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DarkBlue62
I cant wait for this to come in November. WEll i think thats when its out. The First trailer/footage of it comes out on 21st (Saturday). It will be on the 360 news slides. Canny fucking wait biggrin.gif . Im also really happy that its gone back to WW2 and the likes as i loved CoD3. If World at War has the same gameplay as 4 but in WW2 then i will be more than happy. Anyone else as excited as me? smile.gif
cityfan
Had no idea the next COD was out so soon. I'm still no where close to being bored of COD4. Not that excited by the going back to world war 2 stuff, i much prefere the Modern combat that COD4 covers.
DarkBlue62
QUOTE (cityfan @ Jun 19 2008, 01:42) *
Had no idea the next COD was out so soon. I'm still no where close to being bored of COD4. Not that excited by the going back to world war 2 stuff, i much prefere the Modern combat that COD4 covers.


Im not bored of CoD4 either. I will probably keep it even when i get WaW. I could play CoD4 all day. Well, i do laugh.gif
garymcc1874
COD 5 will be shite. smile.gif

Every COD after it will be Modern war, no doubt about it. Only problem this year was because it's 2 separate development teams making the games (Treyarch and Infinity Ward) and Treyarch (the shite one of the two) had already started working on COD5 before COD 4 was out. I'm sure if they knew COD4 would be as successful and popular as it is, they would never have went back to WW2.
DarkBlue62
QUOTE (garymcc1874 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:32) *
COD 5 will be shite. smile.gif

Every COD after it will be Modern war, no doubt about it. Only problem this year was because it's 2 separate development teams making the games (Treyarch and Infinity Ward) and Treyarch (the shite one of the two) had already started working on COD5 before COD 4 was out. I'm sure if they knew COD4 would be as successful and popular as it is, they would never have went back to WW2.



They have taken 2 years to make it tho so it aint going to be shite. Just you wait wink.gif
StandFree03
QUOTE (garymcc1874 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:32) *
COD 5 will be shite. smile.gif

Every COD after it will be Modern war, no doubt about it. Only problem this year was because it's 2 separate development teams making the games (Treyarch and Infinity Ward) and Treyarch (the shite one of the two) had already started working on COD5 before COD 4 was out. I'm sure if they knew COD4 would be as successful and popular as it is, they would never have went back to WW2.


Yeah, I heard that it's done by two seperate teams. I used to like CoD3 until I got 4. CoD3 looks absolutely shite in comparison now, the gameplay of 4 online is absolutely unrivalled.

They should just leave the WWII stuff for a while, the modern warfare is excellent.
StandFree03
QUOTE (DarkBlue62 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:35) *
They have taken 2 years to make it tho so it aint going to be shite. Just you wait wink.gif


How long did it take to make Driver 3?

DarkBlue62
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 19 2008, 04:30) *
How long did it take to make Driver 3?


Driver 3, f**k knows. Driver was a shite game! laugh.gif
djchapsticks
Quite peeved at the prospect of it being a WWII game. Modern Warfare was one of the best FPS's I've ever played and the setting played a huge part in that.

If they really had to take a step back to the past, couldn't they have set it in 'Nam or something? That would have been far more interesting than yet another fucking WWII game.
McMuffin
Its going to be Championship Manager.
Ric
I've always been a fan of WW2 games for one main reasons, the weapons. It gives a greater level of skill to take someone down with a KAR single shot rifle than it does a M5. Modern weapons are too powerful, too easy to use and too quick to reload. While that might be better for a real life battlefield, it makes for a game slightly lacking in actual skill. It's one of the reasons I don't play Quake or UT online. I don't want a shit load of rockets I can launch without thinking or a laser that has no shooting distance or trajectory arc. In fact if they were to make a WW1 game I reckon I would like that even more.

btw, is CoD:WaW available on all platforms? CoD1 & 2 were, then 3 was console only, then 4 was all and I seem to remember an interview with IW claiming that they will be releasing ever second one as a multi platform game.

Oh, and before anyone says it, the ONLY way to play FPS is mouse/keyboard .. wink.gif

Millfield Marksman
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In fact if they were to make a WW1 game I reckon I would like that even more.


