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MacLeantonboy
I am predicting a close game although i think we will lose 2-1.
Think Russell may well get our goal wink.gif
Late Dunfermline winner rolleyes.gif
BluebirdTon
Apart from being beaten off Partick,Dunfermline's form from what i've heard has vastly improved .I'm quite confident they'll be pretty desparate to return to winning ways and will see us off no bother. smile.gif
MacLeantonboy
QUOTE (BluebirdTon @ Jan 24 2008, 17:11) *
Apart from being beaten off Partick,Dunfermline's form from what i've heard has vastly improved .I'm quite confident they'll be pretty desparate to return to winning ways and will see us off no bother. smile.gif



I don't think it will be a mauling although i am very certain it'll be a loss maybe at most we will lose by 2 goals dry.gif
port-ton
4-0 to dunfermline

early goal for dunfermline and it stays the same til around the the hour mark when they get a 2nd and we decide to give up. dunfermline score a couple more but in the end it could have been 6 or 7.

but a marked improvement from the strikers from last week at least, we get our first shot on target in the 78th minute.
MacLeantonboy
QUOTE (port-ton @ Jan 24 2008, 17:35) *
but a marked improvement from the strikers from last week at least, we get our first shot on target in the 78th minute.



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Stevie Aitken's Love Child
Confidence is very low, and if we concede quite early on we will capitulate again. On the other hand, if we happen to get the first goal it will do wonders for us, and I wouldn't bet against us going on to win if we do. Not on the best of runs to be honest, but who if we can manage to get a new face or 2 in before the game you never know.

I do predict we will lose though, probably by 2 or 3 goals.
Dundee Par
I like how the Morton fans are always optimistic about their team smile.gif

If we win it'll be another scrappy one by the odd goal. If we do manage to score 1st we can't sit back like we always do, as we nearly always get punished.
MacLeantonboy
QUOTE (Dundee Par @ Jan 24 2008, 17:38) *
I like how the Morton fans are always optimistic about their team smile.gif

Why thank you biggrin.gif

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BasraTon
Dunfermline 3 Morton 1 ( og )
steve-ton
Dunfermline will score in the first 15 minutes, then we will give up. Harding & MacGregor will have shockers again, McGuffie will be invisible & Weatherson will do the square root of f*ck all. Millar will again be our best player by a considerable distance. Stevenson will come on for the last 20 minutes and look totally disinterested. Russell will be offside.

Final score: Dunfermline 7-0 Morton
Chazz Michael Michaels
IT WILL RAIN
BE VERY WINDY
BORING

No score draw.

OH AND FREEZING COLD!!!
Stu1874
QUOTE (steve-ton @ Jan 26 2008, 12:18) *
Dunfermline will score in the first 15 minutes, then we will give up. Harding & MacGregor will have shockers again, McGuffie will be invisible & Weatherson will do the square root of f*ck all. Millar will again be our best player by a considerable distance. Stevenson will come on for the last 20 minutes and look totally disinterested. Russell will be offside.


sooooperb!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif and sadly...so very true sad.gif
BishyTON
Dunfermline will probably win this game comfortably. If they score first they are dead-cert to win the heads always seem to go down when this happens.

TTG Jim
Marc
I actually don't have any thoughts.

I have facts though.
Mac_Ton
when will mcinaly stop being a p***k and step down! mad.gif
DomDom
It's hard to comment since I wasn't there, but another defeat and another game without scoring really has to be looked at seriously.
Islay
QUOTE (DomDom @ Jan 26 2008, 17:12) *
It's hard to comment since I wasn't there, but another defeat and another game without scoring really has to be looked at seriously.


I hope this doesn't come across as smug or anything like that, however I can't remember you testing our 'keeper once during the 90 minutes. We were in neutral for the entire game today, and won it quite comfortably. You were neat and tidy in possesion and had a bit of fight, but severely lacked any real quality in the final third. If you did then you could have won the game as our players didn't look interested enough and didn't seem to want to compete for the ball at times.
Steak & Barley
QUOTE (Islay @ Jan 26 2008, 17:34) *
I hope this doesn't come across as smug or anything like that, however I can't remember you testing our 'keeper once during the 90 minutes.


