Good to see that Stranraer are keeping most players could be all after the problems .Is it a case of loyalty or no other clubs interested though.Mckinstray and Tade are decent from what i hear.
Easy Blue
Aug 28 2008, 13:17
McKinstry is never fit these days though, can hardly last half an hour on the pitch. Few too many pies over the summer me thinks.
GoRdY_b
Aug 28 2008, 17:15
QUOTE (Doink @ Aug 28 2008, 13:45)

Good to see that Stranraer are keeping most players could be all after the problems .Is it a case of loyalty or no other clubs interested though.Mckinstray and Tade are decent from what i hear.
Aye! If McCrapstry finds another senior club I'd be amazed, he never was fit, can't run, can't tackle, can't shoot, apart from that he's decent!
Ayrgirl
Aug 28 2008, 18:12
QUOTE (GoRdY_b @ Aug 28 2008, 18:15)

Aye! If McCrapstry finds another senior club I'd be amazed, he never was fit, can't run, can't tackle, can't shoot, apart from that he's decent!
You forgot - can't put in a decent cross.
venga1
Aug 28 2008, 18:24
QUOTE (Doink @ Aug 28 2008, 13:45)

Good to see that Stranraer are keeping most players could be all after the problems .Is it a case of loyalty or no other clubs interested though.Mckinstray and Tade are decent from what i hear.
McKinstry's decent?!?!
Cardinal Richelieu
Aug 28 2008, 19:03
I certainly hope Tade doesn't get lured away. From what I've seen of him, he's a class act.
Big_Andy
Aug 28 2008, 19:29
QUOTE (Cardinal Richelieu @ Aug 28 2008, 20:03)

I certainly hope Tade doesn't get lured away. From what I've seen of him, he's a class act.
I hear East Fife are interested. He will supposedly be a good foil for Fotheringham............
marf-1870
Aug 28 2008, 20:16
McKinstrey had an ok season last season. Think he's let the team down this year with the shape he's got into over the summer. If he had singed a contract and knew he would be playing for us this season why did he let himself go so much over the summer if he can't get back in shape.
Tade gives one bit of magic then messes up with the next. Heard a rumour yesterday that Killie are looking at him don't think he;s quite of that standard though.
Shibuya
Aug 28 2008, 21:28
Tade was total nonsense with Forfar - has he improved?!
JimLichtie
Aug 29 2008, 08:41
QUOTE (Shibuya @ Aug 28 2008, 22:28)

Tade was total nonsense with Forfar - has he improved?!
He's Stranraer's best player...... which is bit like saying Methill has better amenities than Kosovo.
lzreid
Aug 29 2008, 09:21
QUOTE (Cardinal Richelieu @ Aug 28 2008, 20:03)

I certainly hope Tade doesn't get lured away. From what I've seen of him, he's a class act.
I've always liked Tade. Always believed him to be a solid, honest player.
The American
Aug 29 2008, 10:53
venga1
Aug 29 2008, 10:54
If all players are available on a free Tade would be the one to snap up.
Not sure any of the others would make a huge difference to a 2nd Division team while their wages may well be too high for 3rd Division teams to match.
lzreid
Aug 29 2008, 10:58
QUOTE (The American @ Aug 29 2008, 11:53)

Thank you.
glasgow loon
Aug 29 2008, 11:23
Tade was the only good thing shaw did when he was manager by signing him unfortunatly he was freed along with the other west coast players when moffat took over.
If tade was to go full time he might well get more consistant, look at how gomis is playing for dundee utd.
QUOTE (The American @ Aug 29 2008, 11:53)

The irony of an East Fife fan laughing at being honest is probably beyond you but remind me how your club is financed.
boardroomshuffler
Aug 29 2008, 13:02
Well run club east fife,no debts .
EdinburghBlue
Aug 30 2008, 19:02
QUOTE (Doink @ Aug 28 2008, 13:45)

