Full Version: Nordsjaelland V Queen Of The South
1-0 Queens!
Cracking goal.
beauty
Come on Queens!
If Queens win are they in the group stages?
QUOTE (PTFC27 @ Aug 26 2008, 18:13) 
If Queens win are they in the group stages?
They go in to the first round proper I believe. Then if they win over two legs in that they go in to the group stages.
look like the better team as well, big morten weighorst looks like a worried man!
Only saw the goal once. Was the keeper not at fault? looked like he moved early but moved the wrong way and couldn't get back across?
This is looking like a decent game.
Just turned on 1-0 
QUOTE (DJP @ Aug 26 2008, 18:45)
Just turned on 1-0
Arousal eh?
Love you.
Queens are playing excellent as a unit, could do with firing Dobbie on as there are a few tired legs out there. It's been good to watch them as they have been in their faces all game and not given them a minutes peace, half time came at the right time though as they looked tired towards the last 5-10 mins of the half. Hope the Queens manager can pick them up at half time and they can win by 2 goals
Just turned on tv - 1-0 queens h-t . hope they do it .
hope they do it .
Chisholm must have said, "go out there, stick tight, and don't stop running until we have 2 goals, even if they score as well".
The 2 goal mark for Queens is essential, they can't bother worrying about the tie until they match those away goals. I do wonder if it would be better or not for them to get the second early in the next half. If they do, some players might start thinking about the game and that's when mistakes can happen.
The 2 goal mark for Queens is essential, they can't bother worrying about the tie until they match those away goals. I do wonder if it would be better or not for them to get the second early in the next half. If they do, some players might start thinking about the game and that's when mistakes can happen.
QUOTE (zenith st.petersburg @ Aug 26 2008, 18:57)
Just turned on tv - 1-0 queens h-t . hope they do it .
hope they do it .You and DJP should get together
Love you.
Nords have been extremely poor, no composure and erratic defending. QOTS haven't really been troubled much themselves, although without the second goal it's pointless.
I'm getting turned on.
I'm getting turned on.
QUOTE (GeeJay @ Aug 26 2008, 19:07)
Nords have been extremely poor, no composure and erratic defending. QOTS haven't really been troubled much themselves, although without the second goal it's pointless.
I'm getting turned on.
I'm getting turned on.
Threesome?
Love you.
QUOTE (interthenet jnr @ Aug 26 2008, 19:09)
Threesome?
Love you.
Love you.
Only if you supply the camera.
xx
Queens coming under a bit more pressure now.
Just checked the live text on the BBC site and found this bit that was posted during the half time interval
Just checked the live text on the BBC site and found this bit that was posted during the half time interval
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1856: Queens chairman David Ray is speaking to BBC Scotland's Jim Spence. It's a battle of the barnets. Former farmer Ray has a wig like Boris Johnson's grandad. Or the Douglas Hurd puppet on Spitting Images. Mr Whippy-esque. Meanwhile Spencey has a head of air like a ginger microphone.
yep, looking a bit more tired, heres dobbie now though.....
Is that Cammy Bell the killie player in nets? Saw him off his face in Maga a few months ago.
come on queen of the south!!!
QotS are all over them right now, just 1 more goal!
the dream is dead, long live the dream
Thought Dobbie should have been on earlier, night night 2-1.
Unlucky QotS 
2-1!
They deserve to go through
At least they didn't get hammered
They deserve to go through
At least they didn't get hammered
Shame as they deserved atleast a draw tonight for their performance.
Better team won. They passed the ball/retained posession and have more quality. QOS are painfully slow in attack, Dobbie is ridiculously overweight it has to be said.
Still, could have been worse.
Still, could have been worse.
Unlucky Queens a great effort.
QUOTE (Juninho @ Aug 26 2008, 19:48)
Better team won. They passed the ball/retained posession and have more quality. QOS are painfully slow in attack, Dobbie is ridiculously overweight it has to be said.
Still, could have been worse.
Still, could have been worse.
I'd say the draw would have been fair on the night, a defeat was a bit harsh considering their first half efforts, they had that bit quality up front in their number 9
well done queens
thought queens were unlucky!!
ran there hearts out but sadly they ran out of steam
ran there hearts out but sadly they ran out of steam
The better team won, I didn't think QoS looked like they had the ability to score a 2nd goal and it was only a matter of time till Nordsjaelland scored.
