It's been widely reported that Clyde desparately need the the t.v. money from the DUFC cup game to stave off financial problems, and at the same time I am sure that last season's Celtic money, and the Ibrox payday, will have had a similar effect.

If Clyde are so heavily dependent on windfalls like this, why do they still have a full time setup? Surely it's almost impossible to do this on an average attendance of 1300 (less than Stirling Albion). Wouldn't it be better to cut their cloth accordingly rather than scraping by in the manner that they've been doing for years?

If Clyde were to go part time it is inevitable relegation would soon follow. So as long as these opportunities come along they would be daft not to take it.

I think the major problem this year has been that attendances have been far lower than expected and therefore, there has been a shortfall to some extent that has been covered up by the cup money.

Regarding part-time football, it's a myth that it is definitely a cheaper option. Ultimately only Queens have survived regularly at this level in recent times with that sort of set-up and even they have now gone full-time.

It can't be that bad, most of the "Celtic" money went on an end of season tour of Canada.
I mean... what was the point? raise their International profile??? it's not that it can be argued that it had anything to do with preseason fitness or anything.

A lot of the Rangers money went on Solicitors and compensation to sort out the illegal sacking after the Canada trip which resulted from the Miller coup d'état.

They get a massive free handout every year from the Cup but every year they manage to piss it away through gross financial mismanagement. It's about time they are treated in the same way as any other club and allowed to sink or swim on their own. Other clubs would benefit much more from the money.

The long term future of the club financially is actually more positive than pretty much every other side in the country. The debt a few years back was around the £1.6 million mark. By June 08 it will be around £170k. We have an agreement to pay this debt off at £30k per year assuming we stay in the first division. We could conceivably therefore be completely debt free in 6 seasons (if we continue to stay up, otherwise we'd have to reduce how much we pay off per year).

Having entered into a Creditors Voluntary Agreement we are actually unable to go into any further debt whatsoever, so you could say we have 'cut our cloth' as much as we possibly can. The fact that we have a squad of around 16 players, 15 of which are barely legal to drink, is further testament as to how mcuh we have scaled down. The reason the money therefore is so imperative is that it would pay the wages of two additional starting quality players (be it on loan or otherwise) for two full seasons. This helps the starting 11 as well as the overall depth, which is currently non-existant. So this money in effect could be the difference between us staying up and being relegated. (sadly though, as David pointed out, this year we'll have to use a proportion of our Sky money to cover the fact that attendances have dropped a little).

In an ideal world we'd draw with United on Wed, and hope Sky cover the replay too lol.

Remind me who our "massive free handout" was from last year.

I'll help you out here. We lost in the 3rd round to Gretna at Broadwood, in front of a crowd of less than 1500, in a game that wasn't televised.

But being a Gretna fan you'll already know that.

We also lost in teh first round of the CIS cup - away to QOS. Again, it wasn't televised.
But I'm sure, being a Gretna fan , you'll know thhat too.

And for the record, none of the Celtic money went on the Canada tour. It went on giving new contracts to a lot of the players who were in the team that beat Celtic, and 2-year contracts at that.

it's who you know...everyone knows that.

Without North Lanarkshire Council's benevolence even the SFA could not save them.

Three paragraphs of absolute drivel.

None of the "Celtic" money went on the Canadian Tour.

None of the "Rangers" money went on the Graham Roberts situation.

No "massive handout" was received from the Cup last season.

You haven't really grasped the concept of posting on a public forum, have you?

Then where did all the money for taking the whole squad and hangers-on to Canada come from......

a massive rise in kwenchy cup sales last year.....Canada...it does not bear thinking about.....why Enron never took their staff to Barbados is a pertinent question....

I have to say if things are as bad as you are saying they are with barelky 16 players, a lot under 18 and all these restraints I have to take my hat off to how well Clyde have done these past few years, I dont think many teams will have been able to stay in the first division and spmetimes even challenge for promotion under these circumstances. A really quite amazing acheivment

Sorry to point out the obvious, but you need to get more people along to your stadium. The entire division is slow when it comes to marketing, and I still refuse to believe that we can't be drawing in more supporters. It's sad to see empty stands on match days.