[snip] and Tade are decent from what i hear.
After today's display against Alloa it would be extraordinary if some other club weren't willing to take on Tade on a free.
danlichtie
Aug 30 2008, 19:18
I'd love Tade, he's exactly the sort of striker we are desperate for in Bryan Scott's absence.
1320Lichtie
Aug 30 2008, 19:35
Aye maybe Arbroath should put a wee 5k bid in for him as Stranraer are desperate for the money , hed be a good Striker or Winger or second striker
Would love Tade at Arbroath,just what we need when Scott is injured or banned.Tade was the only player that came onto the Arbroath bus after we won the play-off to shake hands with all the Arbroath players.
lichtie36nilhello
Aug 31 2008, 17:24
QUOTE (WHM @ Aug 31 2008, 10:34)

Would love Tade at Arbroath,just what we need when Scott is injured or banned.Tade was the only player that came onto the Arbroath bus after we won the play-off to shake hands with all the Arbroath players.
FFS AFC lets sign the guy, he is free to go..........what r we waiting on? Oh right we have signed a striker..........aye the twin o Andy Reilly but no as guid!

By the name of Steve Weir

But he is a direct replacement for Kenny Wright

Aye but we MAY be getting a loan signing.............that may turn into an emergency loan signing!
Back to the start FFS sign Tade.........a smooth operator! Or was that Sade........
Xbass Threepwood
Aug 31 2008, 17:29
I agree with the others. If he is for sale, Tade would be an excellent signing for us!
QUOTE (1320Lichtie @ Aug 30 2008, 20:35)

Aye maybe Arbroath should put a wee 5k bid in for him as Stranraer are desperate for the money , hed be a good Striker or Winger or second striker
Haha, have you been playing FM my friend? Arbroath got that amount of money kicking about aye? You could probably get the whole of the Stranraer squad for less than 5k. No disrespect 'raer fans. Most teams would rip your hand off for 5k for any player, apart from a few exceptions.
I would take him at Raith, but McGlynn would come out and say that we wouldn't be able to afford him!!
If Stranraer sell Tade then they are utterly fooked. Would be a good buy for any club at this level.
roland sausage
Aug 31 2008, 17:42
I think tade will end up with a 1st division club. I would have him at the rovers, he would be good playing just behind the strikers.
BOOB Stranraer Loyal!!!!!!!
Aug 31 2008, 19:34
Also thought Andy Gibson and Possibly Martin McBride could of been snapped up by other clubs on recent form.
tryall
Aug 31 2008, 20:52
Until the sending off when we got a bit of belief in ourselves, Tade was the difference between the teams. A quality player.
blue_1870
Aug 31 2008, 20:58
QUOTE (BOOB Stranraer Loyal!!& @ Aug 31 2008, 20:34)

Also thought Andy Gibson and Possibly Martin McBride could of been snapped up by other clubs on recent form.
Gibson hasn't looked anywhere near as good this season as he was last. He looks to have lost a bit of confidence. McBride's looked decent but to be honest there's only Tade and perhaps John Kane and Michael Mullen who would do a job for a second division team. We have plenty of competent players but we've signed them mostly from 3rd division sides and that's their level in my opinion.
The good thing is that the players seem to want to play for the club. This season is now pretty much a write-off and while I really do hope we can stick together and possibly stay up, my head says we'll be relegated and will lose our best players.
If we can get any sort of fee for Tade we should take it, we'd be daft not to. He's our stand-out player and a genuinely nice guy and i'd be gutted to see him go but these things happen. We'll find a new hero - we always do. With the squad stretched as thin as it is already we'll need to use reserve players sooner rather than later, also with the rate we're getting players sent-off at the minute suspensions will mean they'll need to play. Surely its for the long-term benefit of the club to give our reserves a bit of experience of playing in division 2 as they are the players who realistically will have the jerseys over the next few years.
I feel a bit like i did when we last got promoted to the 1st division. I knew we'd prob go down and we'd lost our top players like Frazer Wright and Davie Graham, even big Jenks. This time its much more serious though as the future of our club is at stake. I'll admit I was openly delighted when Gretna went bust, and not just for the obvious reason of us getting promoted, but I remember at the time feeling a bit sorry for the real Gretna fans and couldn't really imagine what it'd be like to see your team go to the wall. Well we're going through that now and its f*****g s***e, the worst feeling ever.
Xbass Threepwood
Aug 31 2008, 21:57
QUOTE (blue_1870 @ Aug 31 2008, 21:58)

