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Div
For those technically minded amongst you;

Windows XP Service Pack 2 is on release now to network administrators and will shortly be churning out via the Windows Update service to users all over the land who run either XP Home or XP professional on their computers.

I have been testing this at work today prior to us releasing and there are a few things to know about;

This is a major security relatated release. It comes with a number of updates to the personal firewall that is built in to XP and also some big changes to internet explorer. Pop ups are now blocked by default so things like personal messages on P&B won't be obvious to you unless you add P&B to your list of "allowed pop up sites" when prompted by Windows.



The ten top reasons for updating to SP2 (Which is totally free);

1) Help protect your PC from harmful attachments.

By alerting you to potentially unsafe attachments, SP2 helps guard your computer from viruses that can spread through Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, and Windows Messenger.


2) Improve your privacy when you’re on the Web.

SP2 helps protect your private information by applying the security settings that guard your PC to the files and content downloaded using Internet Explorer.


3) Avoid potentially unsafe downloads.

Internet Explorer download monitoring and the Internet Explorer Information Bar warn you about potentially harmful downloads and give you the option to block files that could be malicious.


4) Reduce annoying pop-ups.

Internet Explorer Pop-Up Blocker makes browsing the Internet more enjoyable by helping you reduce the unwanted ads and content that pop up when you’re browsing the Web.



5) Get firewall protection from startup to shutdown.

The powerful, built-in Windows Firewall is now turned on by default. This helps protect Windows XP against viruses and worms that can spread over the Internet.



6) Take control of your security settings.

The new Windows Security Center allows you to easily view your security status and manage key security settings in one convenient place.



7) Get the latest updates easily.

Enhancements to Windows XP’s Automatic Updates feature make it even easier to access Windows updates. Plus, new technology has been added to help dial-up customers download updates more efficiently.



8) Help protect your e-mail address.

Improvements to Outlook Express help reduce unwanted e-mail by limiting the possibility of your e-mail address being validated by potential spammers.




9) Take action against crashes caused by browser add-ons.

The new Add-On Manager in Internet Explorer lets you easily view and control add-ons to reduce the potential for crashes and enjoy a more trouble-free browsing experience.





10) Go wireless without the hassle.

SP2 improves wireless support and simplifies the process of discovering and connecting to wireless networks in your home or on the road


There you go smile.gif


ps: Could all the Linux/Mozilla users please stop sniggering laugh.gif
savagecabbage
Its a big download. i think they are planning to send out cds with it on it.
Stu
With Microsoft's not so hot record of releasing these things, would it be advisable to wait a few weeks whilst bugs are ironed out?
Div
QUOTE (savagecabbage @ Aug 12 2004, 09:41 PM)
Its a big download. i think they are planning to send out cds with it on it.

Admin download for networks is 226Mb but Windows Update will be a smaller auto download - but still a biggie - particularly for dial-up users ohmy.gif

Service Packs will only be bug fixed by incremental Windows Updates that are applied. Since this is majorly focused on security updates there is an obvious risk but I would rather have it than not - as it is fixing holes in SP1 (although almost certainly creating more wink.gif )
gogs
whens it out and how much is it going to cost
Div
QUOTE (gogs @ Aug 15 2004, 09:05 PM)
whens it out and how much is it going to cost

Out tomorrow - totally free of charge - assuming you already have Windows XP wink.gif
savagecabbage
will it be an automatic update and roughly how long does it take to download?

ive got broadband but not sure if it will take a while
Blue Brazil Forever
I've stayed with Windows 98 SE plus Zone Alarm Pro, Ghost Surf and System Suite 5. Never any problems. Windows XP is a load of SH**e
Swampy
I'll be waiting until the inevitable security holes in the initial SP2 release are rectified before I download. I'll give it a week.
gogs
where do u go to download it
Div
QUOTE (gogs @ Aug 16 2004, 09:36 PM)
where do u go to download it

Windows update will pick it up if you have it switched on.

** click here to start protecting your windows xp system **
scot_17s
Any ideas how it will react to virus scanners and other firewalls? You would hope that it had all been tested properly but then again it is Microsoft we are talking about. I just felt reading the post that maybe users might end up with the same sort of senario you get when you run two virus scanners on your system and they get in each others way.

Also could this be construed as Microsoft trying to corner the Anti Virus market as well as their operating system monopoly?
SeD
QUOTE (scot_17s @ Aug 17 2004, 12:44 AM)
Any ideas how it will react to virus scanners and other firewalls? You would hope that it had all been tested properly but then again it is Microsoft we are talking about. I just felt reading the post that maybe users might end up with the same sort of senario you get when you run two virus scanners on your system and they get in each others way.

