening 10 minutes). Over the piece, both deserved a draw. And I'm still not convinced about the centre of our defence, despite the changes.
palmy_cammy
QUOTE (Tonsilitis @ Sep 8 2008, 23:27) *
I also thought some of the subs a bit strange. McFarlane was one of the better players but he got hooked and at the same time roughly Morton brought on Jenkins. Whether it was Queens sub or Jenkins or a bit of both, after that Morton looked far more comfortable and largely in charge of midfield.

Our midfield simply disappears when we take Macfarlane off, yet Chisholm seems to do it without fail during every match. The fact he replaces him with Scott Robertson simply adds insult to injury.
port-ton
3-1 Morton, Brian Wake hat-trick within the first 18 minutes of the game. Queens pull one back just before half time and then miss a penalty just after the hour mark. Scott Robertson sent off on 84 minutes for a crazy lunge at Ryan Mcguffie.
veteran
QUOTE (port-ton @ Sep 9 2008, 16:29) *
3-1 Morton, Brian Wake hat-trick within the first 18 minutes of the game. Queens pull one back just before half time and then miss a penalty just after the hour mark. Scott Robertson sent off on 84 minutes for a crazy lunge at Ryan Mcguffie.

Can you get sent off for a lunge if you miss by yards?
19QOS19
QUOTE (veteran @ Sep 9 2008, 16:39) *
Can you get sent off for a lunge if you miss by yards?



laugh.gif . We can all dream Veteran!
cornbeef
A draw could well be on the cards, but I feel we can sneak a win. I've a lot of respect for Sean O'connor as a striker and feel that his absence could tilt the balance in our favour. We need the points more than Queens anyway rolleyes.gif


19QOS19
QUOTE (cornbeef @ Sep 9 2008, 17:56) *
A draw could well be on the cards, but I feel we can sneak a win. I've a lot of respect for Sean O'connor as a striker and feel that his absence could tilt the balance in our favour. We need the points more than Queens anyway rolleyes.gif


No you don't! unsure.gif
Steak & Barley
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Sep 9 2008, 19:00) *
No you don't! unsure.gif


I think you'll find we do - so stay telt tongue.gif

We're desperate to kick start the season and hopefully the gods will smile on us. The encouraging performance on Sunday was good but I'd rather have 3 league points.
19QOS19
QUOTE (Steak & Barley @ Sep 9 2008, 19:11) *
I think you'll find we do - so stay telt tongue.gif

We're desperate to kick start the season and hopefully the gods will smile on us. The encouraging performance on Sunday was good but I'd rather have 3 league points.


It's one of the most stupid sayings ever in football! The only time a team needs 3 points more than another is if it's the last game of the season and one team is 2 points away from safety and the other is sitting mid-table 4 points away from the team above 4 points away from th team below. Just because we are second and you are bottom doesn't mean you need them more! We need them just as much as Morton to maintain a promotion challenge! wink.gif
Steak & Barley
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Sep 9 2008, 19:23) *
It's one of the most stupid sayings ever in football! The only time a team needs 3 points more than another is if it's the last game of the season and one team is 2 points away from safety and the other is sitting mid-table 4 points away from the team above 4 points away from th team below. Just because we are second and you are bottom doesn't mean you need them more! We need them just as much as Morton to maintain a promotion challenge! wink.gif


OK I reserve the right to be stupider than you - I hope you're happy now smile.gif
Toby
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Sep 9 2008, 19:23) *
It's one of the most stupid sayings ever in football! The only time a team needs 3 points more than another is if it's the last game of the season and one team is 2 points away from safety and the other is sitting mid-table 4 points away from the team above 4 points away from th team below. Just because we are second and you are bottom doesn't mean you need them more! We need them just as much as Morton to maintain a promotion challenge! wink.gif


Bit silly to talk about desperation for points at this stage of the season, but I'd be inclined to suggest that relegation to the Second Division would be infinitely more disasterous for us than failure to win promotion would be for Queens'.
19QOS19
QUOTE (Toby @ Sep 9 2008, 21:05) *
Bit silly to talk about desperation for points at this stage of the season, but I'd be inclined to suggest that relegation to the Second Division would be infinitely more disasterous for us than failure to win promotion would be for Queens'.



My point is that you don't need the points more than us. You may be in relegation but it's not like there are only 3 games left.
HardingsHamstring
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Sep 9 2008, 22:24) *
My point is that you don't need the points more than us. You may be in relegation but it's not like there are only 3 games left.

Look, Queens are a diddy team who will never scale the heights and Morton are the potential giants. We simply cannot be relegated. Therefore we need the points more. Goodnight.
AyrshireTon
We could be Universe Champions and still be capable of churning out a dire 0-1 defeat at home to QoS.
No doubt we will chuck the kitchen sink and everything at them, but I reckon the points are going south. dry.gif
19QOS19
QUOTE (HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2008, 22:28) *
Look, Queens are a diddy team who will never scale the heights and Morton are the potential giants. We simply cannot be relegated. Therefore we need the points more. Goodnight.


