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Garrowhillclyde
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Exuberant
QUOTE (Alan Cowan, Chairman)
"you can bet your bottom dollar that knuckles will be rapped. It's something that will be deal with.
"The truth of the matter is that the heating wasn't switched on because the groundsman didn't expect it to be quite as cold as it was overnight and I think he also expected it to be sunnier this afternoon which would clear any frost"


QUOTE (How it should be done)
"I can only apologise for the postponement due to the frozen pitch at Firhill today, to the fans in general and especially to all of those who travelled considerable distances to attend the match. Whilst mistakes happen, we understand that our fundemental failure to ensure that the undersoil heating was on overnight was unacceptable and we are looking further into the matter to try to prevent similar mistakes being made in the future with regard to this facility.

We share the frustration of the fans in the late nature of the call off, and are now aware that some fans had, wrongly, been given the impression that the match was not in doubt earlier on in the morning. This was due to a breakdown in communication at the ground, which should have been entirely avoidable. Similarly, we will be looking to rectify our standard procedure at games to make sure that fans are given the right information in the event of a future game being brought into question because of the weather or other circumstances."
Deeboy
Good Luck to Partick Thistle.

I'm rooting for an all 1st Division final.

F*ck The Old Firm happy.gif
Mr Roberts
QUOTE (Deeboy @ Jan 13 2008, 02:03) *
Good Luck to Partick Thistle.

I'm rooting for an all 1st Division final.

F*ck The Old Firm happy.gif

a Thistle Vs Queen of the South final with be a good game....
itsmee
QUOTE (Garrowhillclyde @ Jan 13 2008, 01:48) *


Did the council not install UHS at the three sided old firm reserve match stadium ??

Glad to see it looks like costing you a fortune now you wont be on telly !!!!!
DAFC






"He didn't expect it to be so cold overnight and also expected the weather to be sunnier this afternoon which would clear the frost.

"Grounds haring with the Warriors means the SRU are responsible for maintenance of the pitch. Our own regular groundsman is no longer in day-to-day control.

"The under soil heating wasn't switched on until first thing this morning. It's a lesson learned.

"You can bet you're bottom dollar knuckles will be rapped for this."

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monthebullywee
Under-soil heating is a method used in various sports stadiums (that have grass as their main surface) which heats the underside of the pitch to avoid any bad weather, such as snow and ice, from building up and ultimately avoids the club from having to postpone any matches


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capello
At the end of the day it was all down to pure greed .
Livi and Partick should be fined heavy for this ...
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vikingTON
QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 13:45) *
At the end of the day it was all down to pure greed .
Livi and Partick should be fined heavy for this ...
mad.gif


I'd say a points deduction would be more suitable... tongue.gif
Mancubus
QUOTE (monthebullywee @ Jan 13 2008, 13:25) *
Under-soil heating is a method used in various sports stadiums (that have grass as their main surface) which heats the underside of the pitch to avoid any bad weather, such as snow and ice, from building up and ultimately avoids the club from having to postpone any matches


wink.gif some helpful information

and as a Livi fan pointed out to be effective the USH should be switched on for a couple of days before the event, which the outside contractors never did, so unfortunately both sets of supporters lose out and the club loses out financially due to a mistake made by a firm who were sub-contracted to maintain the playing surface at Firhill.
Nizzy
QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 13:45) *
At the end of the day it was all down to pure greed .

How do you work that one out?
DAFC
Sorry but even with outside contractors nobody at the club decided to check that the heating was on?
Utter bullshit.
Scotchpie
QUOTE (itsmee @ Jan 13 2008, 12:57) *
Did the council not install UHS at the three sided old firm reserve match stadium ??

Glad to see it looks like costing you a fortune now you wont be on telly !!!!!



