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StewartyMac
QUOTE(dubya @ Oct 24 2007, 23:23) *
But they surely couldn't give you anymore than that give that you've already spent a fair amount (albeit not actually you) on Gordon, Jones etc.?


Aye, but other than Gordon, I'm no wanting the overpriced diddies Keane signed. laugh.gif

Bosmans it is!!
garymcc1874
So glad I didn't buy the game, and have un-installed it already.

Back to 07 for me. smile.gif
StewartyMac
By the way, don't suppose anyones found a logo/facepack for the English Prem yet have they? Sortitoutsi haven't got one yet.
The Minertaur
QUOTE(The Minertaur @ Oct 24 2007, 23:04) *
First season at Hibs just drawing to a close - just reached Scottish Cup final where I shall play Aberdeen in the final.

Got a good battle on with Rangers for 2nd in the league. 1 point behind with a game in hand. It will be close!


Managed to come 2nd in the league by a bawhair! laugh.gif

Then along came the Scottish Cup Final.....the game was destined for extra time and then Steven Fletcher scores! biggrin.gif

Admittedly it might have been a tad offside....laugh.gif

One sour note was right after the game the chairman accepted an offer for my start player James Wesolowski and thats him off to Sunderland. Thanks a lot sad.gif
Cabbage
Hibs won the Scottish laugh.gif Well played that man.
Mackie The Staggie
Beta Patch Discussion

Not yet a patch, but at least those serious bugs will be addressed as soon as possible. And from what I can gather, the Scottish leagues mistake will be fixed laugh.gif

It wouldn't be the final patch, but at least it's something.
Jambo Stu
Is it shit then? unsure.gif
St Miranda
QUOTE(The Minertaur @ Oct 25 2007, 00:38) *
Managed to come 2nd in the league by a bawhair! laugh.gif

Then along came the Scottish Cup Final.....the game was destined for extra time and then Steven Fletcher scores! biggrin.gif

Admittedly it might have been a tad offside.... laugh.gif

One sour note was right after the game the chairman accepted an offer for my start player James Wesolowski and thats him off to Sunderland. Thanks a lot sad.gif



How do you get screenshots.
The Minertaur
QUOTE(StMiranda3 @ Oct 25 2007, 08:55) *
How do you get screenshots.


You pray really hard......or you hit print screen, paste in into paint, save the document and then attach the file when making a post. cool.gif



and thank you Mr Cabbage - I was as stunned as anyone when Fletcher hit the ball into the net laugh.gif
GoTeamGaz
QUOTE(StewartyMac @ Oct 24 2007, 23:44) *
By the way, don't suppose anyones found a logo/facepack for the English Prem yet have they? Sortitoutsi haven't got one yet.


go into the forums
StewartyMac
If anyone's interested, you can get a EPL logopack here....

CLicky

(You need to register first though)
alba
QUOTE(StewartyMac @ Oct 24 2007, 23:15) *
Just taken over at Sunderland (running alongside my Albion game), and they've given me a transfer budget of £600,000 to stay in the EPL. ohmy.gif

I can see both seasons being somewhat tough.



Have you tried the budget adjustment thing in the boardroom? I did with Chelsea, more or less got the next seasons budget early.
StewartyMac
QUOTE(alba @ Oct 25 2007, 10:52) *
Have you tried the budget adjustment thing in the boardroom? I did with Chelsea, more or less got the next seasons budget early.


Aye, if I said I'd win the league laugh.gif , they were gonnae give me £900,000!! Hardly worth it for a certain sacking.
Kylesons
QUOTE(StewartyMac @ Oct 25 2007, 10:50) *
If anyone's interested, you can get a EPL logopack here....

CLicky

(You need to register first though)


Cheers smile.gif
Where do you put them into in the new game? I can't find a graphics folder.
StewartyMac
QUOTE(Kylesons @ Oct 25 2007, 10:55) *
Cheers smile.gif
Where do you put them into in the new game? I can't find a graphics folder.


Documents and settings>Sports Interactive>FM2008>db

Just extract them there,change the skin on your game (With screen cache unticked), and they'll be there. Then you can change the skin back again.
alba
QUOTE(StewartyMac @ Oct 25 2007, 10:54) *
Aye, if I said I'd win the league laugh.gif , they were gonnae give me £900,000!! Hardly worth it for a certain sacking.