If we can get any sort of fee for Tade we should take it, we'd be daft not to. He's our stand-out player and a genuinely nice guy
Surprise East Fife signing? After all, theyre the ones with money.
Duracell Bunny
Aug 31 2008, 22:08
QUOTE (The Gray Ghost @ Aug 31 2008, 22:57)

Surprise East Fife signing? After all, theyre the ones with money.
Yes I can just see Tade & Fozzy playing together!!!
QC Casual
Sep 4 2008, 15:57
Queens and Partick were looking at Tade in the summer but he signed a new deal with Stranraer.
marf-1870
Sep 4 2008, 17:48
QUOTE (QC Casual @ Sep 4 2008, 15:57)

Queens and Partick were looking at Tade in the summer but he signed a new deal with Stranraer.
Don't know what this talk about a fee is for the players are allowed to go for free to cut the wage bill.
Although it's going to happen it will be sad to see the big man go, he's a true gent and realy somes to love it at Stranraer.
Lichtielegend
Sep 4 2008, 18:13
Tade + Scott would be a very nice front pairing.
lichtie36nilhello
Sep 4 2008, 18:41
QUOTE (Lichtielegend @ Sep 4 2008, 19:13)

Tade + Scott would be a very nice front pairing.
FFS getting Scott fit would be a start!
The American
Sep 4 2008, 21:32
QUOTE (drs @ Aug 29 2008, 12:43)

The irony of an East Fife fan laughing at being honest is probably beyond you but remind me how your club is financed.
Green isnt a good colour for you
Mel Hutchwright
Sep 4 2008, 22:54
QUOTE (Lichtielegend @ Sep 4 2008, 19:13)

Tade + Scott would be a very nice front pairing.
We can but dream.
AUFC 1910
Sep 4 2008, 23:24
So, what kind of team are we likely to see when we come down next Saturday? Think it will be a one sided affair?
Sanny's army
Sep 5 2008, 13:21
QUOTE (AUFC 1910 @ Sep 4 2008, 23:24)

So, what kind of team are we likely to see when we come down next Saturday? Think it will be a one sided affair?
No players left us, we even rejected a bid for Tade. OK, he wants to stay but the club says it literally has no cash so for 3k from Brechin we should have been driving him to the north-east ourselves and throwing in a set of hedge trimmers for him as a sweetener.
The Titanic has now set sail, the Inland Revenue iceberg could sink us before we can dock safely in January.
EdinburghBlue
Sep 5 2008, 13:28
QUOTE (AUFC 1910 @ Sep 5 2008, 00:24)

Think it will be a one sided affair?
No! Given your current league position I would expect you to make a fight of it
shizzlemanizzle
Sep 5 2008, 13:33
QUOTE (EdinburghBlue @ Sep 5 2008, 14:28)

No! Given your current league position I would expect you to make a fight of it

Ouch!
Jimmy MCcabe
Sep 5 2008, 15:41
QUOTE (Sanny's army @ Sep 5 2008, 14:21)