Not smug at all just a fair reflection of the game. We have no cutting edge whatsoever.
stuart.
We have scored 5 and conceded 21 in our last 8 league games - this saddens me sad.gif
Dafc-15
Quite a good game for us. We played well in the second half and got the goals we deserved.

washsacks
It was a win at a canter today.

The first half was an awful bore-fest but we brithened up after the break and fully deserved to take the lead. We played some decent one touch stuff and our second goal was a good move.

Morton didn't offer anything whatsoever in the final third and we looked like we could of scored alot more. Your defending from set pieces was shocking.
Dunning1874
QUOTE (washsacks @ Jan 26 2008, 17:53) *
It was a win at a canter today.

The first half was an awful bore-fest but we brithened up after the break and fully deserved to take the lead. We played some decent one touch stuff and our second goal was a good move.

Morton didn't offer anything whatsoever in the final third and we looked like we could of scored alot more. Your defending from set pieces was shocking.


It has been for years now, and I'm not exaggerating. We haven't been able to defend set pieces since Billy Stark was manager.

I wasn't able to make the game today, but judging by what's been said here we were absolutely awful yet again. We haven't played well in the league since the 10th of November. Hopefully McInally will be gone by Monday.
washsacks
QUOTE (Dunning1874 @ Jan 26 2008, 19:04) *
It has been for years now, and I'm not exaggerating. We haven't been able to defend set pieces since Billy Stark was manager.

I wasn't able to make the game today, but judging by what's been said here we were absolutely awful yet again. We haven't played well in the league since the 10th of November. Hopefully McInally will be gone by Monday.



Twice Simmons was left free and he missed easier opportunites than the one he scored.
Satans_Husband
Can't argue with the result today. Dunfermline looked average at best and that was still more than enough to beat us.

That's only the second time I've seen a rabbit in a ground when a game was going on. I hope someone got a picture of it.
LazyBW
We were fairly average in the first half, but first goal (as it always is in this league) was absolutely crucial and a good finish from Simmons to set us well on our way!

You sure this rabbit wasn't just Sammy the Tammy and you have had a few too many?

Indeed, I thought I saw an elephant roughly the same time the announcer said Peter Weatherson was coming on.....
Satans_Husband
QUOTE (LazyBW @ Jan 26 2008, 19:36) *
You sure this rabbit wasn't just Sammy the Tammy and you have had a few too many?


I didn't actually see Sammy the Tammy today though I assume he was around?
BluebirdTon
We started out not too badly but a goal was certainly coming from Dunfermline at some point and i think we were slightly fortunate it didn't come earlier.McGurn made some fantastic saves from two dodgy crosses and a close range header.

The goal then came in the second half,and we pretty much chucked it after that.Minutes later Dunfermline got a corner and should have scored because of our players failure to mark up,the pars players shot went straight into a line of players - luckily.

The game was finished for us as far as i was concerned,we never looked like scoring and being a goal down distanced that further.

The Pars second might not have crossed the line but from where i was seated i was in no position to have a valid opinion,we were long beaten anyway.

Did we even have a shot on target ? huh.gif
gingapar
QUOTE (BluebirdTon @ Jan 26 2008, 20:09) *
Did we even have a shot on target ? huh.gif


don't think so actually despite us gifting you the same chance that St Johnstone scored from last week. through on goal, for some reason your attacker decided to cut it back weakly to the chasing defenders, strange.
TrumpingTon
QUOTE (gingapar @ Jan 26 2008, 20:19) *
don't think so actually despite us gifting you the same chance that St Johnstone scored from last week. through on goal, for some reason your attacker decided to cut it back weekly to the chasing defenders, strange.


it'll be years before we score at that rate sad.gif
DAFC
Thought we played pretty well today, nice goal from Simmons who had a great game for a change.
Morton possibly would have scored in the first half if they had a striker of quality.
I did think that their midfielder with the blonde hair number 7 looked really good and had a few nice runs into our half.
Sorry still dont really know the squads of other teams yet.
Looks like we have finally realised that playing down the flanks can be effective, not sure Jim Mac is the man to play there but maybe Morrison can replace him when he gets fit again.
We should be safe now.