If you've selected the avoid relegation option, you can then go into budget adjustments and take some of the money from the wage budget. You get £1.9mill in Sunderlands case, It was £35mill in my Chelski game. smile.gif
You'd need to sell someone the following season to raise more transfer funds though.
Bring Back Paddy Flannery
won the league by 10 points in my first season by 10 points cool.gif

played one game of the new season against alloa and drew 0-0 with the dirty buggers kicking three of my star men off the park.

managed to sign a good few in the close season including carcary from raith and james grady.

no bad for dumbarton.
GoTeamGaz
QUOTE(Bring Back Paddy Flannery @ Oct 25 2007, 14:16) *
no bad for dumbarton.


you'll be glad to know the sons face pack only has 4 players left (unless you can direct me to where the heck the 19s & 17s profiles went on the websire?)
should be up tonight
Bring Back Paddy Flannery
QUOTE(GoTeamGaz @ Oct 25 2007, 16:30) *
you'll be glad to know the sons face pack only has 4 players left (unless you can direct me to where the heck the 19s & 17s profiles went on the websire?)
should be up tonight

brilliant smile.gif shame half of those idiots are now losing on a regular basis in the reserve league for me.
LoonsYouthTeam
Just played it for the first time and I can't believe they've released this.

Played a friendly against Culter where it was fine first half but in second half the commentary wasn't matching what was happening on the pitch. It gave both teams a goal each on the commentary but they didn't count for the game. Then Culter are just awarded a goal without it being shown by commentary or on the pitch. Then at full-time it keeps going as if the game was still being played, I couldn't get out so had the quit the game.

Not happy mad.gif
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(LoonsYouthTeam @ Oct 25 2007, 17:07) *
Just played it for the first time and I can't believe they've released this.

Played a friendly against Culter where it was fine first half but in second half the commentary wasn't matching what was happening on the pitch. It gave both teams a goal each on the commentary but they didn't count for the game. Then Culter are just awarded a goal without it being shown by commentary or on the pitch. Then at full-time it keeps going as if the game was still being played, I couldn't get out so had the quit the game.

Not happy mad.gif


That's a fucking joke!

They need somebody else to bring out a decent manager game to compete with them, maybe that would keep them on their toes and not release software this buggy mad.gif

I don't expect the games to be perfect but some of the bugs this year ridiculas, I'm afraid to play it incase I really get into a game and it fucks up sad.gif
LoonsYouthTeam
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 25 2007, 17:11) *
That's a fucking joke!

They need somebody else to bring out a decent manager game to compete with them, maybe that would keep them on their toes and not release software this buggy mad.gif

I don't expect the games to be perfect but some of the bugs this year ridiculas, I'm afraid to play it incase I really get into a game and it fucks up sad.gif


Aye, I think I'll just wait for a patch before I start a proper game. They normally come out pretty soon after the game is out don't they?

Mind you, there's a lot more bugs to fix in this one.
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(LoonsYouthTeam @ Oct 25 2007, 17:15) *
Aye, I think I'll just wait for a patch before I start a proper game. They normally come out pretty soon after the game is out don't they?

Mind you, there's a lot more bugs to fix in this one.


A beta patch will be out anyday soon according SI forums

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/.../5222082453/p/4

rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
LoonsYouthTeam
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 25 2007, 17:19) *
A beta patch will be out anyday soon according SI forums

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/.../5222082453/p/4

rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


That's good then, hopefully just in time for a good 3 day weekend with Monday off for me biggrin.gif
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(LoonsYouthTeam @ Oct 25 2007, 17:20) *
That's good then, hopefully just in time for a good 3 day weekend with Monday off for me biggrin.gif


Long as it works dry.gif
Cabbage
Aye the patch is out now, the list of things it fixes is actually embarrassingly long laugh.gif

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Football Manager 2008 v8.0.1 (Build 112458)
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General
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- Supporter spokesperson's nationalities match up to their city of birth.
- Team-mates will no longer dislike each other for seemingly no reason.
- Reduced incidents of players having "Worried by lack of discipline" unhappiness.
- Players more likely to be unhappy at being harshly fined.
- News is now sent to the human if a reserve team friendly he has arranged is rejected.
- Supporter Spokespersons don't respond to job adverts anymore.
- 'Reject all offers' holiday instruction now works for draft pick transfer offers.
- Players do not gain a year of nation eligibility if they are returned from loan early.
- Players do not gain extra days of nation eligibility to their main team’s nation when returning from loan.
- Slight limits on morale of players who haven’t been at clubs very long.
- Non-EU Under 18 players can now move within EU countries if they are already in a EU country.
- Improved the code which chooses ethnicity of players with dual nationalities.
- Lowered abilities of virtual players in reserve teams.
- Stopped exploit which allowed multiple feeder clubs to be gained at once.
- Fixed "Ends with" Favourites filter on player staff search returning erroneous results.
- Stop recently retired players becoming part of consortiums in club takeovers at too young an age.
- Can now fine players for unprofessional behaviour / sending off again within the period of their last fine.
- Stopped cheat that allowed multiple feeder clubs to be gained at one time.
- For fixtures at neutral venues, sometimes the match odds would be swapped between the 2 teams.
- Made morale slightly lower for attacking players who are on a goal drought.
- Fixed the issue of too many players with just first name as common name (for example Portugal).
- Adjusted the non-playing attribute distribution for newgen non-players.
- Adjusted the starting ability and development of non-playing staff.
- Stopped players from occasionally disliking themselves.
- Tweaked Feeder Clubs selection (including reducing Irish feeders for British teams).
- Fixed expansions to stadium capacity being reverted when loading a saved game.
- Fixed seating expansions for non-professinal clubs when requested by the league

