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Mushroom
Allegedly he's coming to Clyde.

We badly need someone who can score goals, is he the man for the job?
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE (ochil-clyde @ Jan 8 2008, 16:00) *
Allegedly he's coming to Clyde.

We badly need someone who can score goals, is he the man for the job?


Yes, was never given a run in the team under Dalziel and it came back to haunt him when he scored two in a 3-1 victory for Cowden at Starks.

I almost celebrated when he scored as it proved I had been right all along and that Dalziel didn't have a fucking clue what he was doing!!!

He also had a loan spell at Arbroath and they seemed to rate him highly as well smile.gif
Toddy
QUOTE (Steven @ Jan 8 2008, 16:03) *
Yes, was never given a run in the team under Dalziel and it came back to haunt him when he scored two in a 3-1 victory for Cowden at Starks.

I almost celebrated when he scored as it proved I had been right all along and that Dalziel didn't have a fucking clue what he was doing!!!

He also had a loan spell at Arbroath and they seemed to rate him highly as well smile.gif


Should never have let him go.. sad.gif
Yoss
Yeah, I always rated him from what little we saw of him at Raith, not surprised he's done well at Cowdenbeath.
Mushroom
Souns good.

He's got to be better than our current crop at least.
Yoss
Is Imrie moving on? There was some talk of it.
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE (Toddy @ Jan 8 2008, 16:10) *
Should never have let him go.. sad.gif


Yep, he was miles better than the players Dalziel did pick to play upfront in Crabbe & Jablonski (I rated him but he was never a striker)

I think he would have made the perfect foil for McManus as well unsure.gif
Mushroom
QUOTE (Yoss @ Jan 8 2008, 16:12) *
Is Imrie moving on? There was some talk of it.


Possibly, all the first division clubs seem to have joined in the bandwagon, despite the fact Nottingham Forest are interested.

I wonder who he'd choose. rolleyes.gif
Mon the Rovers
Yep Rovers fans, lets start a love-in for Clarke again rolleyes.gif

I thought he was a decent enough player who didn't get too many chances under Dalziel (he had some, and wasted them) but he's nowhere near the player some of our fans make him out to be.

I still reckon he'll be a decent signing for Clyde though, but he's nowhere nearly as good as our fans think.
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE (Mon the Rovers @ Jan 8 2008, 16:16) *
Yep Rovers fans, lets start a love-in for Clarke again rolleyes.gif

I thought he was a decent enough player who didn't get too many chances under Dalziel (he had some, and wasted them) but he's nowhere near the player some of our fans make him out to be.

I still reckon he'll be a decent signing for Clyde though, but he's nowhere nearly as good as our fans think.


I never suggested her was a world-beater rolleyes.gif but more than good enough to get a game for us at the time when we were struggling for goals huh.gif

Also we were rumoured to have been sniffing around him close-season as well I think unsure.gif
BerwickMad
Couldnt score and missed sitter after sitter down here. Must have improved loads.
NELLY
quite surprised to hear that clyde are after him. We heard raith were going to offer him a deal. I think Pat does wish to leave to move on to a bigger club. No doubt he is a good player however not the best finisher you will get. Works extremly hard and is very quick and strong. Dont know but im sure a fee would have to come our way if he is leaving during this transfer window.

Mone the cowden
HIBERNIAN-FC
QUOTE (ochil-clyde @ Jan 8 2008, 16:00) *
Allegedly he's coming to Clyde.

We badly need someone who can score goals, is he the man for the job?


Do Clyde have a spare 30-40k if not it wont happen rolleyes.gif
mn07
QUOTE (HIBERNIAN-FC @ Jan 8 2008, 19:32) *
Do Clyde have a spare 30-40k if not it wont happen rolleyes.gif


he's nowhere near worth 30-40k . laugh.gif laugh.gif
Mel Hutchwright
QUOTE (Steven @ Jan 8 2008, 16:03) *
He also had a loan spell at Arbroath and they seemed to rate him highly as well smile.gif


I certainly did. Took him a few games to find his feet but when he did he was really impressive and a real hard working, physical presence up front. Him and Alan Brazil really clicked and were a fine strike partnership for us.

I wasn't very impressed when Raith recalled him from his loan spell to us and then left him festering in their reserves for the most part.
Duracell Bunny
QUOTE (Mel Hutchwright @ Jan 8 2008, 21:11) *
I wasn't very impressed when Raith recalled him from his loan spell to us and then left him festering in their reserves for the most part.