I'm glad to hear about the cheap kids deals Clyde have (on another thread), but that isn't putting bums on stadium seats at the moment (at least, I truly hope you haven't hit your maximum number of supporters you'll ever see).

Another question about Clyde! Who's humpin who at Clyde and Sky?

Sky schedule for the whole week was full as of 1st thing this morning......yet they manage to squeeze another game in! Something dodgy going on there.

it helps when you get an annual financial boost to give you a leg up over your rivals ...... Queens are the amazing club...Clyde are whores.

obviously it wasn't that full was it Mr Burgundy. Sorry............ Perry

That evening at the hotel where they screened the match and had a buffet.

Dry 'em

and you believe that paid for 20+ people to go fly to Canada and tour around and still have enough for Miller to nick?


No wonder your Board get away with murder, do you work for Roberts and Miller Chartered Accountants or something?

It's good to see that the two clubs have agreed to reduce prices to £12 adults, £5 OAP/U16 and Parent and Child U12 to £14. Should hopefully mean a better attendance.

Regarding the Canada trip, as OC says, it was funded by the night at the Thistle hotel - Buffet, auction, raffle etc.

they are dry it's important though we find out the link between the sfa, clyde and sky. seriously it's wrong, if this had been a story about african/caribbean football McBeth would be shouting for action!!!



was that the £2000 a head sausage supper dinner....have you ever heard anything quite so stupid in your whole life?

It just goes to show that God is a Clyde fan. He works in mysterious ways, and procures Sky ties for us every time things look bad.

The fact that you are an atheist has led God to forsake Airdrie and all you efforts will come to naught.

There were things being auctioned off for 4 figures, including the match ball which Arthur Numan bought and then gave back to the club.

I think you'll find SKY is the tv choice of satan and his followers......I hope the soul of your club is worth 80grand....

£38.30 is not a four figure sum.

A raffle did not pay for your trip...talk sense man.

Do you believe that?

Not entirely sure why all the fuss is being made about Clyde appearing on Sky TV. Normally the criteria that tv companies tend to use for cup games is that they select a game where they think there could be a possible upset on the cards. It is therefore logical that they would opt for a game where a first division side is at home to an SPL side. Makes sense.

This was the case against Celtic a couple of seasons ago and we all know how that turned out. The way the draw worked out this season, to the best of my knowledge, there were only two ties that had a first division side at home to an SPL side. Clyde v Dundee Utd, and Morton v Gretna. So really Morton are the only club who could have a genuine gripe here. I think they were possibly hindered by the fact that Gretna have such a small support anyway, that anyway who desperately wanted to see the game woud probably attend. The city of Dundee is obviously massive compared to Gretna so there would likely be more viewers. So again, makes sense.

Sky Sports spent the whole week at Clyde and its probably safe to assume that their officials would have been shown around the ground etc and the Sky officials would in all liklihood have been keen to ascertain what the financial windfall would mean for a club our size. It is therefore only natural that with the game being cancelled that Sky would work closely with both clubs, the SFA, SFL, etc etc to try and work out some kind of deal which would allow the game to be televised if possible and that way everyone is a winner. Indeed officals of both clubs met for several hours on Sunday to try and work out a solution and eventually one was reached earlier this morning.

Please people, stop the nonsense and concentrate on your own club. If we had got a home tie against the likes of East Sitrling or Dumbarton then there wouldn't have been a hope of getting it covered by Sky. The luck of the draw helped us get that lucrative Sky match, nothing more, nothing less.

seriously...yes I think sky has ruined football.



I bet when the draw happened your heart sank cos it was a shite draw.

SKY officals courted by the club for a week....it gets worse...honestly just shut up your making it worse.

Why is Ron Burgundy even on this forum? I'm surprised he isn't getting a nosebleed due to how high up he is.