Whats it like to follow a team named after a shit tip 6 miles away?
Garrowhillclyde
QUOTE (Mancubus @ Jan 13 2008, 13:52) *
and as a Livi fan pointed out to be effective the USH should be switched on for a couple of days before the event, which the outside contractors never did, so unfortunately both sets of supporters lose out and the club loses out financially due to a mistake made by a firm who were sub-contracted to maintain the playing surface at Firhill.


So for all these days that the undersoil heating should have been on for, the PTFC decided not to check and leave it to a third party? NOT ONE person at PTFC thought to ask?

Just when I thought that Clyde were lacking in the common sense department, PTFC restore some faith with a display of top notch diddyness. laugh.gif
Nizzy
QUOTE (DAFC @ Jan 13 2008, 13:59) *
Sorry but even with outside contractors nobody at the club decided to check that the heating was on?
Utter bullshit.

I've posted something similar on the domestic cup forum, but do you still believe Thistle deliberately left the ush off in the hope of having the game postponed, completely disregarding any loss in revenue, negative publicity and possible sanctions imposed by the SFA?

If you do, then you're clearly a mentalist.
DAFC
Thistle were out the cup yesterday, one striker and out of form.
Nizzy
QUOTE (Garrowhillclyde @ Jan 13 2008, 14:06) *
So for all these days that the undersoil heating should have been on for, the PTFC decided not to check and leave it to a third party? NOT ONE person at PTFC thought to ask?

Garrowhillclyde, the whole debacle has highlighted just how idiotic those in charge of Thistle can be. You'll be hard pressed to find any Thistle fan who's willing to dispute that.

However, the conspiracy theories being peddled by idiots like DAFC are beginning to annoy me, as is the thought of the bigwigs at Livi rubbing their hands in glee, safe in the knowledge that their complete disregard and the contempt with which they hold the Scottish Cup is being overshadowed by the incompetence displayed by our BoD.
Nizzy
QUOTE (DAFC @ Jan 13 2008, 14:11) *
Thistle were out the cup yesterday, one striker and out of form.

So let's get this straight, you DO believe that Thistle deliberately left the ush off in a bid to have the game postponed due to having two strikers sidelined by injury, despite knowing they'd lose out on a substantial sum of money?

Anyway, whose to say we wouldn't have deployed a 4-5-1 formation or even moved Scott Chaplain up fornt (it's obvious he can score goals) and pumped you asses out of the cup? Going by our last meeting at Firhill, the only thing we had to fear was inept defending from our own team and the form of Paul Gallagher.
capello
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 14:57) *
How do you work that one out?



Simple ,Your chairman wanted to save money by not using the undersoil heating and tried to take a gamble the game would be ok to go ahead ,looks like its backfired big style,its like buying a fancy car and not having the money to put petrol in it!!! biggrin.gif

PTFC the great glasgow alternitive,when its not cold!!! tongue.gif
Ron Burgundy
whether it's deliberate or by accident it's fucking priceless.

Exuberant
QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 14:25) *
Simple ,Your chairman wanted to save money by not using the undersoil heating and tried to take a gamble the game would be ok to go ahead ,looks like its backfired big style,its like buying a fancy car and not having the money to put petrol in it!!! biggrin.gif

PTFC the great glasgow alternitive,when its not cold!!! tongue.gif


sorry, how does that work? if it was a money saving scheme we wouldn't have bothered to turn on the USH in the morning, would we?
Nizzy
QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 14:25) *
Simple ,Your chairman wanted to save money by not using the undersoil heating and tried to take a gamble the game would be ok to go ahead ,looks like its backfired big style,its like buying a fancy car and not having the money to put petrol in it!!! biggrin.gif

So you think our board, which includes at least one chartered accountant, would be willing to risk the loss of revenue that's resulted from this farce? Why, if that's the case, did they even bother to switch on the ush yesterday morning? The could simply have done what Livi appear to have done and say it was purely down to cost. Thus avoiding all the associated bad publicity.

