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Queensthroughandthrough
Great crowd today of 2,914 which was brilliant considering that the Dumfries show was taking place as well in the town.

Big Jim Thompson sent of for dangerous play.

Not the start I expected, but no goals against is good because I know we will score plenty wink.gif
QosLoyal
Was expecting a lot better than what i saw but in the end i was happy with a point especially when we were down to 10 men! Jt getting sent off for being last man bringing the aidrie boy down. Airdrie tried to stifle us by playing 4-5-1 and it worked, we played 4-3-3 but i would prefer us to go back to 4-4-2 next week. Also tosh was really lucky he never got sent off, he was really petulant at times today. There wasnt too many clear cut chances and in the end up airdrie deserved their point. oh well onwards and upwards next week i hope.....
QosLoyal
laugh.gif just posted a topic about this aswell! can we get them merged



Dee4Life1893
More importantly, what is with the influx of David Jason avatars. Is it some kind of cult??
WindaeLicker
Promising I suppose. If you had offered me a point before the game I'd have taken it, A clean sheet is a bonus.
QosLoyal
QUOTE (Dee4Life1893 @ Aug 2 2008, 17:26) *
More importantly, what is with the influx of David Jason avatars. Is it some kind of cult??



yes. yes it is
Twynholm
Borin!
19QOS19

I'm not trying to criticise Chisholm, because it's only one result, so I will try and word this nicely. Mr Chisholm, you know better than me, your football knowledge would truly out do me, but please please please don't play the 1st division's best finisher on left midfield anymore, put him upfront, WHERE HE BELONGS!

(Before someone says I am only saying this because we didn't score, I stated that Dobbs should be playing upfront last week as well.)
Distant Doonhamer
As I said after last weeks stroll at Berwick I don`t think we can afford to play with only 3 midfielders at this level. Today`s formation left us horribly outnumbered in midfield and meant we never got going. We aren`t good enough to play the formation we did today. In my view Dobbie is the best striker in this league and needs to be played up front. A really flat performance which in all truth we were lucky to get a point from. Pass marks to Reid, Barr and Halliwell in my opinion which says it all really. We offered virtually nothing in a creative sense.
All credit to Airdrie who did well. Not the start we were looking for but given the excess hype this week and our traditionally awful opening day record I suppose at least we didn`t lose.
19QOS19
QUOTE (Distant Doonhamer @ Aug 2 2008, 18:07) *
As I said after last weeks stroll at Berwick I don`t think we can afford to play with only 3 midfielders at this level. Today`s formation left us horribly outnumbered in midfield and meant we never got going. We aren`t good enough to play the formation we did today. In my view Dobbie is the best striker in this league and needs to be played up front. A really flat performance which in all truth we were lucky to get a point from. Pass marks to Reid, Barr and Halliwell in my opinion which says it all really. We offered virtually nothing in a creative sense.
All credit to Airdrie who did well. Not the start we were looking for but given the excess hype this week and our traditionally awful opening day record I suppose at least we didn`t lose.


Every single one of your sentences are spot on!
P45
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Aug 2 2008, 17:54) *
I'm not trying to criticise Chisholm, because it's only one result, so I will try and word this nicely. Mr Chisholm, you know better than me, your football knowledge would truly out do me, but please please please don't play the 1st division's best finisher on left midfield anymore, put him upfront, WHERE HE BELONGS!

(Before someone says I am only saying this because we didn't score, I stated that Dobbs should be playing upfront last week as well.)


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NO you can't have back McCall! tongue.gif
The Ghost of Ron Burgundy
QUOTE (Queensthroughandthrough @ Aug 2 2008, 17:18) *
Great crowd today of 2,914 which was brilliant considering that the Dumfries show was taking place as well in the town.

Big Jim Thompson sent of for dangerous play.

Not the start I expected, but no goals against is good because I know we will score plenty wink.gif


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dangerous in that he hauled back lynch who was clean through.

I was quite pleased with airdrie today.
diamondman
Sadly, happy with a point.