Finances
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- Adjusted transfer income percentages for financially troubled clubs.
- Enhanced the chances of a takeover when club is bankrupt for a long period.
- Fixed amateur team not to pay wages to managers.
- Fixed new sponsorship news item in some cases showing £0 instead of the real value.
- Fixed support for "remaining wage budget" imported from the database at the start.
- Fixed support for custom stadium rental fees set in the database at the start.
- Fixed sponsorships that had no value set in database (fixes saved games at the first monthly financial update).
- Fixed start and end dates for starting loans read from the database.
- Fixed club transfer and wage budget given to a new hired manager to match the ones in the news.
- Fixed transfer budget update with season expectation news when no multiple expectations to choose.
- Prevented human users from exploiting the budget adjustments and season expectations to boost budgets excessively.
- Tuned Argentinean ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Australian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Brazilian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Colombian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Danish general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned French general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned German general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Italian general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Mexican ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Norwegian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Peruvian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Russian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Uruguayan ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tweaked feeder club payments for smaller clubs and poorer nations.

Team Selection
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- Fixed issue regarding Gk's being picked outfield.
- Given staff members greater flexibility when rating players for squad selections / teams.

Crashes
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- Fixed crash if user retires whilst on the Jobs screen.
- Fixed possible crash when user accepted job offers from other teams.

Database
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- Fixed a problem with Finnish weather, it doesn't always rain now.

User Interface
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- Make available for reserves menu item was out of line with other options.
- The "Change User" menu would disappear in hot seat mode until the game was continued.
- Fixed bug where match split view panels would sometimes both default to Pitch view.
- Fixed some continue button text issues when a human picks 2 teams for matches at the same time.
- If a team scores more than 9 goals in a match, the match overview section no longer shows ".." for the goals.
- You can now view the knowledge sub-section of the scouting panel for teams without scouts
- Fixed bug where the match screen split view could show 2 pitch panels at the same time.
- Future squad selection rules which will apply to a team are now shown (greyed) on the team screen.
- Stopped situation where monthly calendar news would appear even if there were no important dates to be shown.
- Message saying a player or players couldn't be selected due to travelling to be with 'their squads' now references international squads.
- Draft allocations panel has now been moved of the Transfers panel on the team screen.
- Best Eleven screen remembers view when leaving the screen and returning.
- Fixed a bug in the squad selection rules error message. The list of invalid players was not getting displayed in full.
- Added status icon "PR" (Player Reaction) for player reacting to collective bonus decisions.
- Longest time at club record for a manager now shows correctly if the manager has been without a club for a longer time.
- Assistant manager team talk button is now hidden if a team does not have an assistant manager.
- Rows no longer disappear from the Award winners screen when players retire.
- Fixed bug where post match details would not appear properly sometimes when navigating away from the screen and returning.
- Portuguese players now get shown as being eligible to gain Brazilian nationality.
- Days to qualify for nationality do not increase for a country the player is not currently in.
- Fixed a bug where sometimes a cup draw would take place before the user had a chance to draw it themselves.
- Coach report screen remembers which coach you were using to get reports when moving between players.
- Fixed bug where user could make a sub during a penalty shootout.
- Fixed a problem where the user could attempt to create a new folder with illegal filename characters.
- When user changes the "Show Highlights In" setting in a match when a pitch is already showing, the new pitch panel will now appear properly.
- Fixed problem with continue game timeouts kicking in before the full time team talk has been given.
- Fixed problem that could cause new skins to not show up on the preferences screen.
- Fixed a problem with the injury duration description on the player profile screen for certain pre-game injuries.
- Players who gave gained a second nationality but remain in that nation no longer have an entry staying on their Days to Gain nationality panel.
- Added Tight Marking to view menu in the in-match tactics.
- Can no longer reject transfers that meet minimum fee release clauses via the transfer centre.
- Fixed a few club kit colours.
- Fixed a bug where the gk player instructions were getting replaced by an outfield players if a certain series of steps was carried out on the tactics screen.
- If no highlight is playing, the pitch section on the match screen is disabled.
- Next match button on match screen when viewing highlights now works correctly each time.
- Highlighted profile on team and player competition stats overview screen now uses stats for that competition not overall stats.
- When viewing highlights of a past match, the pitch action is now smoother.
- Changing "Closing Down" descriptions on player and team instruction panels.
- Updated horizontal scrollbars visible on Competition Tree view.
- Man of the Match and Injuries are now highlighted better on Match Overview and Match Stats sections.
- Fixed a rare problem where match screen would sometimes not allow users to go back into tactics after making a change.
- Fixed bug where coming out of tactics sometimes wasn't returning the user back to full match highlight mode properly.
- Improved star graphics to make it easier to tell the difference between each level.
- When viewing scout reports for specific assignments it now remembers the assignment when returning back from looking at a player profile.