As for your comment about buying a fancy car, USH is required in the SPL. I suggest you wait until Morton are in such a position before commenting on it. In the meantime, your club can continue throwing hundreds of thousands of pounds at donkeys like Chris Tmepleman. That's not laughable in the slightest, is it?
strathbrock
QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 13:45) *
At the end of the day it was all down to pure greed .
Livi and Partick should be fined heavy for this ...
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Until such time as the SFA insist that all clubs have undersoil heating then it is up to those who have it to decide when it will be switched on. If it is not cost effective at Livi to pay for electricity why should they lose more money just because at one point they were forced to have it installed. It is no secret that it is not switched on for games like the one yesterday and the game was called off in plenty of time for the Cowden fans to cancel their journeys.

The weather was the reason the games were called. All this girning is due to either fans being disappointed or to folk enjoying having a swipe at other teams.
Exuberant
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 14:32) *
So you think our board, which includes at least one chartered accountant, would be willing to risk the loss of revenue that's resulted from this farce? Why, if that's the case, did they even bother to switch on the ush yesterday morning? The could simply have done what Livi appear to have done and say it was purely down to cost. Thus avoiding all the associated bad publicity.

As for your comment about buying a fancy car, USH is required in the SPL. I suggest you wait until Morton are in such a position before commenting on it. In the meantime, your club can continue throwing hundreds of thousands of pounds at donkeys like Chris Tmepleman. That's not laughable in the slightest, is it?


Sack the Board, and put Nizzy in the new one tongue.gif
vikingTON
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 14:32) *
So you think our board, which includes at least one chartered accountant, would be willing to risk the loss of revenue that's resulted from this farce? Why, if that's the case, did they even bother to switch on the ush yesterday morning? The could simply have done what Livi appear to have done and say it was purely down to cost. Thus avoiding all the associated bad publicity.

As for your comment about buying a fancy car, USH is required in the SPL. I suggest you wait until Morton are in such a position before commenting on it. In the meantime, your club can continue throwing hundreds of thousands of pounds at donkeys like Chris Tmepleman. That's not laughable in the slightest, is it?


You could argue that the USH was switched on in an attempt to get the game on while minimising the time spent with it on.
I don't know whether that's the case or whether it was plain incompetence.
Given certain SPL sides failure to lay matches over the last week really there should be no need for USH at all - in particular at Cappielow - covers claim to offer frost protection until temperatures of about -4C and our location at sea level, on the river bank in a built-up area on the West coast means its highly unlikely that -4 would occur.
And I'll have you know our transfer policy has been revolutionised within the last week by a meeting of the minds betwen chairman and manager - watch this space. smile.gif
Garrowhillclyde
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 14:12) *
Garrowhillclyde, the whole debacle has highlighted just how idiotic those in charge of Thistle can be. You'll be hard pressed to find any Thistle fan who's willing to dispute that.

However, the conspiracy theories being peddled by idiots like DAFC are beginning to annoy me, as is the thought of the bigwigs at Livi rubbing their hands in glee, safe in the knowledge that their complete disregard and the contempt with which they hold the Scottish Cup is being overshadowed by the incompetence displayed by our BoD.


Nizzy, I dont for a single second think there was some form of intent by Partick. I just think it was pretty unforgivable incompetence. Blaming someone else just makes it look even more amateurish.

Anyhoo, made the sting of us loosing the SKY tie that bit more bearable dry.gif
Nizzy
QUOTE (vikingTON @ Jan 13 2008, 14:38) *
You could argue that the USH was switched on in an attempt to get the game on while minimising the time spent with it on.

If that were the case, it certainly blows the conspiracy theorists out of the water, doesn't it?
monthebullywee
QUOTE (Mancubus @ Jan 13 2008, 13:52) *
and as a Livi fan pointed out to be effective the USH should be switched on for a couple of days before the event, which the outside contractors never did, so unfortunately both sets of supporters lose out and the club loses out financially due to a mistake made by a firm who were sub-contracted to maintain the playing surface at Firhill.



lf so you had a couple of days to check its was on and no c**t did but to blame sub contracters laugh.gif
vikingTON
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 14:41) *
If that were the case, it certainly blows the conspiracy theorists out of the water, doesn't it?