Why the tall lad didn't thump it when he just had to beat the keeper, I don't know, instead he tried to place it and the keeper easily closed his legs.
Fair play to them, they appeared to give 100% and perhaps deserved a draw.
Why the tall lad didn't thump it when he just had to beat the keeper, I don't know, instead he tried to place it and the keeper easily closed his legs.
Fair play to them, they appeared to give 100% and perhaps deserved a draw.
Felt queens were unlucky tonight - they just couldnt break through the defence in the 2nd half. I also thought tosh should have been subbed
Nordsjaelland took their chances, Queens didnt
QUOTE (RCR @ Aug 26 2008, 20:07)
Felt queens were unlucky tonight - they just couldnt break through the defence in the 2nd half. I also thought tosh should have been subbed
Hard lines guys, WELL AT LEAST YOU WERE IN IT .
Nae luck, enjoyable game that could have been won right up to near the end, the better team, won but it could have been different if the clear chances that were created had been taken...I'm sure the fans over there will have a good night
QUOTE (tizme @ Aug 26 2008, 20:43)
Hard lines guys, WELL AT LEAST YOU WERE IN IT .
Not sure why you quoted me there, I'm a county fan
Very very proud of the team, the staff and the fans tonight. The whole club. Fabulous effort. They said we'd embarrass Scottish football, we didn't. They said we were out after the first leg, we weren't. Super effort and what magnificent support start to finish. Our hosts thought it was amazing. Great touch the Nordsjaelland team coming over at the end to applaud the Queens fans. Wonderful friendly hosts and I wish them all the best for the future, though I don't think they'll go any further in the competition.
The tie was almost there, in the end we just gave ourselves too much to do after giving away cheap goals in Airdrie. In the end defeat was disappointing but a result of gambling more and more towards the end. If 1-0 would have done we might well have held on for it.
Tonight sees the climax of probably the best eight months in the hostory of the club. It's in the hands of this squad where we go from here. They have the capability to challenge at the top end of the league if they kick on from here. Otherwise, the only way is down but what a ride it's been. I hope every lower division fan gets to one day experience the roller coaster ride we've been on over the last few months. You earn it.
The tie was almost there, in the end we just gave ourselves too much to do after giving away cheap goals in Airdrie. In the end defeat was disappointing but a result of gambling more and more towards the end. If 1-0 would have done we might well have held on for it.
Tonight sees the climax of probably the best eight months in the hostory of the club. It's in the hands of this squad where we go from here. They have the capability to challenge at the top end of the league if they kick on from here. Otherwise, the only way is down but what a ride it's been. I hope every lower division fan gets to one day experience the roller coaster ride we've been on over the last few months. You earn it.
QUOTE (RCR @ Aug 26 2008, 21:52)
Not sure why you quoted me there, I'm a county fan
Thought you looked a bit lonley lol
I thought Queens harried and hassled well, but that's about it. The Danes looked to have similar ability to a bottom half SPL club, so I imagine the Queens players will be gutted at losing this one.
For all the platitudes Queens will receive, the corner and shot count shows they were second best on the night. Dobbie looked a cut above anyone else in their team when he came on, so it puzzles me that Kean started. To my untrained eye, it would be better to get 60 minutes from Dobbie then stick Kean on to use his pace as defences start to tire.
Myybe the outcome would have been different if O'Connor had taken his chance at 0-1, but Queens may have struggled to hang on to even a two goal lead, such was their level of tiredness.
Still, overall it was a better effort than Queens' defunct neighbours managed against weaker opposition a couple of years back.
For all the platitudes Queens will receive, the corner and shot count shows they were second best on the night. Dobbie looked a cut above anyone else in their team when he came on, so it puzzles me that Kean started. To my untrained eye, it would be better to get 60 minutes from Dobbie then stick Kean on to use his pace as defences start to tire.
Myybe the outcome would have been different if O'Connor had taken his chance at 0-1, but Queens may have struggled to hang on to even a two goal lead, such was their level of tiredness.