4 weeks of continually digging trenches might just change your mind. Along with the random chance of complete wipeout during a 4-day long artillery barrage by your own side
Ric
QUOTE (Millfield Marksman @ Jun 19 2008, 12:55) *
4 weeks of continually digging trenches might just change your mind. Along with the random chance of complete wipeout during a 4-day long artillery barrage by your own side

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No, I quite fancy trying to crawl through mud only to advance about 5 feet in a day then pinned down by my own artillery and having to take cover behind a dead horse!


findis89
I was a bit coubtful about COD4 being modern,but i was won over by the game play and just how much you can vary your weapons set.
The thing that does annoy me however is the way some people run around firing grenade launchers at everything.try shooting people with a bullet instead.
As for the new one,Ric is right,shooting someone with a single shot rifle takes a bit more skill than pray and spray type of people you get on COD4.
Seemingly on the new one you can use vehicles as well,so it bring a different slant on the game.
A ww1 FPS is long overdue though.Imagine the sniping you could do,along with trying to work your way over bombed terrain to get to the enemies trench.
looking forward to the new game when it comes out,
and Ric is right again( rolleyes.gif )a mouse and a keyboard are the only way to play FPS
Ric
QUOTE (findis89 @ Jun 19 2008, 13:13) *
and Ric is right again ( rolleyes.gif )


You say that like it's a surprise! tongue.gif

Got to say I don't like vehicles in a game unless you have, like Red Orchestra, different classes of soldier where some can drive certain vehicles. For example, in the real world you wouldn't expect the average squaddie to be able to jump into a tank and start driving, and even more silly start aiming/loading/firing, without any training.

The problem with vehicles is shown perfectly in the Battlefield games. If any c*nt can fly a plane then people spawn then run straight for the airstrips, take the planes, fanny about, don't help the cause, then get shot down or crash only for the cycle to repeat itself. And the player gets respawned quicker than the vehicles do. Plus if you have FF on, which I think all games should with automatic bans for mass TK's and reciprical damage for occasional hits which are unavoidable at times, you have people "defending" the vehicle respawn points against their own team mates.

UO (United Offensive) was probably about the best balanced vehicle game, although interestingly not a game (well, expansion) done by Infinity Ward, but Raven if my memory serves me correctly.
findis89
seemingly the vehicles are jeeps and half tracks.I think that it is more for the weapons on these vehicles ,esp. the heavy guns.
On the consul versions,everyone seems to know how to work Anti Aircraft guns,as part of the game though.
I see where you are coming from with the planes and such,hopefully they will not put them in.
This is my first go at FPS online though,and i am enjoying it.I'll have a look at some others though and see how i get on.

badger_whacker
Maybe it should be noted that it's not infinity ward who's creating the new Call of Duty so it'll more than likely not be anywhere near as good.

I hate these franchises who pass around games between developers.
Ric
QUOTE (badger_whacker @ Jun 19 2008, 17:32) *
Maybe it should be noted that ..



QUOTE (garymcc1874 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:32) *
Only problem this year was because it's 2 separate development teams making the games (Treyarch and Infinity Ward) and Treyarch (the shite one of the two) had already started working on COD5 before COD 4 was out.


Maybe it should be noted you haven't read the thread.. wink.gif


StandFree03
QUOTE (djchapsticks @ Jun 19 2008, 07:23) *
Quite peeved at the prospect of it being a WWII game. Modern Warfare was one of the best FPS's I've ever played and the setting played a huge part in that.

If they really had to take a step back to the past, couldn't they have set it in 'Nam or something? That would have been far more interesting than yet another fucking WWII game.


Couldn't agree more.

QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 19 2008, 09:58) *
I've always been a fan of WW2 games for one main reasons, the weapons. It gives a greater level of skill to take someone down with a KAR single shot rifle than it does a M5. Modern weapons are too powerful, too easy to use and too quick to reload. While that might be better for a real life battlefield, it makes for a game slightly lacking in actual skill. It's one of the reasons I don't play Quake or UT online. I don't want a shit load of rockets I can launch without thinking or a laser that has no shooting distance or trajectory arc. In fact if they were to make a WW1 game I reckon I would like that even more.

btw, is CoD:WaW available on all platforms? CoD1 & 2 were, then 3 was console only, then 4 was all and I seem to remember an interview with IW claiming that they will be releasing ever second one as a multi platform game.


