Not sounding too great..again


http://www.theherald.co.uk/search/display....yr_sees_red.php

It's odd to read something which isn't propaganda from The Ayrshire Post.

Looks like it's the council that are to blame for the delays, but it's not exactly a new thing, SAC dragging their feet, is it?

Either the council or Barrat trying to cram in as many houses as possible


You just get the feeling its all going a bit Pete Tong.

Still theres always the possible bonus of another season at Somerset and completing 100 years there.Thats the only decent thing i can think of just now.

It does make you think though that if we don't go up this season we're gonna have to make cuts to the squad again if we're losing money.

I honestly can't believe it, I had my name down for one of those lovely corporate boxes as well

think of all the scroungers and the cheap cooncil hoosing that they might miss out on

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I'll build it myself out of lego and K-NEX. Easy!

Didnt fancy sitting in a souless one stand 'stadium' anyway.

i couldnt
agree more

Is it only supposed to be a one-sided 'stadium'?

f**k that for a laugh! Hopefully you stay at Somerset for a wee while longer...

.........HERETIC

Aye snap .... and being miles from decent pre-match pubs.

Since when did you subscribe to the gospel according to AUFC Neil?

They're everywhere.

Don't go home.

Run Eddie, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

Are Barrat's shares not down about 75% or something just now? Is there a chance of them pulling out this deal?

I quite fancy a flat on that site in a year or 2 come to think of it.

I have a bad feeling that they will pull out of the deal. That, or the project will be shelved until production costs decrease and the markets recover.

I suspect the conditional sale of Somerset was a binding contract. As soon as the council give the final go-ahead the club will commission the contractor to build the stadium (not Barratt).

I reckon the fortunes of AUFC are no longer linked to those of Barratt.

Surely if the second is to be the case then it wouldn't affect us in any way as the deal to buy the land has been done. If the former were the case then I would worry.

What we don't know is what exactly has been signed. If we already have the money for the land then we have nothing to worry about, except the coonsil dragging their feet.

Unless I am missing something the ins and outs of the deal with Barrat isn't public knowledge. The only thing that I was aware of was that Barrats wouldn't start building until we were ready to move. That doesn't necessarily mean that we haven't sold the land. It would be incredibly short sighted and stupid if the club were to sell the ground before we had planning permission...cue abuse of the Camerons.

Alternatively...have we done an Air-der-ee?

Now I am only saying it as I am seeing it, and others may know substantially more than me, but IMO there is a hell of a lot of panic at the moment. Perhaps that panic is justified, but just because you read things in the papers, it doesn't make it true.

Just because Barrats share price has plunged doesn't mean they are going to go bust. It only means they are not a good investment at the moment.

I'm not saying I am completely comfortable with the situation, but surely all this talk can only be bad. We all know that the journalists trawl these sites for their stories so surely a little bit of calm is needed otherwise well be reading in the Daily Retard all about Ayr United land deal is dead, Barrats are going bust because of it, Camerons have Asset stripped AUFC etc, etc pretty much make up what you like, and it'll be in the papers soon enough.

Unless of course it's all true then start to panic

Fucking glory hunting traitor.

Where are all of the stories coming from though?
They've been common knowledge around Ayr for a wee while now as have a few other stories that haven't made it into the paper.

My main worry is the way the cost of building has gone up and it was quoted at around £15 million for the whole development before that price rise.The price rise is only for the steel according to that article.What else has went up along with it?Other costs may arise if building starts.

I just don't see how we can finance this thing without putting ourselves in serious danger.It's an ambitious idea..if it comes off.If it doesn't and something goes wrong..will we have a club?

Reading the article Lachlan seemed to be suggesting that the cost of the entire project has increased by £2 million. He then mentioned the cost of steel going up as being a contributory factor. I don't think it read as being the sole factor.

He may also have been taking a bit of licence with the £2 million figure in order to try and place a bit more pressure on the council.

It seems to be that we will only start phase two and phase three when the finance is already in place, therefore I don't think the club are going to be placed in a precarious position at any point. If the finance is not in place the phase doesn't get started - simple as that!

