With some new signings and some much needed confidence from a few wins - does anyonelse apart from me think the Binos just may get off the foot of the table at some point this season?
Todd_is_God
Jan 15 2008, 20:21
No
edited to add, some much needed confidence from a few wins?! You haven't won a game in 12 weeks, and have only one league win all season...
Raving On
Jan 15 2008, 20:36
I think we can, although there's maybe only a 25% chance we will. We have to start turning things around pretty quickly. If J-Rod is as good as his few touches at Celtic Park we might be onto something.
Its crucial that our top players stay fit and free of suspensions; we're yet to field our strongest eleven in any match this season.
vikingTON
Jan 15 2008, 20:37
If Stirling can get a win on the board soon, there's no reason why not.
They lacked confidence in their own ability at Forthbank.
When's the next game against clyde?
The Phoenix
Jan 15 2008, 20:40
QUOTE (Raving On @ Jan 15 2008, 20:36)

I think we can, although there's maybe only a 25% chance we will. We have to start turning things around pretty quickly. If J-Rod is as good as his few touches at Celtic Park we might be onto something.
Its crucial that our top players stay fit and free of suspensions; we're yet to field our strongest eleven in any match this season.
Agree with all of that except 25% chance we will - surely we either will or we won't?
Mushroom
Jan 15 2008, 20:46
I hope not.
Nothing personal.
Skyline Drifter
Jan 15 2008, 20:59
QUOTE (greg @ Jan 15 2008, 20:18)

With some new signings and some much needed confidence from a few wins - does anyonelse apart from me think the Binos just may get off the foot of the table at some point this season?

They've already been off the bottom at some point this season. They weren't bottom after the first games and indeed climbed off the bottom as recently as October 27th (when we went bottom).
Stirling have made some impressive changes in the wondow so far but I'd be surprised if they come off the bottom again. It's a big gap already and it would not only need a run of wins but also a collapse of sorts from one of the sides above for them to be catching anyone. It would be absolutely imperative that they win the game in hand at Broadwood for a start.
Mr Roberts
Jan 15 2008, 21:03
Now that Sky have bailed out Clyde again, you don't stand a chance.
QUOTE (Skyline Drifter @ Jan 15 2008, 20:59)

They've already been off the bottom at some point this season. They weren't bottom after the first games and indeed climbed off the bottom as recently as October 27th (when we went bottom).
Stirling have made some impressive changes in the wondow so far but I'd be surprised if they come off the bottom again. It's a big gap already and it would not only need a run of wins but also a collapse of sorts from one of the sides above for them to be catching anyone. It would be absolutely imperative that they win the game in hand at Broadwood for a start.
I don't actually think we have come off the bottom - once we got there we stayed and will probably remain for the rest of the season.
granty
Jan 15 2008, 21:07
QUOTE (Raving On @ Jan 15 2008, 20:36)

I think we can, although there's maybe only a 25% chance we will. We have to start turning things around pretty quickly. If J-Rod is as good as his few touches at Celtic Park we might be onto something.
Its crucial that our top players stay fit and free of suspensions; we're yet to field our strongest eleven in any match this season.
Uz dont have any top players.
Albion have 1 chance of stayin up.........No chance!!!
Dunning1874
Jan 15 2008, 21:12
I have a feeling that Allan Moore will inspire them to pull off something spectacular, maybe all it'll take is another win and they'll be on a run.
Stirling definitely should not be underestimated - if they get their best players available and on form, there's no reason they can't catch up with the likes of us, Clyde, QOS and Livi.
Raving On
Jan 15 2008, 21:12
QUOTE (Gnash @ Jan 15 2008, 21:04)

I don't actually think we have come off the bottom - once we got there we stayed and will probably remain for the rest of the season.
No, Skyline Drifter is right. Sure we dropped to the bottom then moved back to ninth with a draw for a week or two.
Raving On
Jan 15 2008, 21:13
QUOTE (granty @ Jan 15 2008, 21:07)

Uz dont have any top players.
Albion have 1 chance of stayin up.........No chance!!!
Well that's us consigned to the Second Division then
Dunning1874
Jan 15 2008, 21:14
QUOTE (granty @ Jan 15 2008, 21:07)

Uz dont have any top players.
Albion have 1 chance of stayin up.........No chance!!!
Thanks for that excellent contribution to the discussion.
The Phoenix
Jan 15 2008, 21:14
QUOTE (granty @ Jan 15 2008, 21:07)