Still, overall it was a better effort than Queens' defunct neighbours managed against weaker opposition a couple of years back.
QUOTE (wearealldoomed @ Aug 27 2008, 09:38)
Dobbie looked a cut above anyone else in their team when he came on, so it puzzles me that Kean started. To my untrained eye, it would be better to get 60 minutes from Dobbie then stick Kean on to use his pace as defences start to tire.
Er, because Kean played left of midfield and not up front and Dobbie can't do that in a month of Sundays. I rather suspect if Arbuckle had been fit he'd have played where Kean did instead and neither Kean nor Dobbie would have started.
If you're saying we should have played 4-4-2 with Dobbie instead then fair enough but I think the 4-5-1 tactics worked well enough in that we were one up and had two or three chances to make it two. It gave Stevie Tosh licence to roam all over the place with Adams doing much the same and for at least half the game it paid rich dividends.
QUOTE (Skyline Drifter @ Aug 27 2008, 11:51)
Er, because Kean played left of midfield and not up front and Dobbie can't do that in a month of Sundays. I rather suspect if Arbuckle had been fit he'd have played where Kean did instead and neither Kean nor Dobbie would have started.
If you're saying we should have played 4-4-2 with Dobbie instead then fair enough but I think the 4-5-1 tactics worked well enough in that we were one up and had two or three chances to make it two. It gave Stevie Tosh licence to roam all over the place with Adams doing much the same and for at least half the game it paid rich dividends.
If you're saying we should have played 4-4-2 with Dobbie instead then fair enough but I think the 4-5-1 tactics worked well enough in that we were one up and had two or three chances to make it two. It gave Stevie Tosh licence to roam all over the place with Adams doing much the same and for at least half the game it paid rich dividends.
I'd have played Dobbie alongside O'Connor.
For all that Tosh and Adams ran all over the place, the only openings Queens created in open play were Kean's lash over the bar and the same player's weak cut-back, collected by the keeper. Kean was the obvious weak link in the Queens team, his passing being particularly poor.
Queens had much less of the ball in the second half, but looked much more dangerous with the limited possession they had after Dobbie's introduction.
4-5-1 has it's place, but chasing two goals againmst a team low on confidence is not where it's best used IMO.
QUOTE (wearealldoomed @ Aug 27 2008, 09:38)
I thought Queens harried and hassled well, but that's about it. The Danes looked to have similar ability to a bottom half SPL club, so I imagine the Queens players will be gutted at losing this one.
For all the platitudes Queens will receive, the corner and shot count shows they were second best on the night. Dobbie looked a cut above anyone else in their team when he came on, so it puzzles me that Kean started. To my untrained eye, it would be better to get 60 minutes from Dobbie then stick Kean on to use his pace as defences start to tire.
Myybe the outcome would have been different if O'Connor had taken his chance at 0-1, but Queens may have struggled to hang on to even a two goal lead, such was their level of tiredness.
Still, overall it was a better effort than Queens' defunct neighbours managed against weaker opposition a couple of years back.
For all the platitudes Queens will receive, the corner and shot count shows they were second best on the night. Dobbie looked a cut above anyone else in their team when he came on, so it puzzles me that Kean started. To my untrained eye, it would be better to get 60 minutes from Dobbie then stick Kean on to use his pace as defences start to tire.
Myybe the outcome would have been different if O'Connor had taken his chance at 0-1, but Queens may have struggled to hang on to even a two goal lead, such was their level of tiredness.
Still, overall it was a better effort than Queens' defunct neighbours managed against weaker opposition a couple of years back.
QUOTE (wearealldoomed @ Aug 27 2008, 12:05)
I'd have played Dobbie alongside O'Connor.
For all that Tosh and Adams ran all over the place, the only openings Queens created in open play were Kean's lash over the bar and the same player's weak cut-back, collected by the keeper. Kean was the obvious weak link in the Queens team, his passing being particularly poor.
Queens had much less of the ball in the second half, but looked much more dangerous with the limited possession they had after Dobbie's introduction.
4-5-1 has it's place, but chasing two goals againmst a team low on confidence is not where it's best used IMO.
For all that Tosh and Adams ran all over the place, the only openings Queens created in open play were Kean's lash over the bar and the same player's weak cut-back, collected by the keeper. Kean was the obvious weak link in the Queens team, his passing being particularly poor.