Yeah, I don't think for a minute the game was deliberately cancelled because of a striker shortage.
Exuberant
QUOTE (monthebullywee @ Jan 13 2008, 14:41) *
lf so you had a couple of days to check its was on and no c**t did


such as is the incompetence of our club, yes!
Nizzy
QUOTE (Garrowhillclyde @ Jan 13 2008, 14:39) *
Nizzy, I dont for a single second think there was some form of intent by Partick. I just think it was pretty unforgivable incompetence. Blaming someone else just makes it look even more amateurish.

Agreed.

Why do Clyde have to have such agreeable posters? I'm supposed to hate you chunts, am I not?
Garrowhillclyde
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 15:43) *
Agreed.

Why do Clyde have to have such agreeable posters? I'm supposed to hate you chunts, am I not?



Och alright then. As one of our Airdrie chums pointed out it is priceless. Priceless laugh and point meterial which I plan to bring up a fair bit. Har har har get it right up you sideyways! laugh.gif laugh.gif

To be honest to accuse the jags board of intent in this would be to credit them with more intelligence than they have. laugh.gif

thank f**k you guys have them in charge - you would be streets ahead of us in every way if it were not for them!
Nizzy
QUOTE (Garrowhillclyde @ Jan 13 2008, 14:52) *
Och alright then. As one of our Airdrie chums pointed out it is priceless. Priceless laugh and point meterial which I plan to bring up a fair bit. Har har har get it right up you sideyways! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Swivel, ya p***k. Aaaah, that feels much better.
capello
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 15:32) *
So you think our board, which includes at least one chartered accountant, would be willing to risk the loss of revenue that's resulted from this farce? Why, if that's the case, did they even bother to switch on the ush yesterday morning? The could simply have done what Livi appear to have done and say it was purely down to cost. Thus avoiding all the associated bad publicity.

As for your comment about buying a fancy car, USH is required in the SPL. I suggest you wait until Morton are in such a position before commenting on it. In the meantime, your club can continue throwing hundreds of thousands of pounds at donkeys like Chris Tmepleman. That's not laughable in the slightest, is it?



The fact you have accountants on your board does that not suggest this was a penny pinching decision,taken on accountants advice?
How many times have you lot risked it and got away with it in the past?.

Throw all sorts of insults at our stadium if you want,heard them all before!! biggrin.gif
Is that grassy knoll behind your goal and the condemmed main stand serving any purpose ?.
Firhill used to be a good ground,now its a tip!! laugh.gif


Theres no getting away from it ,you lot look like fannies!!



Nizzy
QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 14:25) *
its like buying a fancy car and not having the money to put petrol in it!!! biggrin.gif



QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 14:56) *
The fact you have accountants on your board does that not suggest this was a penny pinching decision,taken on accountants advice?
How many times have you lot risked it and got away with it in the past?.

Throw all sorts of insults at our stadium if you want,heard them all before!! biggrin.gif
Is that grassy knoll behind your goal and the condemmed main stand serving any purpose ?.
Firhill used to be a good ground,now its a tip!! laugh.gif


Theres no getting away from it ,you lot look like fannies!!

Ok, firstly, accountants don't like losing money in any circumstances, so I'm quite safe in the knowledge that this wasn't a deliberate ploy to have the game postponed, as that would, and has, resulted in substantial losses.

Secondly, I wasn't poking fun at your stadium, I was poking fun at your decision to splash the cash on temps. You said installing ush and then being unable to run it was akin to buying a fancy car and then not being able to pay for the petrol. Buying Chris Templeman for hundreds of thousands of pounds is the equivalent of paying Porsche prices for a Lada.

Thirdly, "we" don't look like fannies, our BoD do.