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Tonsilitis
QUOTE (HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2008, 22:28) *
Look, Queens are a diddy team who will never scale the heights and Morton are the potential giants. We simply cannot be relegated. Therefore we need the points more. Goodnight.

Absolutely! They've no chance of getting to a cup final or into Europe!

Morton on the other hand are the 1922 Cup winners and 1948 finalists. Oh and we did get to the league cup final in 1963.

So there!
port-ton
QUOTE (Tonsilitis @ Sep 9 2008, 23:48) *
Absolutely! They've no chance of getting to a cup final or into Europe!

Morton on the other hand are the 1922 Cup winners and 1948 finalists. Oh and we did get to the league cup final in 1963.

So there!


Second division champions aswell in recent years! we're the most recent champions in this league.

Rossy County don't count as you have to be in the league a full year before you count as a real team.
BluebirdTon
A league win at last - I predict anyway.

2-0 to the Ton.
cornbeef
QUOTE (BluebirdTon @ Sep 10 2008, 17:31) *
A league win at last - I predict anyway.

2-0 to the Ton.



I hope yer right................................................ we need the clean sheet and the goals more than Queens.


Distant Doonhamer
QUOTE (HardingsHamstring @ Sep 9 2008, 22:28) *
Look, Queens are a diddy team who will never scale the heights and Morton are the potential giants. We simply cannot be relegated. Therefore we need the points more. Goodnight.

Excellent laugh.gif
Tonsilitis
QUOTE (Distant Doonhamer @ Sep 10 2008, 18:15) *
Excellent laugh.gif


Would have been if only it had said 'Goodnight and f*ck off!'

These Southerners just have no grasp of grammar!!
vikingTON
We don't beat Queens at Cappielow. We don't win league games.
The fates conspire against us.
Dream Oak Tree
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Sep 9 2008, 19:23) *
It's one of the most stupid sayings ever in football! The only time a team needs 3 points more than another is if it's the last game of the season and one team is 2 points away from safety and the other is sitting mid-table 4 points away from the team above 4 points away from th team below. Just because we are second and you are bottom doesn't mean you need them more! We need them just as much as Morton to maintain a promotion challenge! wink.gif


I have to say I find that statement astounding, Morton are struggling at the bottom of the league and desperate for our first win to kick start our season. Queens are looking solid and hoping to mount a title challenge.

Maybe you'd like to rethink, maybe not, I just see no logic whatsoever in your statement.
19QOS19
QUOTE (Dream Oak Tree @ Sep 10 2008, 22:13) *
I have to say I find that statement astounding, Morton are struggling at the bottom of the league and desperate for our first win to kick start our season. Queens are looking solid and hoping to mount a title challenge.

Maybe you'd like to rethink, maybe not, I just see no logic whatsoever in your statement.


I just don't see how you can justify Morton needing the points more than us 5 games in!? Just because you are currently bottom doesn't mean you need them anymore than us! We are looking towards promotion (it seems) and you are looking to finish mid-table. We are currently second you are tenth. At present none of the clubs are reaching their targets therefore they both need the points as much as one another.
QosLoyal
nobody needs the points more than one another we are only 5 games into the goddam season.

port-ton
QUOTE (QosLoyal @ Sep 11 2008, 02:54) *
nobody needs the points more than one another we are only 5 games into the goddam season.


we avoided the playoffs by one goal last season. We're Morton, we don't do anything simple so therefor come the end of the season we'll have needed these points more.

this is definetely the first time i've seen two teams before a game argue who needs the points more, what pish banter Morton and QOS fans have with each other.
19QOS19
QUOTE (port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 03:07) *
we avoided the playoffs by one goal last season. We're Morton, we don't do anything simple so therefor come the end of the season we'll have needed these points more.

this is definetely the first time i've seen two teams before a game argue who needs the points more, what pish banter Morton and QOS fans have with each other.



No one says you have to join in dry.gif
Flash
QUOTE (port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 03:07) *
we avoided the playoffs by one goal last season. We're Morton, we don't do anything simple so therefor come the end of the season we'll have needed these points more.

this is definetely the first time i've seen two teams before a game argue who needs the points more, what pish banter Morton and QOS fans have with each other.


Ok, here goes, Morton don't need the points more than us because an extra three points won't make any difference - they are going to finish bottom anyway and be relegated to the Second Division, where they will spend one season before being relocated to their natural home in the Third.
Oh, and Morton fans are all junkies who live in rat infested slums.
And while I'm on, Warren Hawke was useless.
Is that better? rolleyes.gif
Ross
QUOTE (port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 03:07) *
this is definetely the first time i've seen two teams before a game argue who needs the points more, what pish banter Morton and 19QOS19 fans have with each other.


Fixed it for you tongue.gif
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