No players left us, we even rejected a bid for Tade. OK, he wants to stay but the club says it literally has no cash so for 3k from Brechin we should have been driving him to the north-east ourselves and throwing in a set of hedge trimmers for him as a sweetener.
The Titanic has now set sail, the Inland Revenue iceberg could sink us before we can dock safely in January.
Firstly I in no way disagree with your comment's regarding the fee, we were in no position to knock back anyone wishing to take our players fee or not but he did say he did not want to leave,he does not drive which I think would have also caused him problems. We have to hope that Morton are still struggling and need a creative goalscorer come xmas.
tuckersloan
Sep 5 2008, 18:43
Tade is a decent player and would have been a loss on the park. He is worth more than £3,000 and if sold Brechin would have been getting a bargain by capitalising on our current predicament. Despite all this I can't believe many Stranraer fans are viewing the bid being turned down as a piece of good news. I think that is a bit short sighted - to be honest and I couldn't give a monkeys if the player enjoys playing for the club blah blah blah.
Personally I would rather the club took the decisions that will allow the club to still be around in a few years when the current crop of players won't really be that bothered about the plight of our club. They will find somewhere else to play - we can't get our club back so easily though.
£3,000 could have helped the cash flow situation and knocked a fair bit of the wage bill at the same time. The wage bill is clearly very crucial here. I noticed one of the posters on the official site was talking about how we could still sell him in the January transfer window. Thats all very well but I think you need to remember a couple of things.
1/ We will need to pay him his wage and bonuses up until that point. My GUESS would be that in the next 4 months he will probably rake in about £6000 (say £1200 a month plus bonuses and expenses). So in effect we are losing £9,000 - not £3,000. Obviously my figures could be well off the mark (as one of our better players it could even be more) but the point remains the same.
2/ Whats to say we will still be around in January
3/ He will have less time left on his contract in January and we would find it even harder to get a fee which matches his true valuation.
Clearly this ain't ideal and having to sell one of your best players for a fairly low amount ain't what anyone would want. However due to the incompetence which has now become apparent I don't think we have any choice but to grin and bear it. Survival is all that matters now and there is no point dwelling in the past.
Cliche Guevara
Sep 5 2008, 19:03
QUOTE
Firstly I in no way disagree with your comment's regarding the fee, we were in no position to knock back anyone wishing to take our players fee or not but he did say he did not want to leave,he does not drive which I think would have also caused him problems. We have to hope that Morton are still struggling and need a creative goalscorer come xmas.
I don't know Stranraer's finances, but is the problem not maybe more to do with the level of debt than weekly losses? It coul be argued that taking the £3k would be more of a short-term view. If the £3k (or £9k if you want to look at the overall cost of retaining the player) isn't going to actually change the weekly position, is there any sense in unnecessarily depleting your squad. You still have to try your best to remain competitve.
I know it's not easy to simply shed players under conract, but Stranraer don't seem to have attempted to dramatically reduce the wage bill, or offload players. Perhaps the immediate future isn't as bleak as some might think (or is as bad but the £9k saving doesn't materially help significantly).
Of course, the player has to agree to sign for another club also.
Either way I hope our support can help to swell the coffers next week, and I don't think three points is too much to ask for in return.
Good luck anyway!
loyal-blue
Sep 5 2008, 20:16
QUOTE (AUFC 1910 @ Sep 5 2008, 00:24)

So, what kind of team are we likely to see when we come down next Saturday? Think it will be a one sided affair?
Hopefully not, if we play like we did against Alloa last half hour could be 5, 6 nil!
As has been said though all the fans will enjoy it and it will raise a lot of money for the cause!
Cliche Guevara
Sep 5 2008, 20:24
Although I remember the famous New Year 'derby' where the turnstiles ran out of change, or something, and admission bizarrely became on a donation basis. They just asked you to drop money in a bucket and let you in. I felt a bit guilty so paid £2.
I know of others that paid around 6p to get in. That has to be one of the strangest consumer experiences at a football match ever!
loyal-blue
Sep 5 2008, 20:29
the gub
Sep 5 2008, 20:49
QUOTE (Cliche Guevara @ Sep 5 2008, 21:24)

Although I remember the famous New Year 'derby' where the turnstiles ran out of change, or something, and admission bizarrely became on a donation basis. They just asked you to drop money in a bucket and let you in. I felt a bit guilty so paid £2.
I know of others that paid around 6p to get in. That has to be one of the strangest consumer experiences at a football match ever!
Hardly surprising we're in the sh*t is it.We are also distributing tickets to primary schools in South Ayrshire to allow them free entry with a paying adult,hopefully Stranraer fans,but I think we'll even let Ayr kids in for free as long as the adult pays.................not 6p though.
AUFC 1910
Sep 5 2008, 20:52
In all honesty, make sure you guys get plenty of pies in!!! Some money to be made after the wee run down the road!
We took 500 up to Stenny for the Easy Stirling game, and I think we might take the same again, if not, then not too far off it!
Cliche Guevara
Sep 5 2008, 20:58
I think it was just under 400 to Stirling, so I would expect 500 next week at least. Given the lay-off, the fact we're still top (not joint

) and the fact that this a traditional travelling game there should be a good away support.
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