Uz dont have any top players.
Albion have 1 chance of stayin up.........No chance!!!
World expert on Stirling Albion are we?
I would respectfully suggest you should concentrate on your own team's problems.
Steak & Barley
Jan 15 2008, 21:19
There's always hope but they really need to get a break soon. If they're still well adrift at the end of the month then sadly it looks like a quick return to the wastelands.
The Pacey Winger
Jan 15 2008, 21:46
A fortnight ago I was resigned to the fact we were going down. But the last couple of games have inspired a bit more confidence in me.
The new signings......
Big Erik Portaloo will strengthen us up at the back a bit, J-Rod looks to be the perfect foil for McKenna up front. I wouldn't be surprised to see at least one more player coming in as well
On Saturday Aitken, Nugent, Forsyth, Devine all looked the players they can be and were last season.
Bell and Cramb are almost back to fitness.
I suppose it is easy to lift your game against the Old Firm but I really think the players aren't finished with this league yet.......don't think Moore will allow it, he is very ambitious and to keep the Binos up this year would put his stock as a manager through the roof.
We need to start winning immediately though and starting on saturday will do nicely.
QUOTE (Raving On @ Jan 15 2008, 21:12)

No, Skyline Drifter is right. Sure we dropped to the bottom then moved back to ninth with a draw for a week or two.
Aye, so we did -
link.
I probably should have checked before saying that.
BishyTON
Jan 15 2008, 22:24
They have a small chance of staying up - but nothing more than that.
If they are to stand any chance they need to be within 6 points of 9th with 5 games to go. Anymore than that and they will be finished. From what I have seen of them this season.. they have been very average. Mind you while McInally is managing us you never know!!
19QOS19
Jan 15 2008, 22:36
Sorry but only one team can pull off The Great Escape and that is The South

. In all seriousness i dont think Stirling have what it takes, in this league you have to have a good home form and when QoS went there Stirling lacked in every department it was a game which i thought its not a case of Stirling scoring its a case of whether we would score for the win or not for the draw. Thats not how you should be playing at home. I dont think they will manage it!
Raving On
Jan 15 2008, 23:16
I can see why you're saying that and you've probably stumbled onto a good point without actually realising it.
We need to start playing better when we face teams just outside the relegation zone at hone. We've reserved out three worst performances of the season for vitally important home games; Clyde, Queen of the South and Morton. The Queen of the South match was arguably in the bottom 5 performance of Moore's tenure; truly bleak.
If we're to stay up then we need to start beating the teams just above us in the league.
Skyline Drifter
Jan 15 2008, 23:35
QUOTE (Skyline Drifter @ Jan 15 2008, 20:59)

They've already been off the bottom at some point this season. They weren't bottom after the first games and indeed climbed off the bottom as recently as October 27th (when we went bottom).
QUOTE (Gnash @ Jan 15 2008, 21:04)

I don't actually think we have come off the bottom - once we got there we stayed and will probably remain for the rest of the season.
QUOTE (Raving On @ Jan 15 2008, 21:12)

No, Skyline Drifter is right. Sure we dropped to the bottom then moved back to ninth with a draw for a week or two.
Like I said in the first post, October 27th. We achieved a pretty creditable draw at Livingston that day to remain behind them on goals scored and then came off the field to discover Stirling had beaten Dunfermline 3-0 to move above both teams by a single goal. We moved off the bottom and actually up as far as 7th the following Saturday by beating Hamilton. I presume you remained above Livingston another week going by the link to the graph of positions.
veteran
Jan 15 2008, 23:41
It's easy.We have a tradition of doing it on a regular basis.
BluebirdTon
Jan 15 2008, 23:46
Pure and blunt,No.
Haven't seen enough from them to suggest they can do so.They look as if they could score more than they do,certainly against us anyway,i just don't think they have good enough players i.e Derek Lilley,couldn't trap it,never mind strike it.
Raving On
Jan 15 2008, 23:53
QUOTE (BluebirdTon @ Jan 15 2008, 23:46)

Pure and blunt,No.
Haven't seen enough from them to suggest they can do so.They look as if they could score more than they do,certainly against us anyway,i just don't think they have good enough players i.e Derek Lilley,couldn't trap it,never mind strike it.
Two words... Jay Rodriguez (I hope