I think there's too much talk about Barratt. We have agreed a conditional sale of the land, the condition being all required planning permission is obtained. The article quotes that when final planning permission is obtained the finance is released. That suggests it's sitting aside somewhere as part of a contract.

Yeah we knew the money was there for the first bit when the bit of land at Heathfield was sold for housing along with Somerset.

What i'm wondering is if this finance will cover any additional costs like the £2 million(accurate or not)rise in cost and any further costs that may come up while Phase I is going up.Maybe you're right and the figure quoted wasn't just for the steel but included other stuff.

In fact i hope you are right.

So why haven't the club come out and said something along those lines to dispel all the scaremongering?

It was an investment for my son, so he could follow his local team.

Because they're trying to forge ahead with our final season at Somerset Park, sell Season Tickets, Buy Players, a 'New Begininng' and yet, all we get, are a group of HERETICS who think they know better.

I hear the latest money-making scheme will involve planting a stake in the centre circle at Somerset at which we will all be burned.

True believers will be charged 50 quid a time to watch. Must be able to knit.

That should raise, well, 50 quid.

If yesterdays story was in any way an attempt by the club to head off difficult questions being asked by shareholders at next weeks AGM, then they have as usual, made an arse of it. All they have managed to do is reveal some facts that they have been trying to keep quiet for a number of months.

No doubt the average shareholde will be more concerned about whether were going to play 4-5-1 at home next season, rather than looking at the financial shambles the club is in, and how it's goint to finance a £15 million and rising stadium project.

The worst ever attempt at smoke and mirrors I have seen in a long time.

So is it the worst ever or the worst you have seen in a long time? It cannot be both!

I'm far too outraged to make up my mind.

4-5-1, 4-3-3 or 4-4-2?

It's the councils fault.

Do you guys get an AGM every year ?

4-3-3 surely?

Aye, four in the boardroom twiddling their thumbs, 3 in the council offices doing not much more and 3 on the imminent building site drunk in charge of their drawing board.

Maybe because they don't want to talk to you and your mates

Nah, I'm not being flippant just trying to bring a bit of balance. I really hope this goes ahead but the longer it lingers the more nervous I get. Too many people are assuming it's a disaster though, I reckon, without presenting any facts.

Don't need to. A wee statement on the official site would do





You could turn that on its head and say facts are in short supply from the other side of the fence also

Who needs facts when we can just make stuff up?

Aye very good Whistle Blower.

sounds to me like typical politicians dragging there fucking heels as always and just making excuses. they always drag things out and take longer than what is necessary soley because they want to benefit from the deal. what wankers they should stop fucking about and let the club get on with it. hope you guys get the new stadium. only been to ayr once back in 2002/03 season on the first game of the season like us with brockville yous need a new stadium so sooner rather than later the club will have a new home

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Preparations already underway for the Ayr United AGM on Wednesday.

I just hope that the latest signing at Somerset isn't a Witchfinder General... he'll be a busy man.

I'm sure our chairman will be delighted to hear you took the story that way and will be hoping many more did the same.

Unfortunately, few of them will be Ayr fans as most of us know what you assume is actually b*llocks

Also, maybe you could explain how the council will "benefit from the deal"?

I'd love to pass it on to them as maybe it could help bring our council tax down

I think you overestimate the intelligence of many Ayr fans. I get the impression they think all is well.

More and more seem to be realising it isn't, Monster.

The way the board are going, they'll manage to convince everybody of that sooner or later.

I heard the council were meant to be giving ayr the final drawings/approval on thursday there, anyone heard anything?

Yup heard the same

I heard the cheeky sheep man was coming from blooperland with his fantasy chequebook and wonderful intentions in order to build us a hover-stadium that will glide gently over Heathfield as spry as a falcon.


HuzzaH!!!

I hear he also has Gretnas old April Fool story plans of a floating stadium off shore seeing as we're building on the old Newton Loch site.