Media
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- Golden Boot news is now sent directly to the human if one of his players is in the top three.
- Monthly player award news uses the correct stadium name if the player moved clubs at the end of the month.
- Award voting reminder news now states the correct voting deadline for Final Reminders.
- Total transfer spending record news does not repeat when monthly installment payments are made.
- Ensured correct stadium is used when news item mentions next fixture in managerial landmark news e.g 1000th game in charge.
- Can no longer appeal ban for two yellow card sendings off.
- Lowered threshold for judging cup shocks.
- Fixed scout next opposition "Comment on Dangerman" button taking you to the interaction screen with no dangerman comments just before the match.

Coach Reports
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- Fixed issue where you would receive a news item stating that a player had progressed well and then the coaches wouldn't comment on his progression in the coach report.
- Fixed issue when assistant highly rates virtually the entire team.

Contracts
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- Boosted the squad status expectations and wage requests of players involved in big money transfers.
- Put in code to help dissuade staff members from moving clubs shortly after signing a new contract.
- Players signed through a waiver draft do not sometimes reject contracts now.

International Management
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- Fixed news item saying player was left out of international fold when he is was injured and unable to be called up anyway.
- Fixed line saying players coaxed out of retirement were left out of previous squad.
- Fixed international manager attending the wrong game when a club had another match before the game that he elected to go and watch.
- Main, U21, U19 text on national pool now hyperlinks to the respective squads.
- National supporter spokespersons now have cities of birth.
- Ensure that, in the run-up to an international match, players for clubs who have fixtures re-arranged for the mid-week don't travel until after that match.
- Stop human international teams organising friendlies against teams who don't currently have a team enabled in the same age group. e.g. Bermuda U20s vs England U20s at game start date.
- Fixed message relating to player's other nationality when user asks dual nationality player to play more first team football to gain place.
- Stopped pre-signed players (who are too young to play for a club side e.g. Alexander Pato) being prevented from playing for an international team.

Scouting
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- Ensure that the min asking price is going to round greater than 0 before commenting on the likely asking price.
- Ensured scout's with high judging potential aren't as accurate when rating players for potential.
- Fixed issue when changing a coach's role to scout and he couldn't perform assignments.

Transfers
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- Stopped AI teams attempting to re-new loans when the player is unable to go on-loan to them because of the teams division loan rules.
- Players who have incorrect club join dates set in the database are now allowed to go on loan from Premier League teams.

Awards
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- Greek Club of the Year award is now given.
- Cypriots are no longer considered Foreign in Greek awards.
- Stripped out starting Award History's in games started without real players.
- Fixed problem where if all your own players dominate an award shortlist you would get stuck on the voting screen.

Competitions
============
- Stopped games been incorrectly called off due to international call-ups.
- Fixed clash between Champions League and South American World Cup qualifiers in 2009.
- Adjusted attendances for small clubs playing in cup competitions.
- Adjusted long term effects of fan days.
- Adjusted the attendances in intra-squad friendlies down severely.

International
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- Austria and Switzerland now play their group matches in their own country for Euro 2008.
- Denmark now play their home matches at NRGi Park until the 14th Oct 2007.

Argentina
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- Argentine Second Division History now recorded.

Australia
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- Improved teams Australian teams play in friendlies.
- Fixed conflicting squad restriction in 2014 and beyond.

Belgium
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- Stopped duplicate transfer round-up news item appearing for Belgian clubs.
- Belgian Cup Final is played at the Stade Roi Baudouin.
- Correct Second Division Playoff schedule is now used (all teams play each other home and away).
- 2nd to 5th position are used instead of the Period winners in the Second Division Playoff stage.