gingapar
QUOTE (DAFC @ Jan 26 2008, 21:12) *
Thought we played pretty well today, nice goal from Simmons who had a great game for a change.
Morton possibly would have scored in the first half if they had a striker of quality.
I did think that their midfielder with the blonde hair number 7 looked really good and had a few nice runs into our half.
Sorry still dont really know the squads of other teams yet.
Looks like we have finally realised that playing down the flanks can be effective, not sure Jim Mac is the man to play there but maybe Morrison can replace him when he gets fit again.
We should be safe now.


owen or scott? i would think his intention is to play scott morrison at the back with Muirhead occupying the left midfield spot.
da_no_1
QUOTE (DAFC @ Jan 26 2008, 21:12) *
Thought we played pretty well today, nice goal from Simmons who had a great game for a change.
Morton possibly would have scored in the first half if they had a striker of quality.
I did think that their midfielder with the blonde hair number 7 looked really good and had a few nice runs into our half.
Sorry still dont really know the squads of other teams yet.
Looks like we have finally realised that playing down the flanks can be effective, not sure Jim Mac is the man to play there but maybe Morrison can replace him when he gets fit again.
We should be safe now.


eh, not yet! clyde have got a new gaffer & were unlucky not to get a point today according to radio reports. a tight league with a decent run of 3 or 4 games pushing any team 4 or 5 places up the league.

i'm not convinced we're safe and i hope the players feel the same way.
DAFC
QUOTE
owen or scott? i would think his intention is to play scott morrison at the back with Muirhead occupying the left midfield spot.


I think that Muirhead is better at left back and Owen Morrison would be better ahead of him.
I know he is lazy sometimes but technically he is as good as Harper and has more pace too.
We need to sort out the left hand side as there isn't much there now Murphy has gone imo.

Regarding the safety issue I think I saw enough about us in the second half to suggest we are slightly better than Morton/Clyde/Stirling.
I wouldn't want the players to relax though you're right.


Jack Bauer
I thought the first half was dire for both teams but the Pars got off to a flier when our persistant standing off allowed them to spray a ball to the right and the lad had no obstacles in front of him so he was able to hit a neat shot into the corner.

After that only one team was going to win...and it wasnt us!

We are falling into a worrying trend of abandoning all hope both on and off the park the moment we concede a goal.

I felt the Pars maybe could have won by 3 or 4 in the end, I didnt think they were brilliant , but we were awful and badly organised. In fact the word that best describes us is JUNK!

We now trudge further south on Monday to play Gretna at Queens and no doubt Collins and Irons must have left East End Park today very confident that they too will turn us over.

Id like to say thanks to the Pars fans in the boozer, you are a very friendly and sympathetic bunch and it was nice to see a group of your guys clapping us as our busses left to take us back west.

JB.
Shadwell
We were brutal today again. Morton were worse, just !! You lot had a few chances to punish us, but your finishing is about as good as ours.

Apart from the goals, and some dodgy decisions, the game was a snorefest. very poor 90mins.
Socks
Until today, I hadn't seen any great cause for the general negativity that Morton fans have about them on here as they've played quite well against us in both previous games, but today I got an idea why. I really couldn't believe they were as bad as that. Jointly with QOS the week before Christmas, that's the worst away performance I've seen at EEP this season. A small thing that summed it up for me was taht Morton were worse than the Pars at shies today, and that really does take some doing! It was particularly strnage to see them allow us to take a shy straight back to the keeper under no pressure even at 1-0 down. I can hardly remember any team playing such a tactic in recent years.

I don't think we were anywhere near great, but I thought we did quite well in the second half and played a bit of decent football. Admittedly the first half was pretty boring all round, but once we got going after half time I was quite happy with how the team played. Since Mark Burchill has looked like being the only player that can score for us recently barring Scott Wilson's header in midweek, it was very good to see two midfield players getting up to score the goals today. Stephen Simmons in particular had a great game today. I thought the keeper should have done better with his goal though - he seemed to dive out of the way of it as the ball went into pretty much the middle of the goal.
MacLeantonboy
Anyone who was at todays game can answer this short question for me.