Can we move on to a scoring and not conceding combination?
veteran
Airdrie came to play for 0-0 and succeeded.That says as much about about Queens as it does about Airdrie.
We resorted too easily to the long ball against a team sitting deep which was an exercise in futility.
We seemed intent on a bit of show-boating at times , with Tosh as the main culprit. Show boating is fine after you've put in the graft to finish off the game , not before.
A couple more performances like this and you can knock a 1000 off todays gate.
19QOS19
QUOTE (P45 @ Aug 2 2008, 18:50) *
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NO you can't have back McCall! tongue.gif


We're not that desperate!

QUOTE (diamondman @ Aug 2 2008, 18:58) *
Sadly, happy with a point.

Can we move on to a scoring and not conceding combination?


Why Sadly? You can't honestly think you deserved anything more?! huh.gif
Ade Eyemond
QUOTE (Ade Eyemond @ Jul 30 2008, 11:30) *
Right, so QoS, high on the back of Cup Finals / Prospects of UEFA Cup and playing a newly promoted side, are going to win easily, or comfortably, or just sneak it, or as it QoS and they never win their 1st game, lose 3-0 ?

But, one thing for absolute certain is that there WILL be goals in this game ?

Right, then....

QoS 0-0 Airdrie.


Telt yeez ! cool.gif


Ade Eyemond
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Aug 2 2008, 19:09) *
Why Sadly? You can't honestly think you deserved anything more?! huh.gif


Yeah, we should be honoured at being allowed onto the same park as Real of the South, shouldn't we ?

I was going to allow this to pass without comment but from the tone of some of the comments on this thread I think the QoS fans want to get over themselves a wee bity. No offence guys, your usually a fairly inoffensive bunch, but you've had one season in the sun, and I think it's went to some of your heads. You're nowhere near the big shots ( some of ) you seem to think you are, not by a long way.
19QOS19
QUOTE (Ade Eyemond @ Aug 2 2008, 19:15) *
Yeah, we should be honoured at being allowed onto the same park as Real of the South, shouldn't we ?

I was going to allow this to pass without comment but from the tone of some of the comments on this thread I think the QoS fans want to get over themselves a wee bity. No offence guys, your usually a fairly inoffensive bunch, but you've had one season in the sun, and I think it's went to some of your heads. You're nowhere near the big shots ( some of ) you seem to think you are, not by a long way.



Close your mouth and start talking out your arse. Oh Wait!

The reason I questioned why that guy said Sadly was because Airdrie did nothing today except defence and got one lucky break. QoS were poor but had they played to their potential they would have ripped Airdrie to shreds, that's not being cocky mate that's a fact! Airdrie have got a long season ahead, we have more quality but never used it today.

I never mentioned last season in my post, but if some Airdrie fans think that they deserved anything more than a point today they have lost the plot!
Reynard
QUOTE (Ade Eyemond @ Aug 2 2008, 19:15) *
Yeah, we should be honoured at being allowed onto the same park as Real of the South, shouldn't we ?

I was going to allow this to pass without comment but from the tone of some of the comments on this thread I think the QoS fans want to get over themselves a wee bity. No offence guys, your usually a fairly inoffensive bunch, but you've had one season in the sun, and I think it's went to some of your heads. You're nowhere near the big shots ( some of ) you seem to think you are, not by a long way.



They have a bit of a swagger these days laugh.gif
Nobby
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Aug 2 2008, 19:09) *
Why Sadly? You can't honestly think you deserved anything more?! huh.gif

To be honest being happy with a 0-0 draw at QOTS is not where any Airdrie fan wants our team to be, but unfortunately that is where we are.

And in that spirit todays result was pretty decent.
Ade Eyemond
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Aug 2 2008, 19:21) *
QoS were poor but had they played to their potential they would have ripped Airdrie to shreds, that's not being cocky mate that's a fact!


Sorry, you're right, my mistake - One win against higher league opposition in a cup and, yes, QoS are indeed world beaters.

Thanks you for showing me the error of my ways cool.gif
19QOS19
QUOTE (Nobby @ Aug 2 2008, 19:24) *
To be honest being happy with a 0-0 draw at QOTS is not where any Airdrie fan wants our team to be, but unfortunately that is where we are.