Brazil
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- Brazilian National Third Division history is now updated correctly.
- Added the Brazilian National First Division prize money.

Chile
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- Added correct transfer windows.

Czech Rep
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- Fixed promoted and relegated teams not matching up between the First and Second Division when a relegation position play-off is needed.

Denmark
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- Added 6 points deduction for Boldklubben Frem 1886.
- Saturday Premier Division game is now shown on TV.

Holland
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- Fixed some news item problems to do with the Dutch Premier Division playoffs.
- Fixed fixtures clashing with European fixtures.

England
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- Better TV game selection for FA Cup games.
- Mid-week games now kick-off at 1945.
- Updated the Setanta Shield prize money.
- FA Trophy Final is now televised.
- Johnstone Paint Trophy games now have games shown on TV.

Europe
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- Royal League now only gets referees from the participating countries.
- Royal League matches now cannot be refereed by an official from the same country as one of the teams.
- The two legs of the later cup rounds do not both get played on the same day of the week.
- Champions Cup group stage draw can now be viewed.
- Changed date of Euro Cup group stage draw.
- Fixed Champions League group stage win/draw prize money.
- Royal League now gets played in 2007 if the game starts in early 2008.

Hong Kong
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- Fixed user being able to sign more than 12 foreigners in Hong Kong First Division.
- Hong Kong First Division Reserve matches played in neutral stadiums of 4,000 or less.

Hungary
=======
- Fixed Hungarian League Cup winners not appearing in competition history.

Indonesia
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- Contract end dates are now set as 31st October.

Israel
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- Squad numbers now used in all competitions.
- 5 foreign players can now start in a Israeli Cup match.

Italy
=====
- Added this years Italian Serie C Cup teams.
- Applied -1 points deduction to 3 Serie C2 teams.
- Serie A teams that have their match postponed to Sunday should be playing at 3pm not 4pm.

Malaysia
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- Fixed foreign player rules for some competitions.

Mexico
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- Fixed bug where teams would sometimes get a Mexican First Division title added to their achievements for winning the playoff stage.

Norway
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- Added correct squad selection rules for the Norwegian Premier and First Division.
- All clubs in Premier and First division get under-soil heating.

Peru
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- Two teams are now relegated from the Peruvian First Division.

Poland
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- Cancelled the 10 points deduction applied to Polish Second Division side Odra Opole.

Portugal
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- First three rounds of the League Cup now use the correct seedings.
- Updated TV dates and times for the Portuguese top two divisions.

Scotland
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- Trialists can no longer play in cup games.
- Football League match day squads can only contain 2 trialists.
- Fixtures are now generated for the second season in all Scottish leagues.

Singapore
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- Fixed Singaporean League Cup record not being written in competition history.
- Add Random draws for Singapore Cup and Singaporean League Cup.
- Change of transfer windows for Singaporean League.
- U18 league matches now played at neutral stadiums with 1500 or less capacity.
- Singapore U18 & U17 team cannot sign foreign players.

South America
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- Teams from the same nation play against each other in the Copa Sudamericana Semi Final stage.
- Uruguayan teams now seeded correctly in the Copa Libertadores.
- South American Continental Cups now get correct referees for matches.

Spain
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- Implemented Cotonou Agreement for Spanish league - players from 79 ACP (African, Caribbean and Pacific states) countries no longer considered non-EU.
- Fixed bug where some players were not getting minimum fee release clauses.

Sweden
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- Pre-season no long starts on 24th December for teams involved in the Royal League.
- Changed the teams which move divisions When game is started in 2008.

United States
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- Foreign developmental players do not count towards the wage cap.
- Fixed bug where squad selection rules for certain MLS teams were not showing the correct maximum values at all times.
- Correct 2007 fixtures added.
- Allowed squad numbers up to 99.
- MLS teams can no longer sign foreign players from the PDL before they reach 22 or enter a draft.
- Fixed a problem with the American player rule for Toronto. Some players were being wrongly classified as Americans.
- MLS Rising Stars team is now filled with American players only.
- Players on free transfer with MLS rights have to be traded instead of being approached directly.
- Changed stage names of MLS conference playoffs.
- Virtual players now ask for developmental contracts by default.
- Improved selection of players from a draft. Teams make fewer passes.
- Updated maximum allowed wage $325,000 p/a outside of Designated Players.
- Fixed wrong teams in CONCACAF Champions Cup.
- Toronto foreigners now gain Canadian nationality not American if they stay for enough years.
- Fixed bug which was converting future draft allocations offered in transfers to 6th pick draft allocations.
- Toronto now get Canadian nationality youth players instead of American.