What formation were morton playing and what was the lineup and positions? cool.gif

gingapar
QUOTE (DAFC @ Jan 26 2008, 21:29) *
I think that Muirhead is better at left back and Owen Morrison would be better ahead of him.
I know he is lazy sometimes but technically he is as good as Harper and has more pace too.
We need to sort out the left hand side as there isn't much there now Murphy has gone imo.


Harper and Owen Morrisson are just as lazy as one another. Harper has more pace but refuses to use it with an open field in front of him, he just doesn't like running that much. Morrison is probably the more skillful of the two.

depending on who we are playing, both lineups could be useful, for work rate and defencive solidity, Scott M then Muirhead, for a more attacking outlook, Muirhead then Owen M. the Morrison Morrison combination could possibly offer a middle ground but we're more likely to get caught out for pace with Scott M pushing forward.

either way, the realism of this league, those three are as much as we need or can afford to have to cover those two positions with other players (such as Glass or Mcintyre) filling in in emergencies.
Dunning1874
QUOTE (MacLeantonboy @ Jan 27 2008, 02:50) *
Anyone who was at todays game can answer this short question for me.

What formation were morton playing and what was the lineup and positions? cool.gif


I heard it was 3-6-1.

What a rubbish formation.
Steak & Barley
QUOTE (Socks @ Jan 27 2008, 01:28) *
Until today, I hadn't seen any great cause for the general negativity that Morton fans have about them on here as they've played quite well against us in both previous games, but today I got an idea why.


That same idea has dawn on many of us. We have only managed 1 home win since August, our away form which was reasonable at the start of the season has descended into the punchless shambles you saw yesterday and our manager thinks we look like a decent side with good shape.

McInally has had enough opportunity to bring in his own players, sort out the right tactics and establish a style of play and he has failed miserably on all counts. The team was always going to find this season difficult due to our appalling pre season and failure to sort out some basic problems from the previous seasons, but some had hope that a bit of grit and determination would see us cling on to a first div place. That hope is looking quite forlorn as the Manger, Chairman and players are simply not up to it.

We fell over the finishing line in a very poor 2nd division last season but if anything our standard of football this season has been significantly worse. Without the basics of players doing the simple things right and a manager who can organise and motivate then we are only headed one way.
The Chef
The first half had a pre-season friendly feel about it, poor stuff TBH. We were better in the 2nd half and fully deserved a comfortable win. Couldn't believe how bad Morton were after the way they pummelled us at Greenock on Boxing Day! 2 well worked goals from the midfield were pleasing to see for a change.
MCL
QUOTE (MacLeantonboy @ Jan 27 2008, 02:50) *
Anyone who was at todays game can answer this short question for me.

What formation were morton playing and what was the lineup and positions? cool.gif


I thought it was strange that Scott McLaughlin was wearing 3 then saw him taking the kick-off although he played in midfield. Jim McAllister was wearing 11 and played left back. I think that was the sum total of Jim McInally's tactics laugh.gif

Morton had their best spell at the start of the first half but never threatened the goal. Dunfermline played much better in the second half and once they scored the game was over.
MacLeantonboy
QUOTE (MCL @ Jan 27 2008, 10:12) *
I thought it was strange that Scott McLaughlin was wearing 3 then saw him taking the kick-off although he played in midfield. Jim McAllister was wearing 11 and played left back. I think that was the sum total of Jim McInally's tactics laugh.gif

Morton had their best spell at the start of the first half but never threatened the goal. Dunfermline played much better in the second half and once they scored the game was over.



I don't think Mcalister played left back., From what ive heard i think this is it but not sure, somone correct me if i am wrong wink.gif


.............................Mcgurn.........................


Smith........Harding...........Greacen ...........MacGregor


Finlayson...Millar....McGuffie....McLaughlin.....McAlister

............................Russell.........................


Not too sure about which out of smith, harding and greacen was right back laugh.gif thats the best example using the players that played that i can think of, someone tell me if i am wrong please laugh.gif
MacLeantonboy
QUOTE (Dunning1874 @ Jan 27 2008, 08:28) *
I heard it was 3-6-1.

