Starting to come through now, seen Villa at 4/5 to finish above Newcastle which, as much as it pains me to say it, is as much of a certainty you could possibly have. Have also seen Everton 4/7 againts Newcastle.

Anybody seen any prices for the Scottish leagues yet?

Haven't seen any Scottish ones yet but like the look of Blackburn to beat Middlesbrough at 8/11.

What bookies? Nothing yet with my four - Bet365, Skybet, Laddies and PP.

Joe Coral's.

You can see them on oddschecker under special bets, although jennings bet have the Villa 4/5 price and they aren't on oddschecker.

Going to put a bit on Pompey to finish above Newcastle tonight before the 10/11 goes, Championsip prices now out as well, I like Ipswich evens v Watford but need to look at this further.

As gash as middlesboro are, I think Blackburn will really struggle this year and will just avoid relegation (due to the 3 promoted clubs all going straight back down)

Agree with DJP, Ince's signings and targets aren't exactly inspiring and I can't see Bentley staying either, they had been punching well above their weight anyway, bottom half finish.

Had £20 on Villa to win yesterday so spat the dummy and put £220 on Pompey to finish ahead of United.

For a second I forgot you support Newcaslte so when I read utd I thought you meant Man utd . Was thinking if that bet comes in you will be richer then QPR

laddies Dundee 5/6 St Johnstone 5/6 2008-08-02 15:00:00
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Queen of the South 8/11 Dunfermline evens 2008-08-02 15:00:00


Partick Thistle 8/11 Ross County evens 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Livingston 8/13 Morton 6/5 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Clyde 8/11 Airdrie United evens 2008-08-02 15:00:00

East Fife 8/11 Raith evens 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Ayr 4/6 Peterhead 11/10 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Alloa 5/6 Stirling 5/6 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Brechin 2/5 Queens Park 7/4 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Arbroath 5/6 Stranraer 5/6 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Forfar 4/6 Elgin 11/10 2008-08-02 15:00:0

Berwick 1/2 East Stirling 6/4 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Cowdenbeath 5/6 Stenhousemuir 5/6 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Montrose 4/5 Dumbarton 10/11 2008-08-02 15:00:00

Celtic 4/5 Rangers 10/11 2008-08-09 12:30:00

Falkirk 8/11 Inverness evens 2008-08-09 12:30:00

Aberdeen 8/13 Hibernian 6/5 2008-08-09 15:00:00


Hearts 4/5 Dundee Utd 10/11 2008-08-09 15:00:00

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Motherwell 1/3 Kilmarock 11/5 2008-08-09 15:00:00

St Mirren[/font] 1/2 Hamilton 6/4

Looks very very very tasty. May invest weeks wages on it.

I thought Brechin play Stirling?

I think these are season match bets, ie one team to finish above the other at the end of the season.

Morton to finish above Livingston at 6/5 looks good

That is a fucking cracking bet. Surely a certainty???

where are these odds from?

That settles it.I'm steaming into Blackburn.

Agreed,also like Hibs at 6/5 against Aberdeen.

Shire to finish above Berwick at 6/4?!?!?!

What company is offering the lower league odds?

I think you would have to be a nutcase or have a very good starting balance to even bother betting on these.

You are going to have to invest serious money to make this worthwhile, and you have to wait 9 months for your potential winnings. Count me out.

Snap!

I very rarely put anything on a bet that will take a season to pay out. Unless I was willing to invest a few grand (Which I am not!) then just see this as a poor book.

Cant wait for the season to start so we can all get back into the serious betting!

I think you have to be fairly confident in your knowledge of all the leagues. I have spent a fair amount of time trawling club and fan websites, jotting down players signed and opinions etc. I'm nowhere near blue's league but last season I did eight of these bets, all accas, three teams up to eight teams, and got six up. I did invest a couple of hundred and my profit on ante posts was £1407 but my week to week betting was rotten so my overall profit was, ahem, a bit less!

Edited to add: you may have been tempted by ladbrokes generosity last season - Dundee Utd v Gretna 8/11, Qos V Stirling 4/6. A few mad ones down south too.

I'd be quite confident I could get about 70% of my season match bets up and can easily see why it would be a good earner, but the thing that stops me doing is because of having the money 'locked up' for 9 months.

Investing profit in it is a good, sensible idea but I am perhaps a bit too greedy and look for more immediate success.

If you've got some spare cash and some good judgement, the money is better invested in good long-term bets than earning 5% per year in the bank.

Or maybe I'm just a nutcase?

I believe you fall into the 'good starting balance' catagory.

Unfortunately I defintely don't fall into the category of having a 'good starting balance', but none-the-less, I do like a good wee ante-post football bet.

I think Crewe on the Handicap (both Outright and e/w) are a decent shout. 18/1 for +24 points. They have made some impressive signings strikers-wise, and have signed a few defenders who have experience at this level.

Also, albeit it was only a friendly, but they did thump Hull 4-0 at the weekend, and it was Hull's first team. The abject performance first-half apparently prompted Phil Brown to make the maximum 11 changes all at half time.

Signing strikers like Elding and Zola, in addition to Nicky Maynard they already have, could make them genuine contenders for the title this season I feel.

Anyone got any fancies for the divisional match betting??