And in that spirit todays result was pretty decent.


And yet it is us that are getting too big for our boots?! huh.gif .

Don't get me wrong I have respect for Airdrie and they did what they came to do today. But why some fans think we are being cocky is beyond me. We were at home to a newly promoted (by default) team today so asking for 3 points imo isn't acting cocky!
19QOS19
QUOTE (Ade Eyemond @ Aug 2 2008, 19:30) *
Sorry, you're right, my mistake - One win against higher league opposition in a cup and, yes, QoS are indeed world beaters.

Thanks you for showing me the error of my ways cool.gif



Who said they were? huh.gif
Diamonds are Forever
QUOTE (Ade Eyemond @ Aug 2 2008, 19:15) *
Yeah, we should be honoured at being allowed onto the same park as Real of the South, shouldn't we ?

I was going to allow this to pass without comment but from the tone of some of the comments on this thread I think the QoS fans want to get over themselves a wee bity. No offence guys, your usually a fairly inoffensive bunch, but you've had one season in the sun, and I think it's went to some of your heads. You're nowhere near the big shots ( some of ) you seem to think you are, not by a long way.



QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Aug 2 2008, 19:21) *
QoS were poor but had they played to their potential they would have ripped Airdrie to shreds, that's not being cocky mate that's a fact!


I think you've kinda just proved Ade to be totally correct in what he said wink.gif
QosLoyal
who was airdries left mid?
hotrodqos
Although we had more of the ball we were of no real threat today for some reason.
Airdrie I don't think they came and sat in they were a threat at times and had some pace on the left flank which troubled us at times.The sending off of J,T was the completion of the nightmare game he had.
overall disapointed with a draw at home.
silvery tay
QUOTE (veteran @ Aug 2 2008, 19:06) *
Airdrie came to play for 0-0 and succeeded.That says as much about about Queens as it does about Airdrie.
We resorted too easily to the long ball against a team sitting deep which was an exercise in futility.
We seemed intent on a bit of show-boating at times , with Tosh as the main culprit. Show boating is fine after you've put in the graft to finish off the game , not before.
A couple more performances like this and you can knock a 1000 off todays gate.


biggrin.gif Two piss poor teams by all accounts laugh.gif
RedV
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Aug 2 2008, 19:21) *
Close your mouth and start talking out your arse. Oh Wait!

The reason I questioned why that guy said Sadly was because Airdrie did nothing today except defence and got one lucky break. QoS were poor but had they played to their potential they would have ripped Airdrie to shreds, that's not being cocky mate that's a fact! Airdrie have got a long season ahead, we have more quality but never used it today.

I never mentioned last season in my post, but if some Airdrie fans think that they deserved anything more than a point today they have lost the plot!



What about the Queens fans who appear to agree? I take it they've "lost the plot" too? Or is it just that you're a wee bit of a scrotum really?
QosLoyal
QUOTE (silvery tay @ Aug 2 2008, 19:50) *
biggrin.gif Two piss poor teams by all accounts laugh.gif



cool the beans its a marathon not a sprint
Distant Doonhamer
I thought Airdrie did well today and certainly merited their point. With a little luck they could have had all three TBH. I was concerned in advance of the match today that some of our players (and fans) felt this would be an easy 3 points. No such thing in this division. Player for player we (IMHO) have more quality than Airdrie but there was no evidence of that today. We got our tactics wrong, they got theirs spot on. We were unbalanced, outnumbered 5 to 3 in midfield and created virtually nothing.
MUSKYQOS
Queens did not deliver today and it was a dissappointing performance. Too many players were well below par today and only Barr and Reid had good games in my view.
We are capable of much better.
Airdrie were dire and we probably wont see a poorer side at Palmerston all season and how they must be happy to have headed back up the road with a point.
Di Giacomo looked quite lively for the visitors but that and the solid performance from Robertson in goals was the only plus points for them.
Today Tosh,Burns and Kean never got into the game and Jim Thomson looked like he was back to what he was like a couple of seasons ago with big hoofed clearances up the park which always ended up with Airdrie regaining possession.
He deserved his red card and I could not understand why Queens fans applauded him of the park !!!
We got a decent crowd for this opening league game and I just hope that a lot of them were not put off by what they saw today. sad.gif
A tough trip to play Dunfermline next week awaits us next cool.gif
Nobby
QUOTE (MUSKYQOS @ Aug 2 2008, 20:36) *
Queens did not deliver today and it was a dissappointing performance. Too many players were well below par today and only Barr and Reid had good games in my view.
We are capable of much better.
Airdrie were dire and we probably wont see a poorer side at Palmerston all season and how they must be happy to have headed back up the road with a point.
Di Giacomo looked quite lively for the visitors but that and the solid performance from Robertson in goals was the only plus points for them.

