Upthebigshots
Jul 15 2008, 10:00
Anyone know the ins and outs of their clubs?
Bankieboy
Jul 15 2008, 16:17
Clydebank
Out - Gordon Lappin( Largs Thistle ), Paul Craig & James Lennox ( Rob Roy ) & Barry John Corr( quit for work commitments )
In - Gary Linn( playing in Australia ), Gavin Rushford ( St.Rochs ), Martin McIntyre ( St.Peters U-21 ), John Jack ( Beith ) & Andy Selkirk ( Campsie Black Watch )
Arthurlie1981
Jul 15 2008, 17:51
Arthurlie:
In: Stephen Anderson (Neilston), James Lundie (Auchinleck), Andy Wright (Harmony Row U21), David Craig (Dumbarton), Peter Shaw (Dumbarton), Derek Scrimgour (unattached)
Out: Brian Wardle (released), James Evans (Auchinleck), John Bradford (Irvine Meadow)
I think there maybe 1 or 2 arrivals still to be confirmed.
cmontheloknow
Jul 15 2008, 17:53
QUOTE (Arthurlie1981 @ Jul 15 2008, 18:51)

Arthurlie:
In: Stephen Anderson (Neilston), James Lundie (Auchinleck), Andy Wright (Harmony Row U21), David Craig (Dumbarton), Peter Shaw (Dumbarton), Derek Scrimgour (unattached)
Out: Brian Wardle (released), James Evans (Auchinleck), John Bradford (Irvine Meadow)
I think there maybe 1 or 2 arrivals still to be confirmed.
Aye, Boot McLay for one. Shinnies at the ready!
Arthurlie1981
Jul 15 2008, 18:06
TsuMirren
Jul 16 2008, 13:07
Derek Scrimgour (unattached to the ball as it flies past him)
Also remember watching David Craig playing for Dumbarton and he looked really good, fair enough it was against Queen's Park but he still put in a great performance that day.
FuzzyBear
Jul 16 2008, 13:21
QUOTE (TsuMirren @ Jul 16 2008, 14:07)

Derek Scrimgour (unattached to the ball as it flies past him)
Also remember watching David Craig playing for Dumbarton and he looked really good, fair enough it was against Queen's Park but he still put in a great performance that day.
Linlithgow Rose - in - Mark Robertson (Bonnyrigg), Mark Graham (Hill o Beath), Barry Donald (Albion Rovers) G.Livingstone (Celtic)
out - Greg Logan (Boness), Gary McGlynn (released), Euan Donaldson and Andy Dick (Camelon), Robbie Feeney and Greg Burnett (released), Brian Carrigan (Hamilton Accies on trial)
roseyposey
Jul 16 2008, 14:45
Robbie Feeney and Gregg Burnett are not released but available for transfer
coolio
Jul 16 2008, 15:28
QUOTE (roseyposey @ Jul 16 2008, 15:45)

Robbie Feeney and Gregg Burnett are not released but available for transfer
Are they decent, what positions do the play?
sponsorsladdie
Jul 16 2008, 16:54
QUOTE (coolio @ Jul 16 2008, 16:28)

Are they decent, what positions do the play?

They are quality. Feeny is a striker and Burnett is a centre mid when he played for Dundee Utd and played right back and right mid for the Rose.
cmontheloknow
Jul 16 2008, 17:08
QUOTE (sponsorsladdie @ Jul 16 2008, 17:54)

They are quality.
Why are they getting punted if they are quality?
In truth, neither played as many games as they would have wanted. Feeney knew where the net was but didn't do enough elsewhere. Burnett is a very decent player and I'd have liked him to stay at the Rose. However, there appears to have been question marks over his attitude and he didn't show face at the club for some time after the Uefa Cup Final. Whether there is a connection I have no idea but the rumour mill was on overtime! Both have the makings of good players at this level but they need a good run in a team. I think Fairley wants to make space for a few of his own signings.
They're keck, that's why they're being transfer listed.
sponsorsladdie
Jul 16 2008, 18:43
QUOTE (rrm @ Jul 16 2008, 19:39)