But, come to think of it, "we" and Morton compliment each other. Losing out on promotion to the First Division because you can't dispense of a part-time outfit over two legs, paying big money for duds, saying players that are due to leave for St Johnstone will never play for Morton again and then playing them, plus getting hammered 6-1 at Livingston, well, that makes you look like a bunch of cocks, doesn't it?


capello
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 16:07) *
Ok, firstly, accountants don't like losing money in any circumstances, so I'm quite safe in the knowledge that this wasn't a deliberate ploy to have the game postponed, as that would, and has, resulted in substantial losses.

Secondly, I wasn't poking fun at your stadium, I was poking fun at your decision to splash the cash on temps. You said installing ush and then being unable to run it was akin to buying a fancy car and then not being able to pay for the petrol. Buying Chris Templeman for hundreds of thousands of pounds is the equivalent of paying Porsche prices for a Lada.

Thirdly, "we" don't look like fannies, our BoD do.

But, come to think of it, "we" and Morton compliment each other. Losing out on promotion to the First Division because you can't dispense of a part-time outfit over two legs, paying big money for duds, saying players that are due to leave for St Johnstone will never play for Morton again and then playing them, plus getting hammered 6-1 at Livingston, well, that makes you look like a bunch of cocks, doesn't it?



No !
Nizzy
QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 15:09) *
No !

Yes, it does, petal.

I'm not disputing the fact we're currently point and laugh material, but our situation doesn't suddenly make clubs like Morton some kind of shining example the rest of us should all aspire to be like.
capello
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 16:18) *
Yes, it does, petal.

I'm not disputing the fact we're currently point and laugh material, but our situation doesn't suddenly make clubs like Morton some kind of shining example the rest of us should all aspire to be like.



Get a set of covers like us ,none of yer pishy undersoil heating that you lot cant afford to feed the meter for and you will not be point and laugh material!!

Heres a pic of the pars fans up at the canal who seem to be pointing and laughing!! laugh.gif
Nizzy
QUOTE (capello @ Jan 13 2008, 15:24) *
Get a set of covers like us ,none of yer pishy undersoil heating that you lot cant afford to feed the meter for and you will not be point and laugh material!!

Morton's position next to the Clyde means that games are less likely to be called off due to frost. It's not as simple as putting covers over the pitch.

As has been noted on numerous occasions, yesterday's farce was down to incompetence and was not a penny-pinching exercise.

But what the hell, keep posting away, you're giving me plenty off opportunities to stick the boot into Morton. Thanks for that.
vikingTON
QUOTE (Nizzy @ Jan 13 2008, 15:33) *
Morton's position next to the Clyde means that games are less likely to be called off due to frost. It's not as simple as putting covers over the pitch.


That is why, sir, there should be absolutely no need for USH to be instalkled at Cappielow.
The covers provide protection adequate for all but severe winter forsts, that simply don't occur on the Clyde Riviera.
This should allow us to spend the money elsewhere on classy new signings such as Ryan McGuffie, rather than acts of desperation like Chris Templeman.
Naturally. wink.gif
third lanark
QUOTE (vikingTON @ Jan 13 2008, 15:38) *
That is why, sir, there should be absolutely no need for USH to be instalkled at Cappielow.
The covers provide protection adequate for all but severe winter forsts, that simply don't occur on the Clyde Riviera.
This should allow us to spend the money elsewhere on classy new signings such as Ryan McGuffie, rather than acts of desperation like Chris Templeman.
Naturally. wink.gif

I thought we had to install them to meet SPL criteria that and the stupid 10000 seats at that time
vikingTON
QUOTE (third lanark @ Jan 13 2008, 16:29) *
I thought we had to install them to meet SPL criteria that and the stupid 10000 seats at that time


You may have, but we don't intend to be in the SPL for a long time, by which time the USH criteria should have been removed, like the moronic 10,00 seats rule.
Although I can remember problems with frozen pitches a couple of years back in the SPL. unsure.gif
third lanark
QUOTE (Garrowhillclyde @ Jan 13 2008, 14:39) *
Nizzy, I dont for a single second think there was some form of intent by Partick. I just think it was pretty unforgivable incompetence. Blaming someone else just makes it look even more amateurish.

