With Gretna winning promotion four times in five years, which teams did not manage to play them in the League?

If any team missed playing them, did they get them in any of the Cups?

Thanks Jamie.

Think Dunfermline is one

Dunfermline didn't play them in the league but they did in the League cup

Brechin or Stranraer?

AFAIK the answer is Dunfermline, Arbroath and Brechin

And Berwick.
Dunfermline was a CIS cup match. We didn't play them in the league

Can any team boast a worse record than us against Gretna?

7-0
5-1
4-1
3-0
3-0

Stranraer and Stirling both got promoted out of Division 3 a year before Gretna managed it

Our record is almost as poor.

Second Division:

2-2 (last minute equaliser from 2-0 down)
3-3 (3 goals in the last 10 minutes from 3-0 down)
1-6
0-2

First Division:

0-6
0-4
2-2 (from 2-0 down within 75 seconds)
0-2

Thank fuck they've gone down the drain.

Cowdenbeath took a few spankings off them did they not?

Eight goals shipped in one game if I remember correctly.

So, of the 37 clubs Gretna played in league matches, how many other teams, aside from St. Mirren, did they fail to score against?

Definately never played Berwick.

We did get whipped 8 nil of them but we managed to scrape a 1 nil win once

They whipped us
3-0
5-0
4-0

But when we thumped them 3-0 at Raydale i'm sure that was the beginning of the end

We had a great record against Gretna...better than some of the SPL teams had against them last year.

2006/2007

2-0 to us at Gretna
4-2 to us at Airdrie
0-0 in the other two matches

undefeated and poetic justice .....if I could get the 4 scores to rhyme.

Annan Athletic

also Gretna

We beat Gretna more times than they beat us, is it only ourselves and Airdrie United that can claim that?

1-0
1-0
2-2
1-2
1-0
1-1
0-1
1-0
1-1
3-2
1-4
1-1
0-4

At a guess I'd say Forfar too - they had a pretty good record against Gretna. Stranraer broke even against them, 1 win each (ours clinched promotion) and two draws.

I think a few SPL sides can claim similar records too, and I'm sure some D1 teams had O.K records against them.

Of course, almost all SPL teams will have the upper hand. It's really just SFL teams I was thinking of.

Played twice at raydale losing the 1st game 5-1 and winning the 2nd game 2-1.

Played twice at station park winning one and losing one.

Dundee United hold the title of the worst record of SPL clubs against Gretna in the league P3 W1 L2

Hearts and K*lm*rn*ck have equal records of P4 W1 L1 D2 although if you want to be really picky Hearts had a better goal difference (+1) and K*lm*rn*ck an inferior (-1)

So Berwick had the honour of being the only club in Scotland not to have played them competitively...Still there's always the Scottish Cup with Gretna MKII

I doubt they will be eligible

Our record (as far as I know)

3rd division
a 1-1 (Gretna's first ever SFL game)
H 2-2
a 1-0
H 5-0

H 1-0 (LC)

H 3-2 aet (LCC)

2nd division
H 0-2
a 1-3
H 2-2
a 2-1

H 2-2 (SC)
N 3-0 (SCR)

Why?

As a *new* member they need to obey certain ground criteria - just being 'senior' is not enough.

Judging by the above I don't think Stenhousmuir ever played them competitively either...

Can't remember Arbroath ever playing them - think we swapped places when they came out of the 3rd.

who had the biggest win against them?

we pumped them 4-0 at reydale but dunno if they had worse in the pre Mileson era?

anyone confirm?

Their heaviest defeat was 6-0 at Hibs in the league cup the season before last.
Heaviest league defeats were 5-0 away at Morton in their first season, and 6-1 away at Inverness last season.

Heaviest home defeat was also to Inverness, 5-0 in the league cup again.
There was also a 5-1 at home against Derry City, and another 4-0 at home to Inverness in the league last season.

The best that Dundee can claim is that it was their heaviest defeat at home in an SFL game.

Stenny played them in the cup in 2003-2004, and in the league in 2004-2005 according to my stats.

You're right about Arbroath though. Can't read my own writing You have to forgive me. I grew up in Dundee!!!



What is the ground criteria for entry into the Scottish cup? Some of the South of Scotland clubs play on nothing more than public parks

Clydes record wasn't bad IIRC(Clyde score first)

Scottish Cup 02/03 Round 3
2-1 (A)
Scottish Cup 03/04 Round 3
3-1 (H)
Scottish Cup 05/06 Round 4
0-0 (H)
0-4 (A)
Scottish Cup 06/07 Round 3
0-3 (H)
Division 1 06/07
1-2 (H)
1-1 (A)
2-0 (H)
3-3 (A)

Clyde wins: 3
Draws: 3
Gretna wins: 3

Yep

4-0 at Raydale.
I'm not even going to bother with the rest of our games against them.

It was just my poor attempt at a joke...play on the word competitive...

I'll get my coat.

Our record v Gretna:

2003/04
Gretna 0 ICT 5 - Hislop, Bingham, Ritchie, Hart (2) - LC

2007/08
ICT 3 (Bayne, Wilson, Wyness) Gretna 0 - CL
Gretna 0 ICT 4 (Wyness, Cowie, Wilson, McBain)
ICT 3 (Niculae 2, Rankin) Gretna 0
Gretna 1 (Barr) ICT 2 (McBain, Cowie)
ICT 6 (Imrie, McAllister, Wilson, Cowie, Tokely, Vigurs) Gretna 1 (Hogg)


Aggregate score
ICT 23 Gretna 2


Bring back Gretna!

Clunk!!

Can someone pick up that penny for me

I'm an Ayr fan...My sense of humour was removed surgically a few years ago!!!!

As luck would have it, that was the only time I ever went to Raydale. Good day out, that was.

Motherwell played them three times winning all three...

2-1
3-1
3-0

...all SPL ties, we never got them in a cup competition.

Oh, and two of them were technically 'away' games.