They're keck, that's why they're being transfer listed.
Burnett played well against you when we pumped you at yours. What a goal he scored!
Brig O'Lea
Jul 16 2008, 18:52
Neilston
Out
Chris Cameron to Glenafton
Sean McIlroy to Auchinleck Talbot
John Sheridan to Beith
Stephen Anderson to Arthurlie
Paul Harkins to Queen's Park
In
Derek Kennedy from Cambuslang Rangers
Mark Ferris from Johnstone Burgh
Fraser Chisholm from Cumnock
Chris Wozencroft from East Kilbride Thistle
pumphy_man
Jul 16 2008, 19:38
Pumpherston
David Blake(unattached),Andy Heeps(Previously with Blackburn Utd),Euan McCraw(Linlithgow Rose Welfare),Ryan Peters(Blackridge),Craig and Paul Leckie,Daniel Murphy,Lee Meekison,Jonathan Clifford(Previously with Murieston U21s.) Craig Stevenson(Previously with Uphall Station)
Out
Alan Dickov,Mikey Farquhar(broxburn)
Kenny Martin,Shaun Martin,Graham Baird(Hill of Beath)
Steven Maley is available for transfer at his own request.Any inquiries to pjfc1990@googlemail.com
I see that Maley might be getting signed by Cowdenbeath, he's still on trial there.
pumphy_man
Jul 16 2008, 21:24
QUOTE (rrm @ Jul 16 2008, 22:20)

I see that Maley might be getting signed by Cowdenbeath, he's still on trial there.
So will that mean we will get less compo if they sign him or is it still the same rules,ie signing on fee plus 40 times week salary.He still has a year of his contract you see.
cmontheloknow
Jul 16 2008, 21:39
QUOTE (pumphy_man @ Jul 16 2008, 22:24)

So will that mean we will get less compo if they sign him or is it still the same rules,ie signing on fee plus 40 times week salary.He still has a year of his contract you see.
The compensation formula only applies to
out of contract players moving to another
Junior club.
If he's
under contract then Pumpherston will set their own fee, and that's the case if the potential buyer is Junior or Senior. However, it is a balancing act. Maley could choose to sit the last year of his deal out, turning up week after week getting his wage (if applicable) but not playing because he's asked away. Sometimes clubs just cut their losses and accept a nominal fee. Also, a move to an SFL club is a move upwards. Clubs that make it hard for players to progress their careers might end up getting a reputation of doing so, and that could have a negative effect in future when it comes to signing players.
FuzzyBear
Jul 17 2008, 09:35
QUOTE (HTG @ Jul 16 2008, 18:59)

In truth, neither played as many games as they would have wanted. Feeney knew where the net was but didn't do enough elsewhere. Burnett is a very decent player and I'd have liked him to stay at the Rose. However, there appears to have been question marks over his attitude and he didn't show face at the club for some time after the Uefa Cup Final. Whether there is a connection I have no idea but the rumour mill was on overtime! Both have the makings of good players at this level but they need a good run in a team. I think Fairley wants to make space for a few of his own signings.
Burnett had potential but Feeney is hopeless. You cannot play football when you spend the whole game staring at your feet.
Bankieboy
Jul 17 2008, 13:10
QUOTE (Bankieboy @ Jul 15 2008, 17:17)

Clydebank
Out - Gordon Lappin( Largs Thistle ), Paul Craig & James Lennox ( Rob Roy ) & Barry John Corr( quit for work commitments ) Andy Kenna ( Cambuslang Rangers )
In - Gary Linn( playing in Australia ), Gavin Rushford ( St.Rochs ), Martin McIntyre ( St.Peters U-21 ), John Jack ( Beith ) & Andy Selkirk ( Campsie Black Watch )
guinness
Jul 17 2008, 16:47
QUOTE (Upthebigshots @ Jul 15 2008, 11:00)

