Just got a warning email from my ISP as follows:



Has anyone else got one and how did you handle it. It's not even as if it's an illegal movie or music. It was the UFC fights which are freely available on Bravo. I only downloaded it because I wanted to see the Brock Lesnar fight. My intention is to try and ignore it and hopefully not get any more.

Is there a way to tighten up my security? I have ipfilter enabled in utorrent already.

Unless you downloaded it from Bravo then you have downloaded it illegaly.

I'd just email them and say you've deleted it - but I dont think theres much you can do to stop them tracking you again in future.

Might be time for a change of ISP - although they have all signed up to this scheme now, I believe.

Who are you with, doesnt say on the email?

Is there a chance it's spam designed to make you sh*t yourself?

I only ask as 1) 15,000,000 bytes is an awfully round number for any file, and 2) 15,000,000 bytes is a small size for any video of length over a couple of minutes.

Thats probably just the first file in a series of files r00 being the first in a series going from r00 - r95 or so.

ADSL24 who are one of a number of small companies that get their pipes from the wholeseller Entanet.





No, it's not spam. I've now found a thread on the ADSL24 forum which states that it's three strikes and out. As for the file size it was in RAR format and they've only quoted the first RAR file. The whole file was 1.4GB.

I thought the whole idea with torrents is that they could not be traced as it's individual packets of data being moved around.

There's two answers to this, both of them "yes they can be traced", and only one I can be fucked typing out, so here it is..

"yes they can be traced".

The whole methods involved can be a tad convoluted but in essence, the ISP give you an IP number and IP's are used as the unique identifier within a P2P network. From there you merely need to trace previous downloads and sites you visited to get the files you were downloading. So it's not a case of sniffing packets and guessing what it is, more a case of watching the crumbs you drop and making an educated guess. All of this would be made much harder if it was someone without your IP address, but as it's your ISP it's easy enough to work out.


Edit: So, Ron, see all those illegal pr0n downloads you make? They aren't as invisible as you first thought..

Does anyone still download pr0n? I thought folk just used the various streaming (ho-ho!) sites that are around these days.

Depends on what sort of pr0n you want.

If it's classic pr0n then it's obviously available everywhere online. If it involves more unsavoury tastes, and especially if it borders into the illegal then you'll find the P2P networks full of it.

It never ceases to amaze me that while you hear about Operation Ore and the like, that you can download Limewire or whatever and in seconds can be downloading the very same images people are getting locked up for years for looking at. Yet no action seems to be taken about it.

Not all of them have.I thought it was only 6 of the biggest. I'm pretty sure Zen (my isp) haven't signed up to it, if they have they are keeping it quiet.

I thought these new steps werent coming in till April?
The first ISP that doesnt subscribe to this service and gives decent speeds will make an absolute fortune.

This measure will collapse when the companies start to hemorage (sp?) customers.

Sorry....you know about this how???

I didnt know you could get this sick shit on Limewire

I think its great actually, the quality of my service has improved no end since they started sending out letters.

You can get anything and everything. Not that I am an expert on this particular subject, I should point out.. ..

I think Virgin Media are starting to issue warnings as well. My mate got a phone call the other day telling her to stop downloading music illegally. She had downloaded 1 or 2 songs, compared to my many albums. Unlucky?

If I got a penny for every time I fixed a PC or laptop because limewire messed it up.....

Anyway, Ive not had any contact from my ISP but my router has been connecting at between 150-250 kbps for the last 3 days. I have checked out all my hardware and there is nothing wrong with any of it. Even connecting to the master socket doesnt make a difference. Im waiting on my ISP to get back to me about fixing it.

Surely they wouldnt restrict my download speed especially without warning would they?

WHat's the bet cause I used limewire for 2 songs I couldn't find i'll get the shits? :roll:

Least I never used it for anything else mind...

Would an ISP throttle your connection without telling you? Yeh. It goes on all the time, both for load balancing at key times and when you are over an agreed limit.

Will they do it for your specific case, who knows? I think the letters are just a bit of bluster from the ISPs in the face of pressure from anti-piracy groups.

Surely this three strikes and your out business would be a major change to your terms and conditions. Wouldn't an ISP, if they have signed up to this, be required to contact all their customers and notify them of this change before it began?

I haven't illegally downloaded anything in about a year.

Clean for a year! haha

I'd ignore that.



It'll no be that when you're locked up with Gary Glitter!

With songs, isn't it legal to download, but illegal to possess after 30 days or something peculiar like that?

Impressive btw. Until we get a warning, I suspect we'll carry on flouting the rules.

When these warnings start seriously people should phone up and cancel their subscription with their ISP as soon at they get their first.

They wont be long at backtracking if it hits them in the pocket.

I doubt their going to take you to court because you have an episode of UFC on your comp.

Mattbairn is right, tell them to f**k off.

terms and conditions generally cover terminating service for illegal activities anyway, isps just tend not to enforce it.

Hopefully my cunt of a neighbour in my new flat gets a warning pretty soon. Fucking daftie having an unsecured network

My other half has been using someone else's connection for about 3 weeks now

All you have to do is encrypt your torrent download.. slows it down but you wont get caught

http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-encrypt-bittorrent-traffic/

If you have Virgin its a +5 so you should use Azureus

hope this helps

Good stuff

I already had this done but as shown by the following comments in that thread -



this is only for when an ISP is throttling your downloads. My ISP claims not to do this although I still have the encryption on anyway.

in azureus under connection, if you untick public IP network then you're anonymous. Very slow, but anonymous none the less!

ric, master of the pr0n

sure theres another unsavoury"master-" based pun in there too.

So it's you two who are responsable for having all these Supras aliai?!

Using it off this lad, perchance?



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