For anyone who wonders why the SFA had to look at Rangers fixture pile up, here`s some facts :



2002/2003 Celtic played overall

League Games 38

League Cup Games 4

Scottish Cup Games 3

European matches 15

Total 60

*In 2003 with Celtic receiving an early knockout of the Scottish Cup by Inverness Caley at ¼ final stage, they still had to play from April 23^rd 2003, 5 League Games plus 1 away game to Boavista which led to 1 UEFA Cup Final against Porto.





2007/2008 Rangers will have played (excluding UEFA Cup Final)

League Games 38

League Cup Games 4

Scottish Cup Games 7

European matches 18

Total 67 + 1 possible UEFA Cup Final

*Before this season ends as of today, 23^rd April 2008, Rangers still have 7 League games to play. They also have 2 UEFA Cup matches and a possible final plus 1 Scottish Cup Final – Total 9 games still to play plus 1 possible UEFA Cup Final.



It should be noted that Celtic due to an early exit in the Scottish Cup during 2003 had only League and UEFA Cup games to play. Celtic played no replays in Cup games during that season either while no games were noted as postponed for Celtic although this of course could be wrong!

Obviously Rangers have been hindered by having postponed games plus 2 replays in the Scottish Cup which explains the back log.

I don't quite understand what Celtic have to do with it and why you have to bring our 2002/03 campaign into it, or for that matter, why you couldn't just have added this to the other threads on the fixture situation.

I understand, ergo you are thick

I think his post is pointing out that Celtic being refused an extension in 2003 and Rangers being granted an extension this year are not under comparable circumstances - kind of comparing apples with pears in my opinion.

I can't ever recall us asking for an extension or it ever being an issue.

Come to think of it, a big deal was made of the huns saying they never asked for an extension. Now they have one they are throwing the toys out of the pram because the one they've got, that one they never asked for, is not long enough. Comedy gold.

interesting....... so what is all the fuss about!!

Whether or not you recall it Sellick played a pre-split game after the split in 2003, simply to help their UEFA campaign

Live with it

NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SFA IT'S AN SPL ISSUE

sorry for using the caps but does my head in when folk blame the wrong organisation.

Are you sure, I'm sensing Gordon's Smith's hand behind this

In 2003, Scotland didn't have a crucial Euro Qualifier, Rangers certainly didn't have a game that had they won they'd have been in the last 16 of the Champions League, Phil O'Donnell didn't die and Motherwell didn't play football on a pitch comparable to an Arabian sand dune. Plus, Rangers knew how to put down tarpaulin to keep their pitch dry.

Blame global warming, it's what I do.

The SFA is the overall governing body and the SPL seek approval for matters of re structure and guidelines etc.

Further to this, the SPL board make decisions regarding the running of the SPL in accordance with the overall governing body ( the SFA plus UEFA and FIFA guidelines) and the members of the SPL, who are of course, the 12 clubs within the league.

Just thought I would clear that up for you.

The SPL also have a rule that allows them to change the rules as and when it suits them.

A nice little bone that both sides (of any dispute) can gnaw over

The SPL is controlled by 12 clubs and decisions are made with their opinion in mind.

Maybe some of the other SPL club`s representatives can confirm the extension decision as they were involved in it.

It wasn`t made by some guy sitting at a desk with a Rangers scarf wrapped round his neck and a big rosette on his lapel saying `Blue Nose Forever`!

According to Peter Lawell, the extension was agreed without consultation with the clubs or the SPL board. It is this decisions making process that has caused much concern to him and rightly so. It would appear that the SFA Executive made this decision on their own without any consultation from The Company or The Board. The latter contains 5 members of which Eddie Thomson is one (along with Eric Riley of Celtic), who like Lawell, has equally been forthright in his disagreement over the extension.

Shockarooney. Liewell and Riley of sellikfootballclub disagree with the granting of an extension to Rangers. Well, who would have known ?

No one is interested in that comparing., What Celtic fans are wondering is why, if the league is extended , and the title goes to the last game of the season(and there is a good chance of this ,(all Rangers need to do is get one poorer result then Celtic before the last game ) Is that Celtic will now have to wait ELEVEN DAYS!! to play their last game, and also due to International commitments and the European championships Celtic could be without Boruc,Hinkle,Samaras,VoH,Mcgeady ,Mcdonald,Killin, Nakamura,O'dea!! ..Now tell me which team are being punished again,?

Like Celtic said the Integrity of the league has been compromised.