Anyone know the ins and outs of their clubs?
according to sauchies website ; players in> dougie swan, andy traub, kevin connors, kieran grattan, stuart innes, alan kirkwood,les george, alan comrie, scott stenhouse, players out> lee black, barry thomson, scott wright. any info on signed grately appreciated?
QUOTE (guinness @ Jul 17 2008, 17:47)

according to sauchies website ; players in> dougie swan, andy traub, kevin connors, kieran grattan, stuart innes, alan kirkwood,les george, alan comrie, scott stenhouse, players out> lee black, barry thomson, scott wright. any info on signed grately appreciated?
Lee Black signed for anybody else?
Ronson
Jul 17 2008, 17:01
Sauchie signings: I think Alan Kirkwood was on LR's books very briefly maybe 3/4 seasons ago. If it's the same striker, he was signed by JS from a Linlithgow Rose under age side (no connection to the big side). The lad came on late in a game, scored a spectactular goal and disappeared completely from the squad. He was "farmed out" to one of the lower league teams in West Lothian and then eventually released.
Kelty Hearts
Players in Jordan Laird (Rosyth)
Craig Morrison (Rosyth)
Ryan Blackadder (loan East Fife)
Players out Andy Rollo (Ballingry Rovers)
Darren Seath (Steelend Vics)
No need for any major changes to be honest. All we need is for the defence to work more as a unit and we should do okay.
guinness
Jul 17 2008, 17:16
QUOTE (gogsy @ Jul 17 2008, 17:59)

Lee Black signed for anybody else?
sorry, no info on lee black. but who ever signs him will have to give him a jag to get him going!
pumphy_man
Jul 17 2008, 17:41
QUOTE (Ronson @ Jul 17 2008, 18:01)

Sauchie signings: I think Alan Kirkwood was on LR's books very briefly maybe 3/4 seasons ago. If it's the same striker, he was signed by JS from a Linlithgow Rose under age side (no connection to the big side). The lad came on late in a game, scored a spectactular goal and disappeared completely from the squad. He was "farmed out" to one of the lower league teams in West Lothian and then eventually released.
Alan Kirkwood played for Linlithgow before going to Pumpherston then he joined Armadale then went on loan to Stoneyburn,theres also an Alan Krkwood playing for Steelend i dont think its the same one though.
cmontheloknow
Jul 17 2008, 17:47
QUOTE (pumphy_man @ Jul 17 2008, 18:41)

Alan Kirkwood played for Linlithgow before going to Pumpherston then he joined Armadale then went on loan to Stoneyburn,theres also an Alan Krkwood playing for Steelend i dont think its the same one though.
Alloa local paper this week talking about Sauchie's signings:
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Also joining up is Alloa boy Alan Kirkwood who was a big hit with Steelend Juniors where he netted 28 goals. He also had a spell with Armadale.
guinness
Jul 17 2008, 17:55
QUOTE (pumphy_man @ Jul 17 2008, 18:41)

Alan Kirkwood played for Linlithgow before going to Pumpherston then he joined Armadale then went on loan to Stoneyburn,theres also an Alan Krkwood playing for Steelend i dont think its the same one though.
the website says it's alan kirkwood> steelend
monthelie'
Jul 17 2008, 18:05
QUOTE (TsuMirren @ Jul 16 2008, 14:07)

Derek Scrimgour (unattached to the ball as it flies past him)
The same guy who let Kenny Miller score 5 at Ibrox in a 7-1 defeat!
QUOTE (Arthurlie1981 @ Jul 15 2008, 18:51)