Anyhoo, made the sting of us loosing the SKY tie that bit more bearable dry.gif

There has been nio decision on the rearranged tie so doesnt necessarily mean you have lost it?
To cheer you up the News of the World says you have signed Pat Clark who I would liked Thistle to have signed. Think he will be an excellent signing for yous
Garrowhillclyde
QUOTE (third lanark @ Jan 13 2008, 17:36) *
There has been nio decision on the rearranged tie so doesnt necessarily mean you have lost it?

No decision as yet, but I aint counting my chickens. In fact I dont even know where the eggs are!

QUOTE (third lanark @ Jan 13 2008, 17:36) *
To cheer you up the News of the World says you have signed Pat Clark who I would liked Thistle to have signed. Think he will be an excellent signing for yous


Not quite. I believe it says we are close to signing rather than the all important 'have signed'.
Larbert_Par
Total bullshit statement from PTFC on their website as well.

They've cocked this up, its their ground, their home tie, therefore they are accountable. An absolute shambles, and I advocate dirt cheap entry to the re-arranged game.
ClydebankJag
No doubt about it our directors ar$ed it up. I think that it was left off hoping to scrape through without it and was then switched on in the morning in an attempt to get the game on but it was too little too late.

As stated by the Morton fan Firhill is indeed a tip these days with the unused stand which hasn't been tidied up in a long time and the hill at the south end, though that is now better with a bit of grass on it rather than the mud. I have to laugh though that he doesn't seem to realise Morton would have to spend a few million to get Cappielow up to the standard of our tip!!

Glasgowjag
QUOTE (ClydebankJag @ Jan 13 2008, 17:57) *
No doubt about it our directors ar$ed it up. I think that it was left off hoping to scrape through without it and was then switched on in the morning in an attempt to get the game on but it was too little too late.

As stated by the Morton fan Firhill is indeed a tip these days with the unused stand which hasn't been tidied up in a long time and the hill at the south end, though that is now better with a bit of grass on it rather than the mud. I have to laugh though that he doesn't seem to realise Morton would have to spend a few million to get Cappielow up to the standard of our tip!!


i used to have some pride in having Firhill as Thistles ground

now its a bit of an embarrasment sad.gif
CRM
QUOTE (Larbert_Par @ Jan 13 2008, 17:46) *
Total bullshit statement from PTFC on their website as well.

They've cocked this up, its their ground, their home tie, therefore they are accountable. An absolute shambles, and I advocate dirt cheap entry to the re-arranged game.


Dry your eyes, you whinging fife git. rolleyes.gif
Exuberant
QUOTE (CRM @ Jan 13 2008, 22:13) *
Dry your eyes, you whinging fife git. rolleyes.gif


whilst he is unrealistically asking for "dirt cheap" admission as a gesture to the fans when the club has already lost thousands because of this incident, he is right about the incompetence and also the farcical approach to this debacle our Club has taken.
Larbert_Par
QUOTE (partickfan @ Jan 13 2008, 22:15) *
whilst he is unrealistically asking for "dirt cheap" admission as a gesture to the fans when the club has already lost thousands because of this incident, he is right about the incompetence and also the farcical approach to this debacle our Club has taken.

Not our fault though.

If the pitch was unplayable, the game should've been called off long before fans of both teams made the trip. To call it off with just over an hour until kick off is a shambles. Obviously "dirt cheap" isn't going to happen, but they least Thistle can do is slash prices to a tenner and a fiver as a gesture of goodwill to both sets of fans.

I'll hopefully be going to the game a week on Tuesday anyway, but I would rather the game had taken place yesterday even though I couldn't attend. The statement from PTFC does nothing except to try and shift the blame on to someone else- if they simply hold their hands up and admitted it was their responsibility then they might not receive as much stick as they're getting.
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