It was disclosed at last night's 'meet the manager' event that Dundee made a formal complaint about the state of the Firhill pitch following their recent league defeat. Seems like sour grapes to me and, if they are suggesting that it gave us an unfair advantage, I wonder why they didn't make a similar complaint about Hamilton's field turf after losing to at NDP.

Just wondering what the rest of you think about this. Do you think your clubs should have done the same after recent matches? Will Morton's directors blame the pitch tomorrow if they lose and are condemned to the play offs?

Thoughts greatly appreciated.

This of course being the exact same pitch that Thistle had to play on as well.

A tattie field of a pitch suits Thistles football though, an advantage straight away.

Now if it had been Saints it wouldnt have mattered as there used to ploughed fields
Niz is this from a reliable source , cause my reliable source said we were rank that night. Enough said

Are you having a giraffe sunshine? Our team is feckin tiny and as a result we try and keep the ball on the deck. Yes the pitch is mince but I dont think its made too much of a difference to any game, just the odd miscontrolled pass here and there due to bobbles.

Keep Firhill for football then, if your players are all ball players why play rugby on the pitch the night before ?

Just hope nobody has any amateurs signed.

Considering we beat Hamilton 3-0 on it, when it was dry and in an even worse state because it was winter time, I hope they will register an official complaint as well.

It's only fair.

When we played Thistle a few weeks back the pitch was also in a terrible state. However it didn't stop us romping to a thrilling 1-0 win.

In actuality the game was incredibly shite. I got in for free for being 'under 16' (ahahaaha!) and even then I feel I was ripped off.

The point basically is that the pitch doesn't disadvantage the away team more than the home team.

Oh and even if Dundee did win this game, they still wouldn't have won the league. What a pointless complaint to make.

Ditto as that is pure conjecture

What do you make of the complaint Insight? Do you think it's valid?

Course he does. They wuz robbed!

I think Partick should be thrown out of Scottish football.

If the park had been in a fit state that night, Dundee would have won 17-0 before winning each of their remaining matches to clinch promotion. Next season's SPL title would have been in the bag, as well as the 2009/10 Champions' League.

They should sue for loss of future earnings.

I can remember accies blaming thistles pitch as a reason for us gettin beat against them this season, but we never lodged a complaint. pointless.

Hi Bob Brannan! *waves to Bob Brannan*

We would also have RETAINED the Champions League in 2010-2011, even more money.

Hmm, I don't think the Partick pitch is as bad as people make out. In our 0-0 draw a month or so ago, some of our fans made comments about it, but I thought it was okay. I think rugby had been played on it the week before.

Some folk either have forgotten or never seen some of the states of the pitches even about ten years ago, when some were lucky to have any grass at all in the 6 yard boxes etc. Come on, we have just came out of winter here, teams are not going to lay new pitches every three months, it's the Scottish 1st Division not the Serie A we are talking about for gods sakes.

Just like Dundee that night.

The simple fact is you have to have some standards and criteria otherwise the whole league becomes an even bigger joke than it already is. This 'pitch' quite obviously does'nt do that. Its not about getting points back or whinging about defeats. Its about Partick having a proper playing field. End of story.

What criteria does our pitch fail to meet and whose standards should we be aspiring to?

You seem to be suggesting Dundee are doing this for the greater good rather than it being the direct result of their league defeat. Laughable.

To be fair though - It is rediculous for Thistle to have this pitch in such a condition. It's not as if the weather or anything has contributed to this. It's the fact they let a mucky sport such as Rubgy take part every other week at their stadium. I'd be fuckin' raging if this happened at Broadwood as a Fitbaw pitch is a fitbaw pitch... Especially when it's for league football...

Of course the weather's contributed to it. Rugby's the main factor, but you can't discount the inclement weather the country experienced in the first few months of this year.

As I've noted in another thread, Broadwood's pitch is a mess. Fair enough, it's not quite as bad as ours, but what's Clyde's excuse?

That's stumped you, hasn't it?

T-I-T

Course you would, you wouldn't get any of the money would you?

How long did it take you to think that reply up? Fucking clown.

If we didnt get the warriors money we would have to go part time and no doubt be back into the first division. Sadly we are really stuck with the Warriors because of this

The simple fact is Dundee bottled it on the night. They had plenty of chances before Partick scored but couldn't hit a coo's arse with a banjo when under pressure.

Nae luck! But that's footie for you.

The standard whereby football can be played on it.

