Rangers policy of not signing Catholics was abolished more than 20 years ago yet a sectarian sickness still blights Scottish football and the city of Glasgow.

Large sections of both the Rangers and Celtic supports are bigoted ignorant scum.

Religious and terrorist chants can still be heard from both sets of supports, especially on their travels.

Many Celtic fans still hark on about the 'Old Country' and at best have an indifferent attitude to the Scottish national team.

Isn't it time this sickness in our society was put to bed once and for all.

Isn't it time to abolish the Old Firm and form 2 new Glasgow teams whose supports will not be drawn from 2 different 'tribes'.

Good topic. These 2 teams whilst not the cause of sectarian hatred in our land are certainly its focal point. Get rid of them ASAP.

i would say any team that is without sin in this respect should cat the first stone

so thats Hearts , Killie and Murderwell fans out of the eqation for a start

That is true. The Old Firm are not the cause of sectarianism in Glasgow. They are its symptoms and their existence has perpetuated the problem. The city of Liverpool used to have a worse sectarian problem than Glasgow. However, sectarianism is nearly unheard of in Mersyside these days, primarily because the 2 large football clubs there are not sectarian. As long as we have the Old Firm, we will have a sectarian problem in Glasgow. As you so aptly put it: they are its focal point.

http://lemming.mahost.org/classwar/orange.htm

Liverpool still has a sectarian problem

not as big as ours but is still exists

any large city with high unemployment and poor education will have a problem with youth disaffected youth joining groups or gangs

Liverpool has seen a rise in sectariona and racist violence in the last 3 -5 years

Liverpool's sectarian problems used to be a lot worse than Glasgow's.

Glasgow has never had the large scale sectarian street riots which were once commonplace in Liverpool in the early 1900s.

I recently came across the following Blog on Glasgow's sectarian gangs of old. I enjoyed reading it as I am from the East End.


http://brigton-glesjack.blogspot.com/2008/...on-brigton.html

Talking of Liverpool, I hear that the Orangies marched past Ned Kellys bar the other week where they w re confronted with rebel songs and abuse by some youths hanging around outside. A few scuffles took place.

At night, around 50 orangies/loyalists came back to Ned Kellys for retribution only to be met head on by double that number. Ned Kellys being where many of the Liverpool hooligans often drink.

what the f*ck has all that shit got to do with us ??

get over it you ain't our rivals and you never will be

I think you are missing the point. The Old Firm are the focal point for sectarianism in Glasgow. Everton and Liverpool are not the focal point for sectarianism in Merseyside. That is why today Glasgow has a much worse sectarian problem than Liverpool even though in the past Liverpool had a worse sectarian problem than Glasgow.

it wasn't aimed at your post Angela .. it was aimed at that stoat the baw Monkey heid

And my reply was aimed at Glasnost

oh kewl

What are yer other alias's ya mad bint?

Women+Football=Danger

I'm with you Angie.

This must rank as the most stupid thread in my brief 2 years on this forum.

I think they should abolish on-line polls that allow you to choose all available options.

I wish you and your other half (the hun) would f**k off and stop boring everycunt to death ...i would vote for that

The Rangers Celtic love affair.

Brothers in sectarian arms.

What would you do without each other?

No.
You can't abolish a club.

END.

Just after fixing it.

Abolish them just after fixing it. That makes sense.

because i have been at killie and heard yer fans singing the billy boys

and that wee ditty about being up to you knees in fenian blood

hence my comment - let he is without sin cast the first stone

and ps why the feck would i want to be the rivals of a wee diddy team from seaside land

it used to be a lot worse i agree

but it does not mean it has gone away and recently it has been on the increase

you said in your second post that in Liverpool it was almost unheard off

that is way off the mark

And why is there a 50/50 split between 18 votes when the poll says 17 votes?

Because someone must have voted for both options before I fixed it. Probably 'youroldda'

Angela....although I appreciate your reasoning to combat bigotry, may I suggest it would be easier to abolish the bigots instead of the clubs.

Much quicker as well and allows the more fair minded supporter to still follow his team.

You should remember not all OF fans are bigots....don't judge everyone just because of a few clowns polluting forums like this one!
Those bitter idiots have nothing better to do than massage the `chip` on their shoulders!

The problem is there are too many bigots attached to both clubs.

It is much simpler just to get rid of the clubs.

Do you honestly believe that one day there will be no sectarianism associated with the OF?

It is too deeply ingrained into the fabric of the 2 supports.

You really are funny. No seriously.

So who is it you support?

The Bigots or the Bhigots?

I've got a feeling it is the Bhigots.

They are very good at going into denial.

Neither. I support Celtic.

Next?

open your ears dafty we sing "Killie boys" and "up to our knees in Ayr blood" because wether you like it or not Ayr Utd are still our rivals and you lot never will be hence you and yer pals from Govan are not mentioned in our songs


have a good day

So my hunch was correct. You are a Bhigot.

It's all Rangers fault isn't it...

I heard Billy Boys and Fenian blood

maybe some of your fans sing a different version from unblemished you

and as i said why would i wish to be the rivals of a club that has won feck all since God was an alter boy and will will feck all for the rest of my life


have a good day yerself

Thats a ridiculous song to sing.

Why is it ok to be up to your neck in Ayr blood?Whers the boundarie between Ayr and Kilmarnock?What happens if you move from Ayr to Killie what happens then?Do Ayr supporters buy Seriously Strong Cheddar?

What is?

Sectarianism in Glasgow today. It has got nothing to with the behaviour, songs and chants of many Celtic supporters? Right?

What a strange interpretation of sectarianism you have. Are you related to Beyemystic?

trust me it wouldn't go down well with our support if those words were sung as a large portion of our support are catholics

Maybe. Who knows?

Have you got your head stuck so deeply in the sand that you can't see the bigoted behaviour of many of your fellow Celtic fans?

up to the early 70's it used to be "up to our knees in rangers blood" before Ayr Utd were our rivals

the thing is Ayr & Killie fans do not go around trying to kill each other ... its based on rivalry between the two main towns

in ayrshire ????

you must be bussing them in from outside areas

What makes you say that?

How do you know this?

I agree with the policy of abolishing the Bigot Brothers but not of replacing them with two new Glasgow teams, so I voted No.
Now I see the reason behing Salmond's multi-option referendum.

the older boys still brag about it

obviously you don't know Ayrshire then

How do you know that Ayr and Killie fans dont kill each other but old firm fans do?