Again though, do we really need yet another WWII game? One that's not even going to be as good as CoD4? We've had god knows how many Medal of Honour games and such pish.

How about Call of Duty set in the future....

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Oh, and before anyone says it, the ONLY way to play FPS is mouse/keyboard .. wink.gif


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badger_whacker
QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 19 2008, 17:58) *
Maybe it should be noted you haven't read the thread.. wink.gif


Maybe it should be noted that I have two lazy eyes and a lazy mind to boot. 1eye.gif
Ric
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 19 2008, 18:59) *
Again though, do we really need yet another WWII game? One that's not even going to be as good as CoD4? We've had god knows how many Medal of Honour games and such pish.

How about Call of Duty set in the future....

It's a fair point SF, but I will always vote for a WW2 game, over modern or futuristic battlefields. I just want to see them get creative with the WW2 scenarios. There's still not been a decent jungle based one (MoH Pacific Assault was God damned awful). WW2 doesn't have to be all about romping through the bombed French countryside.


StandFree03
QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 19 2008, 23:59) *
It's a fair point SF, but I will always vote for a WW2 game, over modern or futuristic battlefields. I just want to see them get creative with the WW2 scenarios. There's still not been a decent jungle based one (MoH Pacific Assault was God damned awful). WW2 doesn't have to be all about romping through the bombed French countryside.


Aye, I meant that a bit tongue in cheek I suppose about it being set in the future but it's something that could be looked at. As far as Jungle warfare goes, it has it's obvious limitations and problems.

You're right though, it's not all about romping through the French Countryside but we've kinda seen and done it all already (with varying degrees of success). What else can they do?

I just feel that CoD4 was a much needed overhaul for the series. CoD4 is also the only game I am still playing online since I got it, I absolutely love the multiplayer modes.
DarkBlue62
M1 Grand FTW cool.gif
Ric
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 20 2008, 00:11) *
I just feel that CoD4 was a much needed overhaul for the series. CoD4 is also the only game I am still playing online since I got it, I absolutely love the multiplayer modes.

Yeh, totally agree. CoD4 is a great game and I am sure IW were dying (no pun intended) to do a modern game, as they have been doing WW2 games since the start of this century (IW are some of the team who originally did MoH:AA). I used to play the Revolt mode in CoD1, and the Insurgency mod for CoD2, so I do like the modern warfare games, but as I said it's just the power of the weapons I am not so keen on.

QUOTE (DarkBlue62 @ Jun 20 2008, 00:12) *
M1 Grand FTW cool.gif

Garand .. rolleyes.gif ..now drop and give me twenty for you mistake!

Although more a KAR fan (edit: not the sniper, snipers are for wimps!) to be honest... one shot you better make it a good one as reload will take a while.
Robbo1873
I cant wait for this game! Modern War is one of my favorite games ever still play it alot, they cant go wrong with the new one surely.
DarkBlue62
QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 20 2008, 11:21) *
Yeh, totally agree. CoD4 is a great game and I am sure IW were dying (no pun intended) to do a modern game, as they have been doing WW2 games since the start of this century (IW are some of the team who originally did MoH:AA). I used to play the Revolt mode in CoD1, and the Insurgency mod for CoD2, so I do like the modern warfare games, but as I said it's just the power of the weapons I am not so keen on.


Garand .. rolleyes.gif ..now drop and give me twenty for you mistake!

Although more a KAR fan (edit: not the sniper, snipers are for wimps!) to be honest... one shot you better make it a good one as reload will take a while.


I just liked that when going through the story. 1 shot 1 kill usually. It was to hard to kill someone online as you would get sprayed by the thompson dry.gif laugh.gif
DeeJay35
Well here's the trailer guys..... Dont blink you'll miss it! rolleyes.gif

COD5 trailer
Ric
QUOTE (DeeJay35 @ Jun 21 2008, 12:32) *
Well here's the trailer guys..... Dont blink you'll miss it! rolleyes.gif

COD5 trailer

Heh.. the point of releasing that to the public is?

StandFree03
QUOTE (Robbo1873 @ Jun 20 2008, 11:53) *
I cant wait for this game! Modern War is one of my favorite games ever still play it alot, they cant go wrong with the new one surely.