Maybe you shouldn't have got the Old Firm game against Rangers put back a few months ago

Maybe Rangers shouldn't have agreed to it? A point everyone conveniently ignores, and don't tell me Rangers had no choice ,If like most Rangers fans believe Celtic were trying to pull a fast one re: O'Donnell , Then Rangers could have easily refused to postpone it saying something like ... With all due respect to Phil , and Celtic We believe ....blah blah blah and left the decision to the Spl , but Rangers INSTANTLY AGREED to the request without question

No thats false. We played motherwell at fir park as that game had to be moved because of the cis cup final in which you beat us because john hartson was 3 yards onside but the linesman thought "f**k it, flag up".

So the first available date for us to play that game was after the split. so admit you were wrong.

Can you imagine the whining about "Insensitive Huns tarnishing the memory blah blah blah"?

I dare say the head of the Stasi didn't sit at his desk bedecked in Dynamo Berlin regalia: but they used to see to it they won the league every year all the same.

And yes, the comparison is apt because ask in Germany now and there is only shame felt for the 'achievements' of Dynamo Berlin. Thesedays languishing in the regional leagues the club gaudily emblazoned numberous stars on their shirts in a hollow attempt to represent their numberous tainted trophy wins (sound familiar?) while German football and society has moved on: viewing them as a faintly pathetic throwback, wallowing in their sordid murky past.

When oh when will we all be able to move on too?



Smith's appointment was certainly an explicit, shameless, naked, direct declaration of hunnery by Scotland's football authorities. But the actual hun in the top job doesn't matter: I'm sure the apparatus will function the same way it always has regardless.

You really, really, really are the most complete and utter tosser I have ever encountered. You are the archetypal template for downtrodden Timmy with the huge chip, the one Jonathan Watson so impecably portrays! Do you have a lithp and a soft wee voice, sitting in Garngad in your wee green bedecked one bedroom flat ?

The sad thing is, I don't think you realise how much of a w**k you portray yourself on this board.

It's funny you should mention that because I see you as the character of the hun Watson portrays, you know the one with the chib mark on his chin and a mullet haircut with the 1982 season Rangers top never off his back and a picture of Mo Johnston on his dart board with empty cans of skol all over the floor.

Noticed you didn't try to argue with any of Beymestics points that he put across so well, probably fed up with him wiping the floor with you. Can't blame you.

Beyemistic's wee sellik bitch, his wee mini-me

Is that the best retort you can come up with? I should have written it down but I knew you would say that. Brainless, predictable tosser.

You've got a middle parting haven't you ? I can feel your anger. There, there, my son

Are you one of Beyemistic's wee brainless intellectually challenged pygmies ?

Another poor inane rambling from you there Ted.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Tit.

Heat? What heat? You prove yourself to be more stupid with every passing post. Is this what all huns are like when they are defending thier "Kulture"?

You really are beginning to get quite boring, spouting the same old pish all the time. Can't you get in touch with Beyemistic and ask him to write you some new stuff ?

Actually, you're not begginning to get boring. You've always been that way.
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I'm writing down your reply right now........Go on, surprise me with an original thought

I think most of the Celtic minded posters on this website stay in the same block of flats up in the Garngad. You can catch a glimpse of the flats at the start of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-BEkBeKz5A

Where have I spouted the same old pish?

That's not much of a surprise ?

Think I caught a glimpse of Mr Glove there. He was the wee guy with his hand being held by Beyemistic

No that's not true. For some unknown and strange reason the post originator is.

Why do you finish sentences that ain't questions with a question mark?

I don't know ? Is that really the best you can come up with.

(Bit of satire there )

It's better than posting juvenile videos and showing how immature you are isn't it???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Eh, yeh, whatever

The integrity of the league was compromised on the 2nd of May 1999 when an innocent man
was felled at a football match. What did you think then `da`?

Someone threw a coin 9 year ago .... Anyway I was trying to make a serious point re: the 11 day thing and the missing players ?

I expect the same behaviour from the Celtic fans this weekend when we hump you.
Poor losers the lot of you.

http://www.footballsafety.com/policysectarianism.htm

My point is there are more serious things happen in football we should all be addressing rather than a 4 day extension of a league season da`. And that includes the shameful antics a few of my own club`s supporters get up to!

Last night at Ibrox I witnessed at the end of the game, Fiorentina and Rangers supporters clapping each other in friendly respect. As there visitors to our country, I thought it was a decent gesture. Then 2 fuckin` idiots run up to the balcony at the Broomloan Road end of the Govan Stand and started shouting abuse and fingering the Italian fans. In the old days I would have thrown them over the fuckin` balcony instead of just giving them a mouthful for letting down the club!