What a rubbish formation.



Well sayin it was 3-6-1 the team would have been

McGurn

Smith Greacen Harding

Finlayson Millar McGuffie McLaughlin MacGregor McAlister

Russell

Shocking if it was, what a shite formation sad.gif
edd
QUOTE (MacLeantonboy @ Jan 27 2008, 02:50) *
Anyone who was at todays game can answer this short question for me.

What formation were morton playing and what was the lineup and positions? cool.gif

QUOTE (Dunning1874 @ Jan 27 2008, 08:28) *
I heard it was 3-6-1.

What a rubbish formation.

it was up until they scored their first, then it looked more like a 3-5-2

QUOTE (MacLeantonboy @ Jan 27 2008, 12:02) *
Well sayin it was 3-6-1 the team would have been

McGurn

Smith Greacen Harding

Finlayson Millar McGuffie McLaughlin MacGregor McAlister

Russell

Shocking if it was, what a shite formation sad.gif

----------------------- mcgurn
------------- harding - smith - greacen
--finlayson - macgregor - mclaughlin - mcalister
-------------------millar - mcguffie
---------------------- russell

to be fair i thought it worked quite well in the first half - two holding midfielders with finlayson and mcalister playing as wing-backs - but dunfermline looked the more likely to score. when they did mcinally brought weatherson on for macgregor (who was one of our better players, i thought - mcguffie was pants and should have been taken off instead) and it looked like a more normal 3-5-2.

i don't think it was the wrong formation particularly, i just think the players can't be arsed any more. too used to beating teams week in week out after the last few seasons in the 2nd division, perhaps. i don't dislike mcinally but maybe a change in manager would revitalise things on the pitch - but that's only if we can get a decent manager in to replace him ...
MacLeantonboy
QUOTE (edd @ Jan 27 2008, 13:19) *
it was up until they scored their first, then it looked more like a 3-5-2


----------------------- mcgurn
------------- harding - smith - greacen
--finlayson - macgregor - mclaughlin - mcalister
-------------------millar - mcguffie
---------------------- russell

to be fair i thought it worked quite well in the first half - two holding midfielders with finlayson and mcalister playing as wing-backs - but dunfermline looked the more likely to score. when they did mcinally brought weatherson on for macgregor (who was one of our better players, i thought - mcguffie was pants and should have been taken off instead) and it looked like a more normal 3-5-2.

i don't think it was the wrong formation particularly, i just think the players can't be arsed any more. too used to beating teams week in week out after the last few seasons in the 2nd division, perhaps. i don't dislike mcinally but maybe a change in manager would revitalise things on the pitch - but that's only if we can get a decent manager in to replace him ...

Thank you, if i was JM i am afraid imo i would play four at the back as you need as much cover as possible especially in this team, my team would be.........

.............................McGurn................

Sign a right back..Smith...Harding....MacGregor

Millar.......McGuffie......McLaughlin.....McAlister

..............Russell........Sign a striker
DAFC
Why did you get rid of Templeman?
I thought he looked ok at the last game at EEP.
MacLeantonboy
QUOTE (DAFC @ Jan 27 2008, 17:20) *
Why did you get rid of Templeman?
I thought he looked ok at the last game at EEP.



Well he was fourth choice striker and only scored one goal all season, we payed 80k for him when he first arrived and we let him go for free, great bit of business there Morton wink.gif
Larbert_Par
Very late to this thread, but a good result for us on Saturday.

The first half though would've got football stopped- brutal from both teams, and checking to see how many Havant and Waterlooville would score at Anfield was more appealling.

Controlled the second half, good finish from Simmons who I thought did well, while I wasn't sure about the 2nd goal being over the line, but we'll take it.

Good performances from Nipper and Hammy, while Murphy will be a loss. Burchill ran his socks off and deserved a goal.

Kevin Harper though is a frustrating player. Great pace to beat a man, but his crossing is usually pash. If his crossing was as good as Allan Moore's, then we'd have a player.

Still much work to do, but a welcome three points.
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