Or at the very least the standard whereby your right back doesn't get his foot stuck in one of its many sandpits.

The huns play their reserve games at Broadwood and the pitch seems to be in decent nick for the arse end of the season. Especially after the shitty weather.

And we don't get any money out of it either - And I'm not too chuffed about that, but when you rent your stadium - What can you do?

Letting Rugby be played less than 24 hours before a 2nd tier scottish league football match is just wrong - Rugby cuts a pitch up like fuck and when it's pishing with rain... We all know what happens!

Judging by the last two threads I've read you've just sat and attempted to slag Thistle all day long, sad b*****d.

Have to say I totally agree.

I take it this is the first of anyone knowing about Dundee officially complaining and its interesting the news has come from a Thistle supporter, not Dundee FC, which also backs up the non whinging angle.

For the record a number of clubs have rugby and football played on the same pitch these days without them ending up like Thistles. Perhaps they just havent invested in the quality of pitch required to take both.

Well its common knowledge that they always try to blame someone else for their failures.What fans they have left now that they are no longer a big club,start to agree that it was not their players, their management and their boards fault that they failed.It is just a smokescreen to deflect the blame.

Shall you be crawling into a corner to die any time soon??

Oh dear, someones touchy Still hurting after another failure?
It must be hard being the wee team in your city

I think Dundee's complaint should be taken very seriously, and in fact Firhill should be deemed unplayable for the rest of the season, resulting in the opposition at Firhill being awarded an automatic 3-0 win.

Dundee complain ? surely not.

NO i don't actually - if they were complaining about any pitch it should have been the plastic not a good honest football pitch - fecks sake - look at some of the pitches from 70's football - it was fine to play on them with no complaints from superstars!

I agree natural, unnatural, bounces are always far superior to alleged articial unnatural bounces.

WTF does all of this nonsense mean? If someone could translate this gibberish I would be grateful.

About as long as it took your bottle to smash that fateful night at Firhill... chin up, there's always next season, we'll try to grow some grass in time for you just to make things 'fair'

I don't no why is everyone is getting so upset!

What's done is done and I quite simply don't believe that we have registered a complaint, maybe on the night of the game like Fiorontina did to Rangers but definetly NOT when we have lost the league.

I will believe when there is proof however until then, I shall be a doubter!

Some of our players and the the manager thought it was the worst pitch they'd ever played on, although there was no issue with Thistle and indeed Derek McInnes spoke of his sympathy for the Thistle players having to play on it every week.

I'm sure if Thistle had envisaged the pitch being that bad, they might have either reconsidered the Warriors deal or put down a new pitch last summer. I'm sure the one that goes down this close season will be a lot tougher.

I think he means, or at least I do, that Dundee's belief that they are big club far outweights their, modest, achievements.

They should be greatful that we allowed them to grace our beautiful playing surface and that had we not be so charitable to our backward cousins from Dundee we have beaten you more than 1-0.

Now dry your eyes.

Note to all Dundee fans - the reason you weren't promoted this season was due to one reason and one reason only. You weren't good enough. Hamilton were a better team and even had you won at Firhill on a bowling green of a pitch the above would still be true.

So much bitterness towards Dundee F C/ Dundee F C fans/ Dundee in general not totally sure why but i have a good idea ! All the haters really need to calm down and take a chill pill the hatred and bitterness will poison you all in the end ,you could end up like Mr Robert/Miles Brookston and lets be honest that is not a good place to be ,you can see the bile and poison in there posts and it can't be good to have all that churning about inside you .

The post you quoted showed no bitterness, and why would we be bitter? You've won nothing.

If anyone should be bitter it's you. We put the final nail in Dundee's promotion coffin.

So now Partick's pitch is Dundee's excuse. I guess they have finally found out that the Hamilton Pitch complaints will get them nowhere

Other teams have won on the pitch. Quit complaining Dundee, you were beat fair and square.

When the Warriors played at Firhill previously the pitch was a bog, even worse than this season. However accusations that this was due to the rugby were denied with the excuse that it was all down to poor drainage and pitch being at the end of it's lifespan. New drainage was installed and pitch relaid.

At least this season there is no real denial that the rugby is a big contributory factor (along with the weather at the turn of the year) in the poor standard of the pitch. However I suspect that it was thought that the drainage work may have been sufficient to maintain the pitch.

The pitch will be relaid/reseeded after today and there has been some suggestion that a weave affair (a la Falkirk Stadium) could be included in that but with only a year of the contract with Warriors remaining we shall see.