There's always one inconsolable fan who tries to pull the "worst team we've seen all season" line on the opposition after a terrible performance by their own team. Never thought I'd see it on the first day of the season but well done mystic meg!

But aye, I'm sure the entire Airdrie team will be celebrating long into the night after this our greatest ever result laugh.gif laugh.gif
Toby Fair
Very disappointing today I thought. Many in the biggish crowd will have found an excuse to stay away next time on the basis of that display.
The reliance on long hoofs forward in the first half did not make for a great spectacle or provide any success. The second half might have been a tad brighter, but a goal never looked likely. I actually thought that despite his petulance, Tosh was one of our better performers. He probed away and did produce some good passes that were not exploited fully.
A draw was probably about right, but it was one of those games where there would have been no great injustice had either side won it. Airdrie came close when our 'keeper produced an excellent save low down in the second half. A clear chance was also denied by the Thomson foul which saw his dismissal. For us, O'Connor missed a good chance in each half, but most of our moves broke down earlier.
Maybe some of us have been getting carried away, but today should at least serve to stop that.
RedV
QUOTE (Toby Fair @ Aug 2 2008, 20:53) *
Very disappointing today I thought. Many in the biggish crowd will have found an excuse to stay away next time on the basis of that display.
The reliance on long hoofs forward in the first half did not make for a great spectacle or provide any success. The second half might have been a tad brighter, but a goal never looked likely. I actually thought that despite his petulance, Tosh was one of our better performers. He probed away and did produce some good passes that were not exploited fully.
A draw was probably about right, but it was one of those games where there would have been no great injustice had either side won it. Airdrie came close when our 'keeper produced an excellent save low down in the second half. A clear chance was also denied by the Thomson foul which saw his dismissal. For us, O'Connor missed a good chance in each half, but most of our moves broke down earlier.
Maybe some of us have been getting carried away, but today should at least serve to stop that.



Nice an balanced but.....


.....do you realise your user name makes you sound Russian?
QC Casual
Wasn't at the game today as I was down in Manchester honouring a legend! Still dissapointed not to win the game but a clean sheet is at least something to build on. Sounds like 3 upfront didn't work but its day one and not the end of the world!
Flash
Only good thing about today was that we didn't lose any ground to our fellow relegation candidates.
Whoever suggested Queens could win the league should have been forced to watch that. Brilliant tactic having Dobbie on the right of midfield in the first half, then on the left in the second - top scorer stuck out on, or close to,the wing for the majority of the game.
Thomson was shocking today. Short with a pass back in one incident, then lost possession near the box in another. Lumped it up the park to nobody at least a dozen times. Capped his MOM performance by getting caught under a simple ball, missing it, then bringing the guy down.
O'Connor demonstrated again that his finishing is very poor for a striker. Does a lot of good things, but not the best taker of chances. Seem to kick the ball with his ankles.
Burns and Tosh were poor, possibly as a result of the system, at least in Burns case. Played a bit better in the second half when he moved over closer to the right.
I'm not taking anything away from Airdrie, but if they are the prime relegation candidates, then so are we. If Thomson hadn't brought that guy down, we could well have lost.
Can't remember their goalie having to save a shot.
kirkyblue2
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Aug 2 2008, 17:54) *
I'm not trying to criticise Chisholm, because it's only one result, so I will try and word this nicely. Mr Chisholm, you know better than me, your football knowledge would truly out do me, but please please please don't play the 1st division's best finisher on left midfield anymore, put him upfront, WHERE HE BELONGS!