Assets
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England
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- Fixed Marvin Elliot / Marvin Williams picture mix up.

Match Engine Version History
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- Fixed bug where the match was treating the JTP North/South finals as the main final itself.
- When an injured player is also sent off, the game won't force the human manager to replace him.

Match v639
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- Re-worked marking and closing down to address conflict between the two - defenders should now close down better when appropriate.
- Further improved team reactions to cleared set pieces.
- Reduced delay between foul and whistle.
- But...allowed more advantages when prudent.
- Improved set piece positioning for free kicks and some throws.
- Fixed keeper occasionally kicking off new match period.
- Fixed another example of player kicking off to no-one.
- AI teams now add "back arrow" to def mid position for one MC if needed.
- AI teams a little more reactive to opposition pace when setting D-line.
- Small tweak to ease overcautious AI use of mentality slider occasionally.
- Made players take longer to accelerate all the way to full speed.
- Made blatant offside’s get called a little quicker.
- Enhanced effect on flair of "creative freedom" slider slightly.
- Fixed bug that would stop full back overlapping run prematurely.
- Improved smoothness of dribbling slightly.
- Players now look to run into space with ball better.
- Stopped a few unrealistic examples of poor first touch.
- Allowed players to take more first time shots when appropriate eg rebounds.
- Improved attacking positioning for certain formations that use "side arrows" on attacking midfielders.
- Improved attacking position of central "in hole" player.
- Stopped certain illogical forward runs being made from deep.
- Defenders put tackles/clearances in more appropriately.
- Biased aerial challenges slightly more towards those with higher jumping.
- Slightly less fouls when jumping for the ball.
- Reduced keeper effectiveness on close in shots slightly.
- Low team blend now has more effect on mental attributes.
- Allow more quick free kicks to be taken.
- Improved ball receiver AI slightly.
- Defenders caught wrong side of ball try to get back faster.
- Fixed defenders pushing up to edge of area when should be dealing with ball player.
- Improved player ability to deflect shots/crosses.
- Fixed defenders coming across and heading ball that team mate had covered.
- Tweaked decision making for ball player.
- Improved finishing for "bread and butter" chances.
- Improved accuracy of "bread and butter" passes.
- Further tweak to keeper kicking distance.
- Headers from descending balls now more likely to be looping in nature.
- Improved kicked clearance direction from defenders.
- Improved "subdued" goal celebration where scorer used to move a bit then stop still.
- Ball shadow slightly less pronounced in FM.

Match v640
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- Improved referee ability to try to "play the advantage".
- Fixed anomaly causing further problems with kick offs.
- Fixed AI subs when keeper sent off that could cause 2 goalies to be present.
- Another tweak to AI mentality setting.
- Made AI teams try to exploit 3 at the back without wingbacks by getting ball wide more.
- Improved positions at goal kicks.
- Improved corners sent to player lurking outside area.
- Improved use of channels to pass into and move into.
- Made first touch a little more realistic.
- Made players even more willing to run with ball into space when possible.
- And more likely to shoot in good positions.
- And more likely to cross in good positions.
- And more likely to turn before hoofing ball clear when necessary.
- Power shots more likely to go too high.
- Improved player perception of potential interceptions on pass.
- Improved direction of "flick on" headers.
- Improved code that decides whether player should pass ball around and keep possession based on directness, time wasting etc.
- Made "tackle clearances" more realistic in terms of distance and direction.
- Fixed anomaly that allowed potential clearance towards own goal when very close to it.
- Reduced instances of players dribbling ball out of play.
- Keepers more likely to follow distribution instructions.
- Keepers more effective on long shots.
- Fixed rare occurrence of keeper not taking up position for penalty kick.
- Improve defender marking on ball player running at pace with ball.
- Made players less likely to leave tactical shape to mark opponents when ball and player not in danger area.

Match v641
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- Fixed crash that occurs after player about to kick off gets a red card.

Match v642
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- Made sure free kick isn’t called back after advantage has been played for a sensible amount of time.
- Fix to stop players continuing to swap when option removed in tactical change during match.
- Fixed bug where slight injury isn’t reported when watching match in "commentary only" ( FM only ).
- Improved variety of assistant manager team talk suggestions.
- Made sure offside always called when player shoots for goal and has team mate standing well offside in ball path.
- Slight tweak to player match ratings to give them more range.
- Improved player run with ball AI.
- Improved full backs overlapping, and made their teammates more likely to try to pass to them.
- Further change to closing down code, as initial fix wasn’t quite coded correctly.
- Made players clear ball quicker under real pressure.
- Fixed bug where defenders might pass up obvious interception opportunities.
- Stopped players moving back into onside positions at unrealistically fast speed.
- Reduced pointless off ball runs that just made it harder for team mates.
- Fixed anomaly from pass vs interceptions decision making in 640.

