Before anyone thinks i'm turning into a Morton fan i need to start with the following disclaimer:

THIS IS NOT A W**KFEST OVER CROWDS THREAD. THIS IS MORE OF AN OBSERVATION. POSTERS DO SO AT THEIR OWN RISK.

In time-honoured PnB fashion i am going to be hypocritical on this one and say i was not at the game yesterday due to my best mates wedding clashing with the season curtain-raiser. I was however disappointed by the paltry crowd that made its way to McD yesterday.

Perhaps i was under the influence of the usual pre-season hype but i would have expected there to have been a bigger crowd on Saturday especially when you check the attendances at the other Div1 games. Ok, holidays/weddings etc. may have influenced the gate but this would have affected every game.

What sort of support did Livi take? I thought the excitement of La Revolucion under Signor Landi would have sparked a decent travelling support into action. On account of this the home support must have been pretty bad if only 2600 odd hardy souls braved the summer conditions. Was this the case?

Don't know what the livi crowd was like bt to be honest livi dont usualy bring a large travelling support (probably the worst in the league in my opinion) so i would say close to the 2100/2200 were saints fans.

Even by St Johnstone's standards, that's a fairly pathetic attendance for a warm opening day. More so considering the signings made/positive vibes/promotion favourites-tag. Quite shocking actually.


But mildly amusing.

I would imagine that the actual gate would be close to what our average would be which like you said was pretty low given the combined factors that you mentioned.

It doesn't make much difference to us really i was just trying to get my head round it.

400 or so from Livi I'd venture.

It was a piss poor attendance, but it's really not a surprise. We don't have a great support in terms of numbers. It's sitting at a base level at the moment and it's not going to improve 'til some of the fair weather fans come back. That's not going to happen 'til we start to win regularly and convincingly. Such is life.

Plus, there's lots to do on the farm at the moment.

Ours was 3,444 (according to the Dundee site)

Was happy with the amount we had up plus County had a good number.

I just realised there is a thread about this on WAP. I'm not going to lose any sleep about it but i just thought it was an interesting number in comparison with the other gates yesterday.

JUst to save anyone else from bothering; if Morton were favourites for the league we would be drawing crowds of 25,000+ every week etc etc...

then you woke up chewing your pillow mate yous lot struggle to ger 2500 never mind 25 000 +

We have a poor crowd. End of. But the performance of the team and players as individuals is much more important than crowd sizes.

Ross County v Dundee - 3444

atleast 1000 of those were dundee fans but probably around 1200

great support considering the distance and the injuries im sure put a fair few off going

Muppet.

Complete fucking muppet would be more accurate.

Even when you think you're used to the site, some posts have the capacity to blow you away.

I can't remember an away support as large as that up in recent seasons. There was a sizeable home support as well, mainly due to the novelty of being back in the First. I would say that you had about 8-900 up, 1200 would be exaggerating slightly.

The worst thing about Victoria Park is you can hardly ever hear each support sing. The sound doesn't travel well.

Very true loki. I only ever heard ross county sing twice snd both was when you had corners. The tiny section that sang was behind the goal at countys end?

woooooooooooooooooooooosssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh

yey true - aye probably around the 1000 mark but big support never the less

aye good home support aswell - god behind your team

as i said in a post on a different topic County should have no worrie what so ever about being relegated

The answer to your musings is quite straightforward( and it's the reason I haven't visited and will not be visiting McD)

...............................................£17.00

And pathetic coppers that prevent football supporters from having a good time and supporting thier team.

Likewise the only Dundee singing I heard was in the Mallard! I assume that there was alot of singing by the Dundee fans but it just doesnt travel across the pitch well. There was quite alot of people singing when occasionally we burst into song. We heard when you scored though.

I commented yesterday to a mate how pityful the Clyde home support was. Very very poor!!

You heard us twice? There must've been an echo.

We were singing near-enough non-stop, save for a few spells of breath-catching!

The noise probably just escaped up into the ether. That's the problem with open-terracing.

Albion Rovers 1 Forfar 3 Att 289, Must have been some Atmosphere at that 1

This is one of the paradox statements that i find hard to digest. People often wax lyrical about how the new Lego stadiums TM have shit atmospheres.

A covered stadium doesn't allow for a good atmosphere in itself. It needs to be of a certain design, and invariably this "design" results in a damn good stadium.

Perth show this weekend, remember. I thought it was a fairly poor crowd since it was opening day but Livingston looked to have brought less than they did to the last game of last season.

loud when we scored then?

I thought it was a pretty piss poor Saints support for the start of the season actually. In terms of numbers and noise. It was hard for me to comment on our support in terms of size because I was stuck at the far end but I thought we brought along a not bad number (for us anyway).

Livingston have a rubbish home support so I don't think you're really in a position to judge anyone elses.

That's a silly argument.

Isn't that more or less Morton's argument most of the time too?

Get over it.

No not really.
If we, for example, get a crowd of 2200 or so next week it would be pish, and EdinburghLivi would be well within his rights to call the spade a spade.

It is completely irrelevant how good our home support is. I was stating that I thought there would be far more St. Johnstone fans turning out for the first game of the season.

Or do you think that was a good Saints crowd?

I usually refrain from using base level humour ( ), but it has become painfully clear over the past few days that vikingTON is in desperate need of his hole.

I am in need of a warm pain au chocolat and nothing else at the moment, although if you're offering...

I think that has been obvious for several months, if not longer.

The Saintees will have a field day on Tuesday, ramshackle terrace, poor home support. They'll be champing at the bit to get home and tell everyone on p&b all about how terrible it is down in those lower leagues.

To be fair, i can't wait to do just that. It'll practically be slumming it with the riff raff!

We can and will attract bigger crowds this season, but it certainly wasn't 'piss poor'.

That's subject to opinion ie EdinburghLivi's opinion amongst others.

Seriously. The worst she can say is no. And Nizzy is always there to pick up the pieces.

I'd suspect Nizzy's style of brute force would leave me in pieces...

I'm a considerate and gentle lover. It's all in the hip action.

Yes, you were vocal. Maybe that's why you got your penalty.

It's a silly exaggeration. The crowd was close to 2,700 and with around 300 away fans that leaves about 2,400 home fans. In comparison to our first home game last season which pulled an astounding attendance of 2,200 in which I think Stirling brought more than Livi did yesterday, I'd definitely say that yesterdays crowd wasn't 'piss poor'. I maybe expected a tad more given it was the first game of the season but the Perth show is a massive crowd puller and indeed was extremely busy when I was in town earlier in the day. Not being as much as someone would expect for the opening game doesn't make a crowd 'piss poor'.

and your compression suit.

I'd say 2400 is a piss poor crowd, albeit your attendances are known to be on the smaller side but you ought to attract gloryhunters, interested neutrals and even the more stubborn armchair fan for the first game of the season, particularly given new signings and expectations of success.