Also could this be construed as Microsoft trying to corner the Anti Virus market as well as their operating system monopoly?

The beta release I'm using recognises the existence of the ZoneAlarm firewall and the AVG anti-virus software. It hasn't, so far, attempted to hijack them wink.gif
Tomsk The Beano
XP SP2 will stop 50 software packages from running properly on your PC. There is a list somewhere on the MS website.
scot_17s
QUOTE (SeD @ Aug 17 2004, 07:51 AM)
The beta release I'm using recognises the existence of the ZoneAlarm firewall and the AVG anti-virus software. It hasn't, so far, attempted to hijack them wink.gif

Kool, thats the two i'm using so hopefully no problems then, cheers mate. biggrin.gif
miketheheadlesschicken
QUOTE (Tomsk The Beano @ Aug 17 2004, 12:41 PM)
XP SP2 will stop 50 software packages from running properly on your PC. There is a list somewhere on the MS website.

Link

Not all of them are vital pieces of software (I doubt many will still be playing NBA Live 2000) and not all will stop working. Most problems are caused by the new Windows firewall. Most people have their own dedicated firewall so they'll switch off the Windows firewall anyway.
Div
There is no "beta" for SP2 - it is on release to network administrators and manufacturers and has been for quite some time. The release via Windows Update was scheduled for 16th August so should have started to rollout yesterday.

The firewall is now switched on automatically on network, dial-up, VPN connections alike but can be switched off if you have existing firewall software running.

If you do retain the Windows Firewall then it does the same job as zonealarm, ie: if it wants to block ftp software from using port 21 it will tell you and give you the option of opening that port for that program cool.gif
Waxoyl Fan Club
BBC News

QUOTE
Holes found in Windows XP update
Memory chips in computer, Eyewire
Reported bugs in SP2 let files find their way onto users' machines
Barely hours after home users started securing their PCs with a key update for Windows XP, security experts have found ways around it.

The SP2 update makes XP less attractive to virus writers and malicious hackers by plugging widely exploited loopholes.

But discoveries by security firms Secunia and German company Heise show that some holes have been left open.

Microsoft said it was investigating one of the new bugs but said no users had been caught out by this loophole.

Bug watch

The bug Microsoft is looking into lets malicious programs hide as images that automatically install and then run when Windows is re-started.

Microsoft only put the SP2 security patch for the Home edition of Windows XP on its auto-update servers this week.

SP2 provides a single place for people to control anti-virus software, firewall and XP updates as well as blocking pop-up ads, some spyware and warning about the dangers of e-mail attachments.


SP2 CHANGES
Pop-up ads blocked
Revamped firewall on by default
Outlook Express, Internet Explorer and Windows Messenger warn about attachments
Origins of downloaded files logged
Web graphics in e-mail no longer loaded by default
Some spyware blocked
Users regularly reminded about Windows Updates
Security Centre brings together information about anti-virus, updates and firewall
Protection against buffer over-runs
Windows Messenger Service turned off by default

Q&A: What you need to know
The update also tweaks XP to make it less vulnerable to the bugs exploited by viruses and other malicious programs.

But security expert Secunia has posted information about a bug in Internet Explorer that could, it says, let a malicious website "plant an arbitrary executable file in a user's start-up folder".

When an infected system is re-booted, the planted program will run.

The bug works on systems patched with SP2.

The loophole, which strikes when files are dragged and dropped from the net on to a local zone, was found by an ethical hacker who goes by the handle of http-equiv.

A demonstration of the bug has been posted on the Malware website.

"Given the significant amount of user action required to execute an attack, Microsoft does not consider this to be a high risk for customers," said Paul Randle, head of all things XP at Microsoft UK.

But he added that Microsoft was investigating to see what action needed to be taken to deal with the bug.

Tricking Windows

Other problems with SP2 were discovered by German security firm Heise, which published information about two of them.

Heise found that the system SP2 introduces to warn users about the dangers of running untrusted files downloaded from the net can be subverted.

The company found a way to trick Windows into running net-downloaded files without warning users about what was happening.

When Heise asked Microsoft about the bugs, the software giant said it did not think that it needed to produce patches or workarounds to tackle them.

The vulnerabilities discovered have are not being exploited in the wild and have only been demonstrated as working in ideal circumstances.

However, Microsoft has produced a so-called hotfix for SP2 to help tackle a problem some people are having with programs that use particular net addresses.
SeD
QUOTE (pieman @ Aug 17 2004, 03:18 PM)
There is no "beta" for SP2

Someone needs to tell Microsoft then ohmy.gif

Work had a beta until last week wink.gif
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