Queens had much less of the ball in the second half, but looked much more dangerous with the limited possession they had after Dobbie's introduction.
4-5-1 has it's place, but chasing two goals againmst a team low on confidence is not where it's best used IMO.
Totally agree with both of your posts. I think we coluld have got through if we had played 4-4-2 in both games, with Dobbie up front.
Even with the team being handicapped by the tactics, we wouldn't have lost the first goal had MacFarlane still been playing. Robertson went to close down the same guy as McQuilken, leaving a gap, which Harris filled and this in turn made the left side totally exposed.
The second goal was a direct result of Thomson playing up front, leaving 1 v 1 at the back. I know we were chasing a goal, but putting JT up front was a total waste of time.
We were capable of winning that tie but the damage was done by our tactics, particularly in the first leg.
QUOTE (thejailender @ Aug 26 2008, 19:14)
Queens coming under a bit more pressure now.
Just checked the live text on the BBC site and found this bit that was posted during the half time interval
Just checked the live text on the BBC site and found this bit that was posted during the half time interval
QUOTE (Skyline Drifter @ Aug 27 2008, 02:41)
Very very proud of the team, the staff and the fans tonight. The whole club. Fabulous effort. They said we'd embarrass Scottish football, we didn't. They said we were out after the first leg, we weren't. Super effort and what magnificent support start to finish. Our hosts thought it was amazing. Great touch the Nordsjaelland team coming over at the end to applaud the Queens fans. Wonderful friendly hosts and I wish them all the best for the future, though I don't think they'll go any further in the competition.
The tie was almost there, in the end we just gave ourselves too much to do after giving away cheap goals in Airdrie. In the end defeat was disappointing but a result of gambling more and more towards the end. If 1-0 would have done we might well have held on for it.
Tonight sees the climax of probably the best eight months in the hostory of the club. It's in the hands of this squad where we go from here. They have the capability to challenge at the top end of the league if they kick on from here. Otherwise, the only way is down but what a ride it's been. I hope every lower division fan gets to one day experience the roller coaster ride we've been on over the last few months. You earn it.
The tie was almost there, in the end we just gave ourselves too much to do after giving away cheap goals in Airdrie. In the end defeat was disappointing but a result of gambling more and more towards the end. If 1-0 would have done we might well have held on for it.
Tonight sees the climax of probably the best eight months in the hostory of the club. It's in the hands of this squad where we go from here. They have the capability to challenge at the top end of the league if they kick on from here. Otherwise, the only way is down but what a ride it's been. I hope every lower division fan gets to one day experience the roller coaster ride we've been on over the last few months. You earn it.
Seconded!
QUOTE (Flash @ Aug 27 2008, 13:18)
Totally agree with both of your posts. I think we coluld have got through if we had played 4-4-2 in both games, with Dobbie up front.
Even with the team being handicapped by the tactics, we wouldn't have lost the first goal had MacFarlane still been playing. Robertson went to close down the same guy as McQuilken, leaving a gap, which Harris filled and this in turn made the left side totally exposed.
The second goal was a direct result of Thomson playing up front, leaving 1 v 1 at the back. I know we were chasing a goal, but putting JT up front was a total waste of time.
We were capable of winning that tie but the damage was done by our tactics, particularly in the first leg.
Even with the team being handicapped by the tactics, we wouldn't have lost the first goal had MacFarlane still been playing. Robertson went to close down the same guy as McQuilken, leaving a gap, which Harris filled and this in turn made the left side totally exposed.
The second goal was a direct result of Thomson playing up front, leaving 1 v 1 at the back. I know we were chasing a goal, but putting JT up front was a total waste of time.
We were capable of winning that tie but the damage was done by our tactics, particularly in the first leg.
You've got a point but we needed a goal at the end and I'd probably have been waving Bell up front if I was the manager.
You're dammed if you do and it doesn't come off and you're dammed even more if you don't do something. A lot will hopefully be learnt from the UEFA Cup expereince. as Skyline says it will be interesting to see if the manager and the squad can put in a challenge for the title now. Posting this from Copenhagen and it's been an emotional and completely amazing few days. Thanks to the club and particularly the fans for making a dream come true. I can die happy saying I've watched Queens play away in Europe.