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rw89
The only game i can actually think of which involves trench warfare during world war one is in the Darkness...and that was set in hell! laugh.gif
Grant228
QUOTE (wikipedia)
Gameplay

Swimming elements will be introduced to the series for the first time in single player and multiplayer. While in water, the player can not sprint and will only move at half speed.[4]

[edit] Multiplayer

World at War will feature cooperative gameplay (two players via split-screen or four players online) for the first time in the franchise. Vehicles, first introduced in Call of Duty: United Offensive, will return as well as new squad-based elements within multiplayer.[2]

[edit] Plot

One part of a level entitled Maken Raid shows an Allied prisoner of war being tortured by the Japanese before having his throat slit by a katana. The player's character witnesses this scene and is later rescued by US Marines who liberate the camp.[5]

[edit] Development

World at War will have a two-year development cycle, double that of Treyarch's previous title, Call of Duty 3.[4] The game will be powered by an enhanced version of Infinity Ward's Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare engine - improvements have been made to the physics engine and lighting model. Environments are now more destructible and can be set on fire with the flamethrower (which features propagating fire). Bullets can also cut holes in thin wood, making a gap big enough for the player to climb through.[4]

A full-sized replica PBY Catalina was constructed for motion capture use.[4]



IMO i wold have prefered it if it had stayed in modern warfare times...but then again i like the sound of the shooting through wood to make it bigger etc...and expect the flamethrower to become the "noob weapon"
Ric
QUOTE (Grant228 @ Jun 22 2008, 17:36) *
...and expect the flamethrower to become the "noob weapon"

Yeh, they need to make the flamethrower have a really slow reload rate and the backpack of fuel slowing the character down. Otherwise every c*nt and his dog will be using them. They need to be a tactical weapon not an offensive weapon.

Edit: btw, the flamethrower in RTCW was ace! Easily the best physics of a flamethrower in a FPS.
Grant228
And the backpack of fuel has to blow up when shot. smile.gif
StandFree03
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Swimming elements will be introduced to the series for the first time in single player and multiplayer. While in water, the player can not sprint and will only move at half speed.


Sorry, but that sounds dreadful. What's the point?

Is this supposed to be a reason to look forward to the game? laugh.gif
kris_FFC
What is the point in ANOTHER WW2 game? They are mince. The stupid thing has been done to death  mad.gif Another game like CoD4 would be superb, modern warfare is much more entertaining to be honest.
Robbo1873
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 21 2008, 15:24) *
rolleyes.gif

What?
StandFree03
QUOTE (Robbo1873 @ Jun 23 2008, 12:11) *
What?


You do realise that it's not the same people who are making this game that made CoD4?
Ric
QUOTE (Grant228 @ Jun 22 2008, 22:29) *
And the backpack of fuel has to blow up when shot. smile.gif

Yes! Ultimate realism. And how satisfying would it be to shoot a flamethrower in the back with a pistol and have him run around on flames? biggrin.gif

QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 22 2008, 22:36) *
Sorry, but that sounds dreadful. What's the point?

Actually, there was some element of swimming in some of the MoH:AA mods. It wasn't a bad idea and worked out quite well. Whether they can translate something similar and get the same result remains to be seen.

StandFree03
QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 23 2008, 15:02) *
Actually, there was some element of swimming in some of the MoH:AA mods. It wasn't a bad idea and worked out quite well. Whether they can translate something similar and get the same result remains to be seen.


Why why why though? Who gives a fuck about swimming in a FPS? It's essentially just a part of the game where you move very slowly and may or may not be able to shoot people. Big deal.
Ric
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 23 2008, 15:10) *
Why why why though? Who gives a f**k about swimming in a FPS? It's essentially just a part of the game where you move very slowly and may or may not be able to shoot people. Big deal.

Er.. multiplayer, big style! Swimming or the ability to duck underwater is a great addition to objective based gametypes. Not so sure about single player but it would add a touch of realism. Nothing sillier than being forced over a bridge when stream just a few feet deep is blocked off.