)
port-ton
Jan 16 2008, 06:21
stirling wont finish bottom of the league, they done amazing in play-off situation last year, i dont see why they cant stay up. i hope they do.
academical
Jan 16 2008, 08:39
Stirling must be just about everybody's tip to finish bottom, but there's still hope.
The game in hand against Clyde is crucial - a six-pointer if ever there was one. Win that and you're only five points adrift with 15 games to go, still in with a chance - lose it and the gap's eleven and things look bleak.
From this position, reaching the play-off spot would be quite an achievement. I still think Stirling will finish tenth because you need two things to happen - you need to transform your own form, and you need someone else to collapse as well. One of those is possible, but both is unlikely.
Raving On
Jan 16 2008, 09:01
I'm not convinced we need someone to collapse. Assuming we were to win our game in hand against Clyde, if we were to win the following Saturday and Clyde were to lose all of a sudden the gap is only 2 points!
And I'm not sure we need to "transform" our own form either. We do need to improve, but not by a massive margin. If we got another 5% improvement then half our draws would start turning to wins.
Still to play the Woolly Bee three times and they have Colin Hendry in charge.
We'll stay up via the playoffs.
Macca SAFC
Jan 16 2008, 10:15
QUOTE (granty @ Jan 15 2008, 21:07)

Uz dont have any top players.
Albion have 1 chance of stayin up.........No chance!!!
whats wrong scared of playing us next season when your in the first division bawbag!
Is this you just seeing what life is like posting on the First division get used to it.
RedWeb
Jan 16 2008, 12:56
I'll have more of an idea once the likes of Bell and Cramb are back and the new signings have bedded in. On first look PortaPotty and J-Rod look quality additions but the first big test of their credentials will be on Saturday against Lavvy. I still think we are a better team than at least 2 of the ones above us and we need to start showing it...if we do then all is not lost
Ray Vaughn
Jan 16 2008, 13:18
I was coming round to thinking that we might start a we run in the next few weeks.
a) our 1st quarter and 3rd quarter games are easier than the 2nd quarter and last quarter games (i.e. if doesn't happen soon it won't!)

Colin Cramb should soon return to fitness. He is the player who makes us tick up front.
c) New signings - 2 in who look like they might be decent plus, hopefully, more to come.
d) Players who initially struggled in the first appear to be coming back to form (Aitken, Bell, Nugent, Forsyth)
Will it happen? We'll see but we've got to start winning games at home (plus Clyde away!)
Would Morton fans be comfortable if we went on a run (they know we're more than capable of it from recent seasons!)
QUOTE (granty @ Jan 15 2008, 21:07)

Uz dont have any top players.
Albion have 1 chance of stayin up.........No chance!!!
You never know we could be in the same league as your good selves.
Steak & Barley
Jan 16 2008, 21:49
QUOTE (Ray Vaughn @ Jan 16 2008, 13:18)

Would Morton fans be comfortable if we went on a run (they know we're more than capable of it from recent seasons!)
I doubt we'll be comfortable whether you go on a run or not. Fortunately none of us play for Morton though
Colin Cramb is shite. Couldn't cut it at this level with Hamilton a couple of years ago and hasn't proven otherwise since.
2 players won't make the team sitting bottom go on a long winning streak.
StewartyMac
Jan 16 2008, 22:09
QUOTE (MTJ @ Jan 16 2008, 21:51)

Colin Cramb is shite. Couldn't cut it at this level with Hamilton a couple of years ago and hasn't proven otherwise since.
2 players won't make the team sitting bottom go on a long winning streak.
We're such a confidence team though, always have been throughout Moore's reign. Looks like we might also have at least two more new faces come in within the next week or so.
It's unlikely we'll manage it, granted, but it's not quite over yet.
Mon The Clyde
Jan 16 2008, 22:25
The last game of the season (Clyde vs Stirling at Broadwood) looks it might be a decider.
QUOTE (Mon The Clyde @ Jan 16 2008, 22:25)

The last game of the season (Clyde vs Stirling at Broadwood) looks it might be a decider.
I'd settle for that right now.
port-ton
Jan 16 2008, 22:52
QUOTE (Ray Vaughn @ Jan 16 2008, 13:18)

I was coming round to thinking that we might start a we run in the next few weeks.
a) our 1st quarter and 3rd quarter games are easier than the 2nd quarter and last quarter games (i.e. if doesn't happen soon it won't!)

Colin Cramb should soon return to fitness. He is the player who makes us tick up front.
c) New signings - 2 in who look like they might be decent plus, hopefully, more to come.
d) Players who initially struggled in the first appear to be coming back to form (Aitken, Bell, Nugent, Forsyth)
Will it happen? We'll see but we've got to start winning games at home (plus Clyde away!)
Would Morton fans be comfortable if we went on a run (they know we're more than capable of it from recent seasons!)
i can really see every team in the league going on a run of results except clyde (no disrespect to them).
i also think us, stirling and livingston will go on runs of defeats aswell.
ultimately i think stirling will finish 9th but will stay up. i hope thats what happens anyway.
Rinky Sidebottom
Jan 16 2008, 22:53
It's never over till the fat one sings...
Hopefully Stirling will pull it off, if not then it's back to Div. 2 and it all starts again.
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