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Ghod
Dalai_Lama
That looks they have both hands up so not nazi salutes.

These twats have embarrassed themselves enough this week, you dont have to start inventing stuff.
Bloobell
QUOTE (Ghod @ May 16 2008, 23:01) *


Just three observations about that

1. They're pointing, not saluting

2. They're Zenit fans, not Rangers fans

3. You're a FUD

Next
Ghod
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Bloobell
QUOTE (Ghod @ May 16 2008, 23:14) *
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Just admit it was Zenit fans and close the thread you fukkwit
Ghod
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 16 2008, 23:16) *
Just admit it was Zenit fans and close the thread you fukkwit


I only see huns

That was the union bears in the 1st pic
Szamo's_Ammo
Why would Rangers fans do Nazi salutes anyway? The first set of people the Nazi's slaughtered were people, of their own kind, with mental and physical disabilities; like a lot of the knuckledragging Huns who recreate their salutes.
Ghod
QUOTE (Szamo's_Ammo @ May 16 2008, 23:45) *
Why would Rangers fans do Nazi salutes anyway? The first set of people the Nazi's slaughtered were people, of their own kind, with mental and physical disabilities; like a lot of the knuckledragging Huns who recreate their salutes.


Yeh it defies beleive tbh

They are proud to be British yet the British fought the Nazis

Doesn't make much sense
Germinator
QUOTE (Szamo's_Ammo @ May 16 2008, 23:45) *
Why would Rangers fans do Nazi salutes anyway? The first set of people the Nazi's slaughtered were people, of their own kind, with mental and physical disabilities; like a lot of the knuckledragging Huns who recreate their salutes.



It's a red hand salute.
Ghod
QUOTE (Germinator @ May 17 2008, 00:08) *
It's a red hand salute.


From a loyalist website:

Rule Britannia, Britannia Rules the waves, Britons’ Never Never Shall Be Slaves

They wont be slaves and rightly so. Brits, and Rangers fans in particular, should ‘never never’ be pro Nazi. The ignorant and uneducated fans who continue to taint the good name of Rangers by carrying out Nazi Salutes should be ashamed of themselves.

“Ahh, but its no a Nazi salute, it’s the red hand salute”

No its not, the red hand salute is non existent, and it pains me to say it, but the red hand salute is merely a symbol which fans embarrassingly hid behind to condone the support of Neo-Nazis within Britain’s shore. It's first appearance at Ibrox (I believe) in the 80's, coinciding with the introductionof the extreme right wing "Chelsea bootboys'" unofficial friendship with Rangers.
Terry Last, a soccer hooligan and a leading figure of both the head-hunters and the National Front, also played a role in the rise of this disgusting symbol and dragged England's national support to an all time low when he was pictured displaying the salute whilst "on tour" with England not long before his arrest and imprisonment in connection with his hooligan activities.
Following his trial Last was labelled "Little Hitler of the Soccer Thugs" by the English media.

Rangers Fans were recently up in arms when Celtic's Stephen Pearson clearly chanted IRA at a social function in Ireland whilst on club duty, we know he did it, and the media do too. We criticise the media for being one sided, well now its time to face facts – the Rangers support need to rid themselves of this disgusting salute, let's worry about our own house before we try and put others’ in order.
"People in glass houses should not throw stones"
If you see anyone, intentionally or unintentionally, contributing to the use of Nazi salutes within Ibrox, or any other ground where Rangers fans’ are in attendance, do the right thing and politely question why, within Britain’s’ shores’ are they saluting and displaying support for one of the most evil dictatorships in world history, that had they achieved there goal, would have destroyed Great Britain, a union which is sacred to many within our own support. Most probably, their reply will be, its not a Nazi salute, it’s a Red Hand. It's time to educate the uneducated, make it clear to the idiots that this mythical Red Hand Salute does not exist and it has no place amoungst a Rangers support that we are extremely proud of.
To ignore this, is to others- who need no encouragement to attack us an indication that we condone support for a regime similar to those which our current leaders are trying to rid the world of in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If they won’t take your word for it, tell them to ask an Ulsterman about a Red Hand salute – they probably won’t know anything about it, because frankly, there isn’t one. If that’s not possible tell them to go along a memorial service in November and to give their Red Hand Salute at the cenotaph, let them explain then that its not a Nazi Salute.