I looked at at ones on ladbrokes and have picked out

Falkirk 8/13 v Inverness
Dundee utd 10/11 v Hearts
Motherwell 1/3 v Killie
Ross County 1/1 v Partick
Brechin 2/5 v Queen's Park
Dumbarton 10/11 v Montrose
Pompey 4/5 v Newcastle
West Ham 8/11 v Blackburn
Peterborough 4/6 v MK Dons

Any suggestions as to why I shouldn't take any of those??

Coral and William Hill don't seem to have divisional match betting available.

Can you get those online or do you have to go to a shop?

EDIT: Got them online. Sadly, I think Alloa will finish someway above the Binos this season.

They look like good picks to me, I've included many of them myself in several accumulators. Shame Motherwell aren't a better price as that is a cert. Also recommend:

Aberdeen 4/6 v Hibs
Cowdenbeath 5/6 v Stenny
Charlton 5/6 v Watford
Wigan 5/6 v Bolton(was evens)

I was tempted to put Alloa in last night before I posted. I think I will remove Peterborough though!

At the moment I am looking at;

Portsmouth v Newcastle 1.80
Exeter v Barnet 1.83
Everton v Man City 1.67
Swansea v Southampton 1.83
Aberdeen v Hibs 1.67
Dumbarton v Montrose 1.91
Alloa v Stirling 1.83
Can someone please tell me why this is or isn't a good idea.

I like the look of the outcome of the bet, but not the odds

So far, all Everton have done is sold a good, fairly regular player in Johnson and not brought anyone in yet. Sure they now have £13m plus whatever money was going to be available anyway, but I'd wait and see who they sign.

Seems good to me! Especiall Pompey, Dumbarton and Alloa!

William Hill now have Scottish games on site

Stan James go 8/11 Motherwell v Hibs, another juicy one I feel.

Before Saturday's games I put £20 on

Falkirk 8/13 v Inverness
Dundee utd 10/11 v Hearts
Motherwell 1/3 v Killie
Ross County 1/1 v Partick
Brechin 2/5 v Queen's Park
Alloa 5/6 v Stirling
Dumbarton 10/11 v Montrose
Pompey 4/5 v Newcastle
West Ham 8/11 v Blackburn

and £3 on
Premiership - Chelsea 13/8
Drop - Bolton 3/1
W/O Old Firm - Dundee Utd 7/2
Div 1 - St Johnstone 2/1
Div 3 - Dumbarton 4/1

Just on totesport now and they have some interesting looking Player match bets for the Premier league, standouts include:

Gerrard 5/6 v Ballack 5/6
Tevez 5/6 v Anelka 5/6
Agbonlahor 5/6 v Bellamy 5/6
Santa Cruz 8/11 v Alves Evens

loads more on there, my favourite being Carew 5/6 v Benjani. I think there are some absolute steals available but I'm going to have a good look around to see if anywhere else has prices before listing these.

Edit have found Ronaldo 6/4 top Man U scorer.

Cmon Ross County 5 points behind Thistle already!!!

This 2nd bet is looking rather good for me!

Nice bump, I'm also doing well. Pompey should finish well in front of Newcastle, also have £100 on Pompey in a mini league with Blackburn, West Ham & Newcastle.

Got Agbonlahor 5/6 v Walcott, just £60 on but I think it's 5-0 so far.

£50 (£12.50) Trixie of Man U v Liverpool, Carew v Benjani and Yakubu v Crouch is only one slightly in balance, well the Carew part shouldn't be.

That last bet will be fine.

I did put this on, £2 4-folds, 5-folds, 6-folds and a £4 accumulator, total stake £130.

So far 6 of the 7 are winning, Alloa, the one that isn't winning, are only 2 points behind Stirling.

That bet is looking really good!

Portsmouth v Newcastle 1.80 1 point ahead
Exeter v Barnet 1.83 17 points ahead
Everton v Man City 1.67 10 points ahead
Swansea v Southampton 1.83 12 points ahead
Aberdeen v Hibs 1.67 4 points ahead
Dumbarton v Montrose 1.91 2 points ahead
Alloa v Stirling 1.83 4 points behind

I'm still sitting on 6 out of 7, although I am quite worried about Portsmouth and Alloa. The other 5 I am very confident will come in.

Newcastle will finish above Portsmouth. Maybe thats just my heart talking?

I've just got the one of these on for a decent sum, Ipswich to finish ahead of Watford, some on @ Evens and some more @ 5/6, as mentioned on other threads.

Also have a few pounds on Fulham v West Brom @ 8/11.


Looking quite good there mid-table, I bet you were pleased with Everton's last minute winner at Man City.

Too right, but it was totally offset by Newcastle beating Portsmouth 3-0 a few weeks ago.
I'm a bit narked I didn't have several thousand £ lying around in July, the Exeter to beat Barnet bet at 5/6 was an absolute steal, having seen Barnet pre-season it was an absolute stick-on.

You never know, an Arab billionaire might take over Barnet and go on a spending spree. Would be easier to make an impact in League Two than it is going to be with Manchester City anyway.

I wish I'd spent more time looking at pre-season bets. I'm very happy with the ones I've got, but didn't really look at the season match bets at all for League One and League Two.