Arthurlie:
In: Stephen Anderson (Neilston), James Lundie (Auchinleck), Andy Wright (Harmony Row U21), David Craig (Dumbarton), Peter Shaw (Dumbarton), Derek Scrimgour (unattached)
Out: Brian Wardle (released), James Evans (Auchinleck), John Bradford (Irvine Meadow)
I think there maybe 1 or 2 arrivals still to be confirmed.
I thought there would have been a few clubs over this way interested in signing him. I
hope he does well for Arthurlie.
monthelie'
Jul 17 2008, 18:48
QUOTE (gogsy @ Jul 17 2008, 19:23)

I thought there would have been a few clubs over this way interested in signing him. I
hope he does well for Arthurlie.
Hope he has a good season aswel. He looked pretty solid when he came into the side towards the end of last season.
davidkennedyshand
Jul 17 2008, 22:46
Rumour down this way that Medda have signed Andy McLaren from us.
Arthurlie1981
Jul 18 2008, 19:03
QUOTE (Arthurlie1981 @ Jul 15 2008, 18:51)

Arthurlie:
In: Stephen Anderson (Neilston), James Lundie (Auchinleck), Andy Wright (Harmony Row U21), David Craig (Dumbarton), Peter Shaw (Dumbarton), Derek Scrimgour (unattached)
Out: Brian Wardle (released), James Evans (Auchinleck), John Bradford (Irvine Meadow)
I think there maybe 1 or 2 arrivals still to be confirmed.
Can now confirm John McLay (Cumnock) to the list.
Pure Mince
Jul 18 2008, 19:40
Heard Scrimgour had a bad back, hope you've no signed a dud!!!!
cmontheloknow
Jul 18 2008, 20:22
QUOTE (Pure Mince @ Jul 18 2008, 20:40)

Heard Scrimgour had a bad back, hope you've no signed a dud!!!!

He's been out the game for a few years through work commitments (copper iirc). Maybe Fabi's coaxed him out of retirement!
Arthurlie1981
Jul 18 2008, 20:46
QUOTE (cmontheloknow @ Jul 18 2008, 21:22)

He's been out the game for a few years through work commitments (copper iirc). Maybe Fabi's coaxed him out of retirement!
Quite a few Coppers in the team now (Fabi is a great source for players lol). Dont know about a back injury but he is in to push Peter Shaw and also provide some coaching. Branco, Fabi and Jimmy have done a good job recruiting for this season.
chef1973
Jul 21 2008, 10:19
QUOTE (davidkennedyshand @ Jul 17 2008, 23:46)

Rumour down this way that Medda have signed Andy McLaren from us.
aye an hes house hunting in ravenspark
fafc1885
Jul 22 2008, 16:32
QUOTE (Bankieboy @ Jul 15 2008, 17:17)

Clydebank
Out - Gordon Lappin( Largs Thistle ), Paul Craig & James Lennox ( Rob Roy ) & Barry John Corr( quit for work commitments )
In - Gary Linn( playing in Australia ), Gavin Rushford ( St.Rochs ), Martin McIntyre ( St.Peters U-21 ), John Jack ( Beith ) & Andy Selkirk ( Campsie Black Watch )
is that the same Gary Lynn that played for Forfar a couple of years ago
cmontheloknow
Jul 22 2008, 18:46
QUOTE (fafc1885 @ Jul 22 2008, 17:32)