Worryingly this salute is becoming more and more evident within the younger bears. It is your duty, as a Rangers Fan to spread the word and protect our image which has been subjected to repeated and concentrated defamatory attacks from the media and anti sectarian organisations.
By all means possible fight for our reputation and challenge the unreported sectarian behaviour and pro terrorist songs from our rivals, but do so if you are sure that your own conscience is clear of any potential damage you have or will cause to your club and fellow supporters' reputation as you do so.

Remember - WE ARE THE PEOPLE , it is every one of our duties to keep it so


laugh.gif Red hand indeed
GeeJay
QUOTE (Szamo's_Ammo @ May 16 2008, 23:45) *
Why would Rangers fans do Nazi salutes anyway?


Cause it makes them feel big.
keeps01
Didn't the Nazis have a second home in Ireland during WWII? Sub bases and infiltration starting points to attack Britain and America?

Read a book !!!

Or watch discovery if you can't read.
kilbowie2002
I love that statement, the guy gets torn right into the nazis and then finnishes the statement with the obligatory racist 'we are the people' you really couldnt make it up.
Bloobell
QUOTE (kilbowie2002 @ May 17 2008, 11:40) *
I love that statement, the guy gets torn right into the nazis and then finnishes the statement with the obligatory racist 'we are the people' you really couldnt make it up.


WATP is racist now is it?

Guffffffor at your ignorance
Fizzy Gillespie
QUOTE (Szamo's_Ammo @ May 16 2008, 23:45) *
Why would Rangers fans do Nazi salutes anyway?


Because they're all BNP voting racists.
Bloobell
QUOTE (Sugarlips Dickson @ May 17 2008, 12:30) *
Because they're all BNP voting racists.


LOL, sure we are

BTW isn't anyone going to comment on the thread starter's LIES in posting a picture of Zenit fans?
StandFree03
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 17 2008, 12:40) *
LOL, sure we are

BTW isn't anyone going to comment on the thread starter's LIES in posting a picture of Zenit fans?


Good of you to come out of hiding, that was quicker than I expected.

So what's your excuse then? The Police? Trees not cordoned off properly? laugh.gif
Fizzy Gillespie
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ May 17 2008, 12:45) *
Good of you to come out of hiding, that was quicker than I expected.

So what's your excuse then? The Police? Trees not cordoned off properly? laugh.gif


the screen was deliberatley switched off as there were too many fans in the fanzone biggrin.gif
Hebridean
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 17 2008, 12:24) *
WATP is racist now is it?

Guffffffor at your ignorance


I wouldn't Gufffffor to much at his ignorance. It is, after all, a sectarian slogan - so no more acceptable than Nazi salutes or racism in my book.
Enw
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 17 2008, 12:24) *
WATP is racist now is it?

Guffffffor at your ignorance

Explain what We Are The People means if it's not a racial supremacy slogan? Is it a religious supremacy slogan?
the igzter
QUOTE (Paulo di Maccio @ May 17 2008, 15:22) *
Explain what We Are The People means if it's not a racial supremacy slogan? Is it a religious supremacy slogan?


It is neither religious nor racial.
Centre Stand Hero
QUOTE (Germinator @ May 17 2008, 00:08) *
It's a red hand salute.


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Kaz
Humour my ignorance then, what does 'We Are the People' mean? What are its origins?
the igzter
QUOTE (Kaz @ May 17 2008, 19:50) *
Humour my ignorance then, what does 'We Are the People' mean? What are its origins?


It means exactly what it says, no more, no less.
Gaz
QUOTE (the igzter @ May 17 2008, 20:07) *
It means exactly what it says, no more, no less.

Much the same as "the igzter is a cunt", then?
JUMPURS
Where does 'We are the people' come from and what is its meaning?