QUOTE (KingfaetheSooth @ Aug 27 2008, 14:20)
Thanks to the club and particularly the fans for making a dream come true. I can die happy saying I've watched Queens play away in Europe.
That's what it's all aboot
" Even with the team being handicapped by the tactics, we wouldn't have lost the first goal had MacFarlane still been playing. Robertson went to close down the same guy as McQuilken, leaving a gap, which Harris filled and this in turn made the left side totally exposed. "
Well surely if McQuilken is on the left wing and the ball got played down the left hand side then surely it should be him thats defending . Robertson was charging their right back becuase he had a shot blocked , what else was he meant to do , shot blocked then stand and watch ? At least he tried to make the tackle !
Well surely if McQuilken is on the left wing and the ball got played down the left hand side then surely it should be him thats defending . Robertson was charging their right back becuase he had a shot blocked , what else was he meant to do , shot blocked then stand and watch ? At least he tried to make the tackle !
Anyone got video footage of we bob's goal?
QUOTE (Flash @ Aug 27 2008, 13:18)
Totally agree with both of your posts. I think we coluld have got through if we had played 4-4-2 in both games, with Dobbie up front.
Even with the team being handicapped by the tactics, we wouldn't have lost the first goal had MacFarlane still been playing. Robertson went to close down the same guy as McQuilken, leaving a gap, which Harris filled and this in turn made the left side totally exposed.
The second goal was a direct result of Thomson playing up front, leaving 1 v 1 at the back. I know we were chasing a goal, but putting JT up front was a total waste of time.
We were capable of winning that tie but the damage was done by our tactics, particularly in the first leg.
Even with the team being handicapped by the tactics, we wouldn't have lost the first goal had MacFarlane still been playing. Robertson went to close down the same guy as McQuilken, leaving a gap, which Harris filled and this in turn made the left side totally exposed.
The second goal was a direct result of Thomson playing up front, leaving 1 v 1 at the back. I know we were chasing a goal, but putting JT up front was a total waste of time.
We were capable of winning that tie but the damage was done by our tactics, particularly in the first leg.
I think we'd have been thumped if we'd played 4-4-2 in both legs. The Danes were technically a better side and we had to stop them playing. We did that for 85 minutes last night and only lost 2 goals by pushing forward chasing the game. A 1-0 win was not enough, so why not push men forward?
QUOTE (Juninho @ Aug 26 2008, 19:48)
Better team won.* They passed the ball/retained posession and have more quality. QOS are painfully slow in attack, Dobbie is ridiculously overweight it has to be said.**
Still, could have been worse.
Still, could have been worse.
QUOTE (Rinky Sidebottom @ Aug 26 2008, 20:00)
The better team won*, I didn't think QoS looked like they had the ability to score a 2nd goal and it was only a matter of time till Nordsjaelland scored.
Why the tall lad didn't thump it when he just had to beat the keeper, I don't know, instead he tried to place it and the keeper easily closed his legs.
Fair play to them, they appeared to give 100% and perhaps deserved a draw.
Why the tall lad didn't thump it when he just had to beat the keeper, I don't know, instead he tried to place it and the keeper easily closed his legs.
Fair play to them, they appeared to give 100% and perhaps deserved a draw.
*
What game were you two watching?! QoS deserved at least a draw for their efforts, 2-1 flattered FC as they never looked like scoring all night. There first was bad defending and their second would never have happened had Queens not sent JT up for an equaliser! QoS did the fans proud last night, close but not close enough, I thought when Bob scored his cracker that we were going to go on and win it. It was not meant to be. I thought the biggest mistake Chis made last night was taking Kean off rather than O'Connor! Sean looked slow all night and Kean looked full of running, DObbie had a few good touches but once again not enough time, with the signing of Weatherston I think Dobbie may be departing! Hope I'm wrong and that he just isn't performing in training!
Great experience for the club and fans and it would be great if we could do it again sometime in the not too distant future!
** Don't think he is actually he has lost a lot of weight pre season, and TBH I couldn't care what size he is as he is the best finisher in the league, just a pity Chisholm isn't playing him.
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