(Before someone says I am only saying this because we didn't score, I stated that Dobbs should be playing upfront last week as well.)

Don't be too hard on yourself, the guy's a chump but maybe someone will pull him to one side and point out the errors of his ways, a bit like last season 'cos there aint no hiding places now.
After all the hype that was a terrible display but we still should have won and sad to say but JT should hang up his boots as the poor guy is done.
QosLoyal
QUOTE (kirkyblue2 @ Aug 2 2008, 21:35) *
Don't be too hard on yourself, the guy's a chump but maybe someone will pull him to one side and point out the errors of his ways, a bit like last season 'cos there aint no hiding places now.
After all the hype that was a terrible display but we still should have won and sad to say but JT should hang up his boots as the poor guy is done.


bloody hell talk about over-reacting, calm down its 1 game into the season man lets see were we are after the first qaurter then mibbe its time to make judgments
kirkyblue2
QUOTE (QosLoyal @ Aug 2 2008, 21:40) *
bloody hell talk about over-reacting, calm down its 1 game into the season man lets see were we are after the first qaurter then mibbe its time to make judgments

The 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 or whatever the hell he's trying to do will not work in league games as some pointed out before this game neither will aimless hoofs up the park so we need to get it sorted now before the UEFA cup or we may be humped stupid.
QosLoyal
QUOTE (kirkyblue2 @ Aug 2 2008, 21:51) *
The 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 or whatever the hell he's trying to do will not work in league games as some pointed out before this game neither will aimless hoofs up the park so we need to get it sorted now before the UEFA cup or we may be humped stupid.



yeah we need to go back to 4-4-2 for next week, hopefully wee bob will be back and jamie adams aswell.
QOS 1970
QUOTE (Nobby @ Aug 2 2008, 18:24) *
To be honest being happy with a 0-0 draw at QOTS is not where any Airdrie fan wants our team to be, but unfortunately that is where we are.

And in that spirit todays result was pretty decent.
Of course you should be happy with a point.You were away from home and up against a bigger side than your selfs.
kirkyblue2
QUOTE (QosLoyal @ Aug 2 2008, 21:56) *
yeah we need to go back to 4-4-2 for next week, hopefully wee bob will be back and jamie adams aswell.

Maybe Chisholm will work it out before November, wasn't too quick last season.
Toby Fair
QUOTE (QOS 1970 @ Aug 2 2008, 21:59) *
Of course you should be happy with a point.You were away from home and up against a bigger side than your selfs.


Yes but in fairness, Airdrie (in a previous guise) have historically been bigger than us. As recently as the nineties they reached two Scottish Cup finals and qualified for Europe. They've also spent a fair bit of time during recent decades in the top flight, so their current status - although it could be a lot worse - is well down on fairly recent history.
That's all the guy means.

Too many of us are indeed starting to sound like Dundee or St Mirren followers. It's not a comfortable situation.
weigh cider
QUOTE (19QOS19 @ Aug 2 2008, 19:21) *
Close your mouth and start talking out your arse. Oh Wait!

The reason I questioned why that guy said Sadly was because Airdrie did nothing today except defence and got one lucky break. QoS were poor but had they played to their potential they would have ripped Airdrie to shreds, that's not being cocky mate that's a fact! Airdrie have got a long season ahead, we have more quality but never used it today.

I never mentioned last season in my post, but if some Airdrie fans think that they deserved anything more than a point today they have lost the plot!


The Dumfries Show was on in town today while the Dumfries NO Show was attended by approx 3000 of us at Palmerston. Well the tackles from JT and especially that tosser Tosh were pretty agricultural laugh.gif

TBH thought Queens were very ordinary and resorted to long punts up the park for the vast majority of the game. I was delighted with the way our defence thwarted the much vaunted 'threat'?? of O'Connor and Dobbie and I can't even remember Robbo having a save of any note to make all game.