Surely it is only offensive if the subject knows to be offended. So it would do Rangers supporters some good to actually tell Tim's why they should be offended lol
the igzter
QUOTE (Gaz @ May 17 2008, 21:28) *
Much the same as "the igzter is a c**t", then?


Pretty much so, except I'm not and we are.
Szamo's_Ammo
We Are The People is a general term for anyone who supports Rangers that makes them above the rest of the universe because of the team they support. Quite amusing that they would condemn the scum who wrecked Manchester then stand up and generally proclaim one and all of them are 'The People' at the same time. rolleyes.gif

It's like something you could imagine Nazi's chanting at one of Hitler's speeches.
the igzter
QUOTE (Szamo's_Ammo @ May 17 2008, 22:51) *
We Are The People is a general term for anyone who supports Rangers that makes them above the rest of the universe because of the team they support. Quite amusing that they would condemn the scum who wrecked Manchester then stand up and generally proclaim one and all of them are 'The People' at the same time. rolleyes.gif

It's like something you could imagine Nazi's chanting at one of Hitler's speeches.


Why don't you start a petition and get it banned?
Szamo's_Ammo
QUOTE (the igzter @ May 17 2008, 23:17) *
Why don't you start a petition and get it banned?


I might do that actually. Good shout.

Know any good petition websites?
the igzter
QUOTE (Szamo's_Ammo @ May 17 2008, 23:27) *
I might do that actually. Good shout.

Know any good petition websites?


www.failtowininourlast5gamesandstilblamerangersfornotgetting
auefacuplace.com
Paco
I saw a Rangers fan on the BBC site before the match proclaiming "We are God's people!".

God must be a right arsehole.
Centre Stand Hero
QUOTE (Paco @ May 18 2008, 12:40) *
I saw a Rangers fan on the BBC site before the match proclaiming "We are God's people!".

God must be a right arsehole.


A small quote from Capt Matthew Roach (Jan 1916) - God has no chosen people, who would want a God who had. Sums it up nicely i think. wink.gif
Bloobell
QUOTE (StandFree03 @ May 17 2008, 12:45) *
Good of you to come out of hiding, that was quicker than I expected.

So what's your excuse then? The Police? Trees not cordoned off properly? laugh.gif


I don't hide Gaylord

I have no idea what happened due to the fact I was at the game when it took place so I can neither offer a reason nor would I wish to excuse what we've all seen

Jog on
Bloobell
QUOTE (Hebridean @ May 17 2008, 13:16) *
I wouldn't Gufffffor to much at his ignorance. It is, after all, a sectarian slogan - so no more acceptable than Nazi salutes or racism in my book.


Well your book is probably a Janet and John if you think that is why the song is sung
JUMPURS
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 18 2008, 16:51) *
Well your book is probably a Janet and John if you think that is why the song is sung


Can you tell us why then?
It seems many people are willing to say there is nothing wrong with shouting we are the people, yet the wont tell us the meaning/history behind it.
That would mean either
1. They don't know and follow on like sheep.
2. They are too afraid to admit to what it means.
guacamole
QUOTE (JUMPURS @ May 18 2008, 17:03) *
Can you tell us why then?
It seems many people are willing to say there is nothing wrong with shouting we are the people, yet the wont tell us the meaning/history behind it.
That would mean either
1. They don't know and follow on like sheep.
2. They are too afraid to admit to what it means.

It sounds a bit Nuremberg Rally to me, but I don't know the origin I must admit.
Bloobell
QUOTE (JUMPURS @ May 18 2008, 17:03) *
Can you tell us why then?
It seems many people are willing to say there is nothing wrong with shouting we are the people, yet the wont tell us the meaning/history behind it.
That would mean either
1. They don't know and follow on like sheep.
2. They are too afraid to admit to what it means.


No, can you?

In my mind it's no different to fans of almost every side singing about being the best supporters the world has ever seen, but a bit more original

Carry on dreaming up daft meanings for it though if it fits with your dumb agenda

No doubt you also think the bouncy has a hidden meaning, possibly The Bluebells are Blue too, but this says more about you that anything
Bloobell
QUOTE (guacamole @ May 18 2008, 17:06) *
It sounds a bit Nuremberg Rally to me, but I don't know the origin I must admit.