is that the same Gary Lynn that played for Forfar a couple of years ago
Yep.
cmontheloknow
Jul 22 2008, 18:51
Updated West Premier transfers - all of these have either appeared on SJFA site (retentions), or on club websites (transfers) if not in media.
Arthurlie
In: Stephen Anderson (Neilston), James Lundie (Auchinleck), Andy Wright (Harmony Row U21), David Craig (Dumbarton), Peter Shaw (Dumbarton), Derek Scrimgour (unattached), John McLay (Cumnock)
Out: Brian Wardle (Neilston), James Evans (Auchinleck), John Bradford (Irvine Meadow)
Retained (futures tbc): Eddie Annand, Ross Ballantyne, Paddy Flannery, Steve Gallacher, Alan Shields, Gerry McLaughlin (2nd season retained)
Auchinleck Talbot
In: Ian Cashmore (Stranraer), James Evans (Arthurlie), Sean McIlroy (Neilston), Craig Pettigrew (Ayr United)
Out: James Lundie (Arthurlie), John Boyle (Bellshill Athletic)
Retained (futures tbc): Derek Barnes, Neal Gilmour
Beith
In: Andy Arbuckle (unattached), Brian McKeown (Pollok), Lee McShane (Glencairn), John Sheridan (Neilston), Gary Stewart (Bonnyton Thistle BC)
Out: John Jack (Clydebank), Stevie Jack (Renfrew), Stuart Allison (Clydebank coach)
Retained (futures tbc): Kevin Fraser, John Wight
Bellshill Athletic
In: Garry Fleming (Carluke Rovers), John Boyle (Auchinleck)
Out: Craig Brownlie (released), Chris Jeffrey (released), George Paterson (released), Lee Sichi (released), Davie Nicholls (East Stirling), Kevin MacDonald (Rob Roy), Bryan Felvus (Cumnock)
Retained (futures tbc): Rab Coulter
Cumnock
In: Alan Gilbride (Morton), Craig Menzies (Stenhousemuir), Joe Hayes (Glencairn), Bryan Felvus (Bellshill), Jamie McKenzie (Albion Rovers, was retained by Bellshill)
Out: Stevie Farrell (Irvine Meadow, Chris McGowan (Irvine Meadow), Fraser Chisholm (Neilston), John McLay (Arthurlie)
Retained (futures tbc): Simon Black, Jamie Moan, John Tinney, Robbie Weir
Glenafton Athletic
In: Chris Cameron (Neilston), Andy Ward (EK Thistle), Chris Fahey (Raith Rovers), Paul McMullan (Berwick Rangers), Dougie Ramsay (Irvine Meadow)
Out: Frankie Haggarty (Irvine Meadow), Chic Connolly (Irvine Meadow), Gavin Brown (Hurlford Utd), David Gormley (Ayr United, provisional)
Retained (futures tbc): Stevie Agnew, Derek Anderson, Mark Casey, Kevin Deeney, Jamie Doyle, Simon Eeles, John McCaig, Alan Morrison, Mark Quinn, Davie Stewart, Stephen Whalen
(Glens have not made public who of the above has re-signed yet, unless stated)
Irvine Meadow XI
In: John Bradford (Arthurlie), Chic Connolly (Glenafton), Frankie Haggarty (Glenafton), Stevie Farrell (Cumnock), Chris McGowan (Cumnock), Paul Hyslop (Pollok), Zander Ryan (Pollok), Chris Robertson (Ayr United), Kevin McBride (East Stirling)
Out: Craig Higgins (released), Billy Mason (released), Dougie Ramsay (Glenafton, Andy Essler (Pollok), Derek Wingate (Pollok)
Retained (futures tbc): Charlie Adams, Shaun Dillon
Kirkintilloch Rob Roy
In: Grant Anderson (Harmony Row U21), Paul Craig (Clydebank), Jamie Docherty (Renfrew), Craig Ferguson (Renfrew), Chris Gentile (Dumbarton), James Lennox (Clydebank), Kevin MacDonald (Bellshill), Kenny Haswell (Dumbarton), Anton Nugent (Dumbarton)
Out: Richie Chang (released), Davie Kirkwood (Yoker Athletic), Terry Magennis (released), Stephen McPeake (Kilsyth Rangers)
Retained (futures tbc): Paul Bonar, Paul Campbell, Clinton Maxwell, Greig McCulloch, John Paul McKeever, Mark Tamburrini
Neilston
In: Fraser Chisholm (Cumnock), Mark Ferris (Johnstone), Derek Kennedy (Cambuslang), Chris Wozencroft (EK Thistle), Brian Wardle (Neilston)
Out: Stephen Anderson (Arthurlie), Sean McIlroy (Auchinleck), John Sheridan (Beith), Chris Cameron (Glenafton), Paul Harkins (Queen's Park)
Retained (futures tbc): Tam Murdoch (released by Stenny - now 2nd season retained)
Petershill
In: Ross McCabe (Tower Hearts U21)
Out: Iain Muir (released), Colin McKenzie (Yoker Athletic)
Retained (futures tbc): Max Asante, Mark McVittie
Pollok
In: Calum Hardie (Lochee Utd), Andy Essler (Irvine Meadow), Robbie MacKillop (Dunoon Ams), Derek Wingate (Irvine Meadow)
Out: Brian McKeown (Beith), Zander Ryan (Irvine Meadow), Paul Hyslop (Irvine Meadow), Raymond Logan (Dumbarton), Gary Wilson (Dumbarton)
Retained (futures tbc): none
Vale of Clyde
In: none
Out: none
Retained (futures tbc): John Mathieson, Ryan O'Donnell, Andy Sim
davidkennedyshand
Jul 22 2008, 22:12
We only had Dave Gormley on trial from Glenafton.
Unless somethings happened i don't know about we haven't signed him yet as far as i'm aware.
Jimmy MCcabe
Jul 22 2008, 22:59
QUOTE (davidkennedyshand @ Jul 22 2008, 23:12)