Match v643
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- Fixed central defenders sometimes using closing down rather than marking against pace.
- Stopped AI managers playing too negatively when losing due to their sitting back attribute.
- Fixed interceptions not being recorded properly in match stats.
- Made defenders clear ball when under pressure in own area and ball bouncing at awkward height.
- Improved player decisions on when to tackle when up against player running with ball.
- Improved short throw ins slightly in terms of direction and speed.
- Made players a little more willing to shoot first time.

Match v644
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- Fixed match score divergence.

Match v645
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- Fixed advantage not being always played when fouled player gets clear of his assailant.
- Further tweak to closing down logic, to make it slightly more accurate vs slider descriptions.
- Made players work harder to get back to opponents who have gone beyond them.
- Fixed extremes of players not reacting for ages to ongoing play.
- Tweaked player choice of opponent to mark to include tactical position more.
- Improved direction of facing for defenders marking attackers in open play.
- Fixed bug in defensive line pushing to edge of area for team defending left end of pitch.
- Improved direction of defender who is chasing down attacker who is running with ball and has got ahead of him.
- Slight improvements to players decisions on whether to clear ball under pressure.
- Tweaked up pass accuracy a bit, especially when under no pressure.
- Made lesser players limit pace on pass to increase accuracy ( subject to decisions test ).
- Changed pass risk assessment to reflect mentality setting and flair a little more.
- Less hoofs up field to no-one when under no pressure, unless time wasting.
- Made players cross more willingly and also earlier when possible depending on instructions.
- More shots when in obvious good positions.
- Players with decent decision making less likely to dribble into trouble.
- Players more likely to get ball onto best foot.
- Improved first touch a little.
- Fixed bug where player sometimes moves really slowly with ball for ages.
- Made it harder to cut back ball dramatically when running down wing at pace.
- Improved logic of bias towards pass focus instruction when assessing passes.
- Improved off ball movement slightly.
- Stopped target men moving into channel so often when getting long balls to head.
- Players come to loose balls more aggressively, and try to intercept earlier in own danger zone.
- Attacking players also more likely to follow up on shots.
- Made keepers less likely to let ball go narrowly wide of post, unless extreme time wasting.
- Improved direction of keeper kicking.
- Less fouls when going for headers.
- Further tweak to make more early shots when under pressure or in good position.
- Made some headers on goal slightly less powerful.
- Stopped first time shots coming in from ridiculous positions.
- Made players come shorter at throws when thrower struggling for options.
- When player is selected to come to collect from keeper he comes deeper.
- Stopped one man walls on free kicks taken by keeper in deep position.
- Fixed possibility of play getting stuck when player with ball goes down injured.
- Tweaked player ratings back halfway towards pre v642 levels.

Match v646
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- Reduced shot accuracy slightly.
- Stopped players dropping deep to mark opponents instead of holding defensive line for an easy offside.
- Fixed bug where player may not react to short pass from keeper.
- Reduced players dallying on ball when being closed down.
- Made keepers more likely to clear lines from back passes.
- Players get back to kick off position quicker after celebrating goal.

Match v647
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- Assistant managers now always give a team talk recommendation when asked.
- AI now take comebacks from 2 or 3 down into account when deciding team talks.
- Players also take comebacks into account when reacting to team talks.
- Stopped centre halves getting dragged out of position too easily when NOT first man behind ball.
- Slight reduction on lengths of goal kicks.
- Keepers now more willing to come to collect such long balls into their own area.
- Further improved defender direction facing when marking non ball player.
- Fixed issue with defenders dithering over whether to continue marking player with ball.
- Further fix re confusion between closing down ball player and marking him from a strategic position.
- Fixed further instance of players taking ridiculous first time shots.
- Fixed rare occurrence of players controlling ball and moving a few yards with it stuck to their foot.
- Fixed bug where player who wins aerial challenge always recovers quicker than the player who lost out.
- Fixed bug where defenders would occasionally get skinned by opponent due to problem in code rather than lack of ability.
- Fixed bug where keepers occasionally miss saves for no reason.
- Tweaked number of shots going over bar.