Of course it does, and you no doubt think those people in the picture are Rangers fans too

FUD
guacamole
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 18 2008, 17:15) *
Of course it does, and you no doubt think those people in the picture are Rangers fans too

FUD

That's how it sounds to me, I'm afraid. The people in the picture are clearly not Rangers fans, and your pathetic attempts to discredit me do you no favours.
Bloobell
QUOTE (guacamole @ May 18 2008, 17:19) *
That's how it sounds to me, I'm afraid. The people in the picture are clearly not Rangers fans, and your pathetic attempts to discredit me do you no favours.


OK then, you'll get all the credit in the world if you can prove to me that WATP is sinister in any of the ways being levelled in this thread

The floor is yours and with Google at your disposal it should be easy to find credible evidence
guacamole
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 18 2008, 17:27) *
OK then, you'll get all the credit in the world if you can prove to me that WATP is sinister in any of the ways being levelled in this thread

The floor is yours and with Google at your disposal it should be easy to find credible evidence

You could always rebut it by telling me what it is about....
stevenston saint
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 18 2008, 16:49) *
I don't hide Gaylord

I have no idea what happened due to the fact I was at the game when it took place so I can neither offer a reason nor would I wish to excuse what we've all seen

Jog on


Were you at the game yesterday though, as your account was logged on midway through the first half?

We thought you were hiding and observing from afar. rolleyes.gif
Bloobell
QUOTE (guacamole @ May 18 2008, 17:33) *
You could always rebut it by telling me what it is about....


Erm I don't think so dafty, that's like me picking a song of yours at random and saying it means something dumb whilst expecting you to prove otherwise

I think you'd best beat a hasty retreat if you have no evidence
Bloobell
QUOTE (stevenston saint @ May 18 2008, 17:36) *
Were you at the game yesterday though, as your account was logged on midway through the first half?

We thought you were hiding and observing from afar. rolleyes.gif


Nope, didn't have a ticket for yesterday and just so you know I'm in London this coming week so won't be at Love Street either

Hope that helps rolleyes.gif
guacamole
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 18 2008, 17:38) *
Erm I don't think so dafty, that's like me picking a song of yours at random and saying it means something dumb whilst expecting you to prove otherwise

I think you'd best beat a hasty retreat if you have no evidence

Which was why I said it was my impression rather than present my opinion as fact.
stevenston saint
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 18 2008, 17:40) *
Nope, didn't have a ticket for yesterday and just so you know I'm in London this coming week so won't be at Love Street either

Hope that helps rolleyes.gif



Part-timer tongue.gif
JUMPURS
QUOTE (Bloobell @ May 18 2008, 17:14) *
No, can you?

In my mind it's no different to fans of almost every side singing about being the best supporters the world has ever seen, but a bit more original

Carry on dreaming up daft meanings for it though if it fits with your dumb agenda

No doubt you also think the bouncy has a hidden meaning, possibly The Bluebells are Blue too, but this says more about you that anything


So you can't tell me what a chant is about? So you don't know or do i not know the secret handshake??

The Bluebells are Blue has no hidden meaning, it just shows how stupid rangers fans are at stating the obvious.
IXI THE ONE IXI
QUOTE (JUMPURS @ May 18 2008, 18:03) *
So you can't tell me what a chant is about? So you don't know or do i not know the secret handshake??

The Bluebells are Blue has no hidden meaning, it just shows how stupid rangers fans are at stating the obvious.



Isn't it this song:

We are the supporters,
Who sing of victory,
We'll follow Glasgow Rangers,
From Kilmarnock to Dundee,
We follow Glasgow Rangers,
Our hearts are strong and true,
WE ARE THE PEOPLE,
Who cheer the boys in blue

That is where I always assumed it was from, unless you know/want to make up something different?
JUMPURS
I don't know and i have no reason to make it up.

I was genuinely curious, no need for the paranoia.
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