We only had Dave Gormley on trial from Glenafton.
Unless somethings happened i don't know about we haven't signed him yet as far as i'm aware.
You should then , saw him a couple of times last season he looks a decent player.
cmontheloknow
Jul 23 2008, 07:48
QUOTE (davidkennedyshand @ Jul 22 2008, 23:12)

We only had Dave Gormley on trial from Glenafton.
Unless somethings happened i don't know about we haven't signed him yet as far as i'm aware.
Quote from Glens chairman John Timpany on his forum slot:
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David Gormley will join Ayr United on August 1st although the transfer fee looks as if it will be settled by a tribunal as club officials have described Ayr's offer as derirsory.
Sounds like a pre-contract agreement.
davidkennedyshand
Jul 23 2008, 09:11
Didn't know that.Cheers.
Glad to see Ayr keeping us up to date with things as usual
From what i saw of him in the frindly against QoS he is worth a shot.Certainly looked more mobile and threatening than Prunty in that game.
Harry Biggerstaff
Jul 23 2008, 10:08
QUOTE (guinness @ Jul 17 2008, 17:47)

according to sauchies website ; players in> dougie swan, andy traub, kevin connors, kieran grattan, stuart innes, alan kirkwood,les george, alan comrie, scott stenhouse, players out> lee black, barry thomson, scott wright. any info on signed grately appreciated?
Gratton's a quality player, centre mid who has been at rosyth for years (i'm sure he had a brief spell at east fife a few years back) and Andy Traub is a young, but big & strong centre half who was on celtics books before moving to clyde, cowdenbeath and on loan at dundonald last season. Stenhouse isn't great technically, but will kick anything that moves and not fun to play against, so should be a decent addition and I think he's gone as player coach.
Not a clue about any of the others though
QUOTE (guinness @ Jul 17 2008, 18:55)

the website says it's alan kirkwood> steelend
same alan kirkwood that played for pumfy and armadale.played for steelend last year
think he scored 28 goals.
the accieman
Jul 24 2008, 13:30
QUOTE (guinness @ Jul 17 2008, 17:16)

sorry, no info on lee black. but who ever signs him will have to give him a jag to get him going!

lee black had a unsuccesful trial with airdrie united 3 weeks ago.he is currently on trial with linlithgow rose he is also reportedly been watched by the barcelona scouts who have travelled with the first team squad to st andrews.
Larsson.
Jul 24 2008, 14:44
Ross Gunnion (Tayport) to Kinnoull.