On that performance if we are relegation candidates then Queens will be in the mix at that end of the table as well.

Thought we played some decent football when we were able to press forward but the final ball was somewhat lacking.

Ah well Plastic Whistle next weekend and hopeefully this performance will bring out a few of those lapsed fans who opted out of our year in the seaside league
QosLoyal
on a sidenote, why was airdries no.4(i think) booked after tosh hauled him down? strange decision
cb_diamond
QUOTE (Toby Fair @ Aug 2 2008, 22:08) *
Yes but in fairness, Airdrie (in a previous guise) have historically been bigger than us. As recently as the nineties they reached two Scottish Cup finals and qualified for Europe. They've also spent a fair bit of time during recent decades in the top flight, so their current status - although it could be a lot worse - is well down on fairly recent history.
That's all the guy means.

Too many of us are indeed starting to sound like Dundee or St Mirren followers. It's not a comfortable situation.


good post but im sure the ney'sayers will be along presently!
Shooter McGavin
QUOTE (QosLoyal @ Aug 2 2008, 22:28) *
on a sidenote, why was airdries no.4(i think) booked after tosh hauled him down? strange decision


He did the whole "jump and up kid on i'm gonna square up" thing so favoured on the football pitch.

The ref was poor, to many pointless free kicks given against both sides.

Re the game itself, have to admit I was a bit nervous before the game. Don't get me wrong, I never thought it was going to be the whitewash that so many others predicted. We are pretty good going forward and our defence looks pretty decent these days. Even our midfield is decent. Lack of experience showed today though, our oldest starting player with the exception of Robertson in goals was Di Giacomo at 26. Against more experienced players it showed at times.

We had the better of the chances, Di Giacomo had a few efforts and there was a couple of others. For Queens I thought Dobbie looked decent if a bit wasted in midfield, if he's playing their to accomodate Kean then thats a pretty poor decision to be honest. O'Connor didn't cause us as many problems as he has in the past but perhaps having to big centre halfs helps with that....

Cardle and McDougall looked dangerous on the wings and had we been a bit more adventurous and went for 2 up with either Lynch or Noble partnering Di Giacomo then maybe 3 points wouldn't have been out of the question. Given our current status as "whipping boys" though, maybe a defensive formation at a ground that has been notoriously poor for us in the past was the most sensible option.

Bring on the Thistle!
Palmerston_1919
very very poor performance. 4-3-3 will not work for us in this league, the sooner we go back to 4-4-2 the better, the stronger teams in the league will take us apart IMO if we continue with this.

We BADLY need a left mid and need to play Dobbie up front.

Any chance of starting a sweepstake as to who will be the first player to be attacked by a seagull at Palmerston this season?? biggrin.gif
southview
I thought for long spells this was a decent game and I felt a point apiece was a fair result.

Wasn't surprised to see Airdrie go with 4-5-1 and it worked a treat. A point at Palmy is a good result. I think most folk were tipping Queens to win so this result is a wee bit of a surprise.

You would imagine Airdrie will be more adventurous at home but I think performances like this at the likes of Dundee, Saints and Partick will be the norm.

As for Queens, I think GC's tactic of going with Dobbie, Kean and O'Connor is a classic case of trying to fit them into a team to keep them all happy - I think he is fitting round pegs into square holes being honest.

Queens were successful with a tried and tested formation last season that involved O'Connor and Dobbie playing up-front alongside each other. I think he has upset the balance of the team with this 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-3 or whatever it is.

Get back to what the players know which is 4-4-2. If he wants Kean in the team, leave out O'Connor and/or Dobbie. Three into two won't go.

Think today's result gives ammunition to the fairweather fans to stay away which is disappointing. You won't get near 3,000 on a regular basis on the back of this.

a_mac
Can't play with only 3 midfielders, Dobbie is going to be wasted sitting behind the the front two. 4-4-2 is the only option for us to go, it worked so well last season i'm not sure why you would change it?

Disappointing result, hopefully Chis learns from this performance.
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