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Telboy
which SFL1 manager would have the best pedigree to make the next level?
Dunning1874
McInnes. Seems to know what he's doing.
19QOS19

None to be honest.
LTP
This season is going to be an important one for both Jim McIntyre and Derek McInnes to show what they can do.
Günther
Surprised that McCall and Chisolm are mentioned. Both struggled in the SPL before.
Hebridean
Question has been asked slightly wrong, as in our case previous managers like the Promising Young Manager Alan Kernaghan have regarded a step up from Clyde to be any other team in SFL1 and needn't be to the SPL.

Feel free to post "But any other team IS a step up from Clyde". You'll have your moment of fun, but you'll be proving how much of a p***k he was. Where is he now anyway? Still teaching 10 year olds at Murray Park?

Hottentottentot
None of them, with the possible exception of Landi, who I've never heard of him.

McCall and Chisolm have already failed and Rae would be mince when not being able to outspend the opposition.
Tubbs
Rae was able to outspend the opposition last year.
Hottentottentot
QUOTE (Tubbs @ Jul 19 2008, 21:21) *
Rae was able to outspend the opposition last year.


Yeah, and it made him look an alright manager, if they did get promoted he wouldn't have the odds stacked in his favour.
Grant228
Jim Mcintyre
SavotheGreat
Another name your own manager thread.

McInnes doesn't have the experience; would have to be Raezor.

Edit to add: duh, no, it would have to be Chisholm or Raezor.
Dee4Life1893
Hard one to answer.

McCall & Chisholm can be written off right away as both failed at SPL level with money to spend. McCall more so. (Oh ye'll never win a derby Ian McC.....) I'm sorry.

Irons led Gretna to a record low points total for half a season. So, no.

Liandi we know nothing about.

Kenny Black & Adams ...hmmmmm ?? Obviously got their respective clubs promoted but would have to prove themselves at this level first.

That leaves Brown, McInnes, Rae & McIntyre.

Rae is the only relatively experienced manager out of these. I find the comments about him struggling if he had no money to spend hilarious given the fact we have NO!!! money to spend and we have less of a budget that St Johnstone and had less that Hamilton had last year. He is a good manager and I think he will manage in the SPL one day, whether it's with us or not I do not know.

McIntyre & McInnes both are entering their first full seasons. McIntyre seemed to steady the ship last season. Saints fans seem to like the way McInnes set about things when he took over. Obviously this season could make or break them both. McInnes will be expected to get Saints up. McIntyre will need to get top 3.

I actually voted for John Brown. Has coached for a while at Rangers. Somehow kept Clyde up. No budget whatsoever yet Clyde fans appear confident. If he can easily keep Clyde up I can see the likes of Killie or ICT sniffing about if they become detached at the bottom early on.



SaintSam
I don't think many of the teams in the SPL would be an attractive enough prospect for many first division managers to leave their clubs for. Certainly I don't think we'd be in any danger of losing McInnes to anyone other than the Old firm - unlikely, Hearts and Hibs - unlikely, or Dundee United for obvious reasons.
MTJ
IMO, none at this moment in time.
dee4life
QUOTE (SaintSam @ Jul 19 2008, 23:44) *
I don't think many of the teams in the SPL would be an attractive enough prospect for many first division managers to leave their clubs for. Certainly I don't think we'd be in any danger of losing McInnes to anyone other than the Old firm - unlikely, Hearts and Hibs - unlikely, or Dundee United for obvious reasons.


Stupid comment really,McInnes has not even been a manager for a whole season no spl team would want him at the moment.
Tubbs
QUOTE (Dee4Life1893 @ Jul 19 2008, 23:25) *
Hard one to answer.
and had less that Hamilton had last year.


Really.

Only because we had to pay out on our end of season bonus.
Dee4Life1893
QUOTE (dee4life @ Jul 19 2008, 23:47) *
Stupid comment really,McInnes has not even been a manager for a whole season no spl team would want him at the moment.


I agree, ridiculous comment.
SaintSam
QUOTE (dee4life @ Jul 19 2008, 23:47) *
Stupid comment really,McInnes has not even been a manager for a whole season no spl team would want him at the moment.


There's nothing stupid about my comment.I wasn't saying that McInnes would be one teams would be sniffing around if there was a managerial vacancy in the SPL. What I was saying was that if certain SPL teams came down to the first division looking at managers of certain first division teams, many of them wouldn't trade their current jobs because the ones on offer simply aren't that attractive. Much in the same way that players often turn down moves to lower SPL teams from higher placed first division teams. You really are not very bright.
dee4life
QUOTE (SaintSam @ Jul 20 2008, 00:00) *
There's nothing stupid about my comment.I wasn't saying that McInnes would be one teams would be sniffing around if there was a managerial vacancy in the SPL. What I was saying was that if certain SPL teams came down to the first division looking at managers of certain first division teams, many of them wouldn't trade their current jobs because the ones on offer simply aren't that attractive. Much in the same way that players often turn down moves to lower SPL teams from higher placed first division teams. You really are not very bright.


Look back on your last post and check what you said,then see who is bright.
SaintSam
QUOTE (dee4life @ Jul 20 2008, 00:03) *
Look back on your last post and check what you said,then see who is bright.


I have done, and I maintain there was nothing stupid in what I said. At no point did I say that I thought McInnes had the most potential to make the step up - whether you chose to interpret my post that way, I don't know. But that is not what I said. I don't expect any SPL team to come sniffing around McInnes in the way it began to happen with Coyle but much in the same way as Coyle, if they were to do so, I wouldn't be worried about losing him to most of them. Much like Dundee shouldn't - in theory - worry about losing Rae to most of them.
Yellow Army Faithful
If Coyle was still at saints i would be seeing accies or Hibs going for him likes cool.gif
Ric
QUOTE (SaintSam @ Jul 20 2008, 00:00) *
What I was saying was that if certain SPL teams came down to the first division looking at managers of certain first division teams, many of them wouldn't trade their current jobs because the ones on offer simply aren't that attractive.

With respect, I would say that any team in the SPL just now, with perhaps the Hamilton job being the exception, is a more attractive proposition than any of the SFL teams.

Killie are really the only club now in the SPL that have financial problems, the rest of the overspending clubs like Dundee, Dunfermline and Livi have now dropped out (you could also argue that Motherwell are one of those big spenders but they are back on an even keel). Every club this year has a good chance of staying up and improving their SPL status.

Unless serious money starts coming into the SFL then I just can't see how a job in the SPL wouldn't look more attractive.


Edit: My answer to the original post..

Chisholm, McCall and Irons have all managed at SPL level so they can't really be counted. McInnes, Rae and Brown have the "old boys network" about them with the Rangers connection, so perhaps they would get a shout due to who they know rather than how good they actually are.

Black and Adams need to get a team challenging for the 1st division title before they could be considered.

Landi is a complete unknown, well to me anyway.

McIntyre is the one, for some reason, I would keep my eye on. He's young for a manager, and has gone straight from the 1st team to management, and Dunfermline wouldn't have been an easy first club even for someone who knew it inside and out.
EdinburghLivi
McInnes.

He started well with St Johnstone despite the pressure following Owen Coyle's "successful" run at the club. He also played exciting football for them and humped us four times last season.


Landi seems to know what he is doing so I wouldn't immediately discount him but for now, he needs to show what he is made of in this league. He'll be managing in the SPL with us in a few years anyway so he shouldn't worry for now wink.gif


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