Match v648
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- Fixed bug where assistant team talk suggestions may be illogical after a win


Data Editor
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- Updated award editing to support new award fields.
- Fixed problem with cursor in number fields on Mac.
Duracell Bunny
Patch is here
KnightswoodBear
this made me larf

QUOTE
Fixed a problem with Finnish weather, it doesn't always rain now.
StewartyMac
Save game compatible apparantly, but as I'd only played a few preseason games, I'll just start again I reckon. biggrin.gif
Mon The Clyde
Click to view attachment

Help sad.gif
StewartyMac
QUOTE(Mon The Clyde @ Oct 25 2007, 18:13) *


Looks like a problem with where you wanted it extracted. Did you choose a destination manually? It may be you've left out a '/' somewhere. Try it again, and pay close attention to the whole line of the destination.
Mon The Clyde
I put the files here;

Click to view attachment

I think it's some fault in my computer, it didnt work for 2007 either.
alba
MTC, I just clicked Steven's link then clicked Run. Seems to be working fine, No need to save it anywhere perhaps? unsure.gif
StewartyMac
QUOTE(Mon The Clyde @ Oct 25 2007, 18:19) *
I put the files here;

Click to view attachment

I think it's some fault in my computer, it didnt work for 2007 either.


What is it you're trying to extract? The patch isn't zipped, it's an exe. file.
XaaronPrimus
QUOTE(StewartyMac @ Oct 25 2007, 18:01) *
Save game compatible apparantly, but as I'd only played a few preseason games, I'll just start again I reckon. biggrin.gif


With the fixtures, how's that work then? Anyone found out yet?
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(alba @ Oct 25 2007, 18:49) *
MTC, I just clicked Steven's link then clicked Run. Seems to be working fine, No need to save it anywhere perhaps? unsure.gif


The file MTC is talking about isn't the patch but a picture update but they should have made this more clear wink.gif
StewartyMac
QUOTE(XaaronPrimus @ Oct 25 2007, 18:53) *
With the fixtures, how's that work then? Anyone found out yet?


The developers say they want people to get in touch to confirm if that very scenario works or not.

Clicky

Check Miles Jacobson's post at 16:40.
XaaronPrimus
QUOTE(StewartyMac @ Oct 25 2007, 19:00) *
The developers say they want people to get in touch to confirm if that very scenario works or not.

Clicky

Check Miles Jacobson's post at 16:40.


Mine generated, and my game loaded on the 4th of July.

If someone who posts on the SI boards wants to tell them that...


Bye-bye Dag&Red
Mon The Clyde
Aye, its this that I'm trying to extract. The patch was no bother.
The Minertaur
Just been told my fixtures for the start of next season. Have I dodged a bullet or will I not have any fixtures once the new season begins?
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(The Minertaur @ Oct 25 2007, 19:35) *
Just been told my fixtures for the start of next season. Have I dodged a bullet or will I not have any fixtures once the new season begins?


Looks like you will be okay smile.gif
The Minertaur
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 25 2007, 19:36) *
Looks like you will be okay smile.gif


Thank God - the laptop would have been needing a repair if it hadnt worked laugh.gif
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(The Minertaur @ Oct 25 2007, 19:44) *
Thank God - the laptop would have been needing a repair if it hadnt worked laugh.gif


I know the feeling laugh.gif

I've never had the problem myself but it looks like no fixtures appear at all unsure.gif hopefully the new patch has sorted this problem!
The Minertaur
Actually there is a problem with my game....a huge one.....England won Euro 2008! laugh.gif
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(The Minertaur @ Oct 25 2007, 20:00) *
Actually there is a problem with my game....a huge one.....England won Euro 2008! laugh.gif


A major bug, they should have went out in the quarter finals on penalties laugh.gif
Stu
Installed the beta patch and a few days later it generated my fixtures biggrin.gif

Delighted about this as I was very pissed off at the thought of a wasted season and not playing the game until the new patch. Fair play to them for making it safe game compatible.

Will post on the SI forums when it comes back to life.
Mon The Clyde
QUOTE(The Minertaur @ Oct 25 2007, 20:00) *
Actually there is a problem with my game....a huge one.....England won Euro 2008! laugh.gif

In my FM 07, in 2015 Denmark won the World Cup ph34r.gif
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(Mon The Clyde @ Oct 25 2007, 20:13) *
In my FM 07, in 2015 Denmark won the World Cup ph34r.gif


In 2015 unsure.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif
Mon The Clyde
QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 25 2007, 20:18) *
In 2015 unsure.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Hm, how about Clyde winning the Scottish Cup in 2010? tongue.gif
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE(Mon The Clyde @ Oct 25 2007, 20:26) *
Hm, how about Clyde winning the Scottish Cup in 2010? tongue.gif


2015 Isn't a world cup year wink.gif
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