Edit: Far Cry used it a lot in SP, and it worked well then.
Bryan
CoD6 will be by Infinity Ward wink.gif
StandFree03
QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 23 2008, 15:21) *
Er.. multiplayer, big style! Swimming or the ability to duck underwater is a great addition to objective based gametypes. Not so sure about single player but it would add a touch of realism. Nothing sillier than being forced over a bridge when stream just a few feet deep is blocked off.

Edit: Far Cry used it a lot in SP, and it worked well then.


Aye because the first thing you should do when getting shot at is jump in a pond and hide underwater huh.gif

What a lot of pish.
Ric
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 23 2008, 15:38) *
Aye because the first thing you should do when getting shot at is jump in a pond and hide underwater huh.gif

That's totally trivialising the effect being able to use the water. I am guessing you haven't played clan before. Public servers maybe less so, but the ability to use the water adds a lot of strategic elements.

I really don't know why you are so against it. It seems a completely and utterly natural evolution in FPS, imo.
StandFree03
QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 23 2008, 15:42) *
That's totally trivialising the effect being able to use the water. I am guessing you haven't played clan before. Public servers maybe less so, but the ability to use the water adds a lot of strategic elements.

I really don't know why you are so against it. It seems a completely and utterly natural evolution in FPS, imo.


I'm not against it per se, I just fail to see how this sort of thing makes announcements like that. Oh goody, you can swim in water. Surely to god we should have been able to do that by now?

"Also coming to a FPS near you, a torch with a battery that lasts more than 30 seconds" ohmy.gif

Edit to add: I can't think of anything worse than a CoD multiplayer game where people are constantly jumping in and out of water to avoid your bullets. I thought they wanted to make this series realistic?
Ric
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 23 2008, 15:45) *
I'm not against it per se, I just fail to see how this sort of thing makes announcements like that. Oh goody, you can swim in water. Surely to god we should have been able to do that by now?

No, it's really not been introduced. For hardcore and clan FPS players that is a major addition of the game.

QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 23 2008, 15:45) *
Edit to add: I can't think of anything worse than a CoD multiplayer game where people are constantly jumping in and out of water to avoid your bullets. I thought they wanted to make this series realistic?

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Nobody expects to be able to do that. You seem to be thinking the extreme worst possibilities of adding in this, rather than actually considering the positives it could add.

However it does need to be implemented correctly. You should make a slight rippling noise as you enter the water and a noise when you come to the surface for a breath. You should still be visible in the water (depending on the daylight within the map) and it should be as difficult to get in and out of water as it is in real life.
StandFree03
QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 23 2008, 15:51) *
No, it's really not been introduced. For hardcore and clan FPS players that is a major addition of the game.


Fuck me, they must have some lives then laugh.gif

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Nobody expects to be able to do that. You seem to be thinking the extreme worst possibilities of adding in this, rather than actually considering the positives it could add.

However it does need to be implemented correctly. You should make a slight rippling noise as you enter the water and a noise when you come to the surface for a breath. You should still be visible in the water (depending on the daylight within the map) and it should be as difficult to get in and out of water as it is in real life.

I know. I just enjoy disagreeing with you.

I think they should also include pools of toxic sludge, Lava and a flying section.
Grant228
QUOTE (Ric @ Jun 23 2008, 15:02) *
Yes! Ultimate realism. And how satisfying would it be to shoot a flamethrower in the back with a pistol and have him run around on flames? biggrin.gif


Would be fantastic if this happened laugh.gif
Robbo1873
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 23 2008, 13:13) *
You do realise that it's not the same people who are making this game that made CoD4?

Aye so I hear, still think it will be a cracking game though.
DarkBlue62
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ Jun 23 2008, 15:58) *
f**k me, they must have some lives then laugh.gif



Oi, im one of them people sad.gif laugh.gif
finnersaintee
QUOTE (garymcc1874 @ Jun 19 2008, 03:32) *
COD 5 will be shite. smile.gif

Every COD after it will be Modern war, no doubt about it. Only problem this year was because it's 2 separate development teams making the games (Treyarch and Infinity Ward) and Treyarch (the shite one of the two) had already started working on COD5 before COD 4 was out. I'm sure if they knew COD4 would be as successful and popular as it is, they would never have went back to WW2.


there will always be a market for the WW2 part of history. I doubt after this game there will always be modern warfare CODs.
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