Touch of the sour grapes then Burgandy that your own team wasn't selected. Anyway moving on, when are you guys planning to join the first division again - I miss seing our players getting kicked off the park with the customary red card at some point in the game for one of your thugs.

And incidentally yeah it wasn't the draw I'd hoped for - I was desperate to put your mob out!

an existential question from a clyde fan....we really are entering the twilight zone here...... im here to get some information about what clyde directors sit on what committees within the sfa and to ascertain what John McBeths current input to scottish football is....perhaps a consultant for sky or consultant to g smith esquire?

I think this decision to screen this match stinks to high heaven....does that answer your question?

unless you just arrived in a converted delorean from 1995 your notion of how airdrie play football is retarded....ask anyone they are a lightweight passing team.

It is sour grapes but based upon what I think is underhand actions by certain folk.

Game was due to be screened, then cancelled. Game now rescheduled and being shown as was initally planned. You however have yet to explain why you believe they shouldn't have shown it. As I stated earlier - sour grapes!

really I thought it was plain on several threads.

I believe that Clyde are for some reason being treated favourably by SKY television.

Not even the most ardent clyde fan would argue the game was the standout game of the round.....the rose queens game was the one for the romance of the cup....hearts motherwell for obvious reasons.

Clyde, despite a shit draw bag their second live televised cup match in two years.

I think sky are courting officals at clyde for nefarious purposes, which I assume is to do with the sky coverage of scotland home games which is an sfa matter.

clear enough?

Of course it would have nothing at all to do with the fact that Clyde gave them one of their best Scottish match days in years two years ago, and that Broadwood lends itself well to accomodating all the paraphanalia Sky bring with them.

No of course not, that would be too logical and won't fit your twisted little anti-Clyde agenda at all. Can't have that!

Are you Jim Traynor? Airdrie supporter, self opinionated, unwilling to listen to anyone elses opinion, talking bitter shite half the time........hmm, that would fit!

Well tell me what committees your directors sit on and what McBeths current input intio scottish footy is....sky's procurement consultant perhaps

as an aside how long are you fannies planning to dine out on beating celtic....best scottish ciup days in years.....is there a living the dream book about that day?

Already pointed out it is you who has Mr Ballantyne on a committee!

Bye Alias man

You are the one who keeps bringing it up, thanks for the memory.

Oh, and...

yes I have spent 5000 posts creating this alias just for this occasion.....league committee my cognitively stunted travelling friend.

the sfa do the cup business.

are clyde giving mental health discounts to fans these days?

I for one will not be watching this game. Probably get a re-run of Friends or something on ITV7.

it's an achievment right enough......feast on!

I don't have sky but will be smashing my tv into pieces just to make sure.

Yes, feel free to come along for your pills. If you hang around long enough you can make the coffee for ours and SKY's BOD's who will be having lord lucan along, watching a newreel of the moon landings. On a grassy knoll.

In fact there's a point. Lets go all Burgundy and post your favorite nonsense conspiracy theories here......

I'll start.. Clyde have both the SFA and SKY in their pockets

it's classic small man in blazer dazzled by moneymen.

i'm happy for you, another year of struggling abysmally is just what you all deserve.

Great post, even if Burgundy is on the wind-up.

Sometimes, Pie and bovril is wonderful. This is one of those moments.

I'm sure Clyde will be gutted by your failure to tune in

And the SFL had to sanction any rearrangement, my 'friend' from the most dismal town in Scotland. But, hey thank JB for us when you next get within shouting distance of him and his Rolls. That must be a welcome sight in Airdrie


PS 5000 posts and this is the first time I've noticed you. You should try fake anger more often.

rubber stamping a decision is in no way comparable to making the decision.

He drives a bentley I think.

Your club is an embarrassing mess of a shambles and it is beyond parody that they make a press release advising the country of what a bunch of cack handed fuckwits they are in the first place.

I hope you lot are ready for a fall this season......at least we were financially stable and shite...you lot are shite and cannae do your sums.

Since about 2003, and it will come one day. We know it, everyone knows it, you get orgasmic about it.