Neither were we mate sad.gif
CALDERON
An alrite player, no better than Hissy tho.
Mairy Hinge07
QUOTE (Steven @ Jan 8 2008, 16:17) *
I never suggested her was a world-beater rolleyes.gif but more than good enough to get a game for us at the time when we were struggling for goals huh.gif

Also we were rumoured to have been sniffing around him close-season as well I think unsure.gif



Lets be honest, he was never going to stop us from going down. He was neglected as a player at the Rovers and come back to haunt us but i personaly would not fear him when he plays against us. The only reason i would expect him to score against the Rovers is because he is an ex player and it always happens to us.
Mushroom
QUOTE (HIBERNIAN-FC @ Jan 8 2008, 19:32) *
Do Clyde have a spare 30-40k if not it wont happen rolleyes.gif


30-40k laugh.gif

We got 30k for TWO players that went to an SPL club.

and 5k for our captain last season (but the alternative was nothing 6 months later)

The absolute most we'll have to pay would be 5k I'd imagine.
mn07
QUOTE (ochil-clyde @ Jan 8 2008, 22:01) *
30-40k laugh.gif

We got 30k for TWO players that went to an SPL club.

and 5k for our captain last season (but the alternative was nothing 6 months later)

The absolute most we'll have to pay would be 5k I'd imagine.


Yes, AT MOST. He's probably not worth a fee but some compensation may be in order
zico
Pat is under 24 so Cowden would be due compensation. Exactly the same situation with Liam Buchanan last season and Partick had to cough up £20,000 so Clarke wont be going for anything less. Also from what I have heard Pat is undecided about the move anyway. May well happen but is certainly not a done deal and will cost Clyde if it does go ahead.
The Minertaur
I would be gutted if Pat Clarke left. Cracking player. We would definetly be due compensation from Clyde if he was too leave now
Raith Born and Bred
If Cowden are to stay up this season (And hopefully they do) Pat Clarke may well be a key element. Bags of potential, can score goals anyone who knows anything about football knows this about the lad (Hence they reason Dalziel didn't have a fucking clue laugh.gif )
But on the other hand, Cowden could use the money to invest in other areas of the team. Either way it would be a tough choice for the Cowden board to make.
Whistle Blower
QUOTE (Mon the Rovers @ Jan 8 2008, 16:16) *
Yep Rovers fans, lets start a love-in for Clarke again rolleyes.gif

I thought he was a decent enough player who didn't get too many chances under Dalziel (he had some, and wasted them) but he's nowhere near the player some of our fans make him out to be.


Well said that man.
Monster
QUOTE (zico @ Jan 8 2008, 22:18) *
Pat is under 24 so Cowden would be due compensation. Exactly the same situation with Liam Buchanan last season and Partick had to cough up £20,000 so Clarke wont be going for anything less. Also from what I have heard Pat is undecided about the move anyway. May well happen but is certainly not a done deal and will cost Clyde if it does go ahead.


If I was him all things considered I would stay where I was. The extra money he'd be getting in wages would be offset by the risk of not getting them paid (which is possible at Clyde pretty soon) and the lack of enjoyment at playing in a gloomy stadium at a crappy struggling club, albeit in the 1st Division.

At least Cowden are a well run club with a good dressing room atmosphere.
Kierkegaard
QUOTE (Raith Born and Bred @ Jan 8 2008, 23:30) *
If Cowden are to stay up this season (And hopefully they do) Pat Clarke may well be a key element. Bags of potential, can score goals anyone who knows anything about football knows this about the lad (Hence they reason Dalziel didn't have a fucking clue laugh.gif )
But on the other hand, Cowden could use the money to invest in other areas of the team. Either way it would be a tough choice for the Cowden board to make.

The reality is that Cowden get good young players to sign for them by promising that if a higher club comes in for them, the club won't stand in their way. Clyde will have to come up with adequate compensation, though.
Monster
QUOTE (Kierkegaard @ Jan 9 2008, 12:16) *
Clyde will have to come up with adequate compensation, though.


I' be amazed if Clyde could afford any kind of transfer fee, and if they agree to the deal make sure Cowden get the money up front.
Whistle Blower
QUOTE (Kierkegaard @ Jan 9 2008, 12:16) *
The reality is that Cowden get good young players to sign for them by promising that if a higher club comes in for them, the club won't stand in their way. Clyde will have to come up with adequate compensation, though.


I remember Cowden used to give the players a %age of any transfer fee they earned, is that still the case ?
CowdenLoyal
QUOTE (Whistle Blower @ Jan 9 2008, 12:24) *
I remember Cowden used to give the players a %age of any transfer fee they earned, is that still the case ?


Yes
Stree83
Pat Clarke scored a double against Clyde on his debut for the Rovers a few years back did he not? I think the game finnished 3-3.
rw89
QUOTE (Stree83 @ Jan 9 2008, 20:44) *
Pat Clarke scored a double against Clyde on his debut for the Rovers a few years back did he not? I think the game finnished 3-3.

Match report
Stree83
QUOTE (rw89 @ Jan 9 2008, 20:49) *



I thought i was right, that was a great game and superb performance by Clarke, not only did he score two goals but his work rate and link up play were excellent that day.
Mon the Rovers
QUOTE (Whistle Blower @ Jan 9 2008, 08:38) *
Well said that man.


I'm glad someone else had their eyes open when watching him play, and didn't just hide behind the fact that because Dalziel never played him, he must be great.

He made something like 12 appearances that season, and he was on loan at Arbroath for a few months.

He scored once, I think.
Yoss
That Clyde game is the one I mostly remember him by, he looked an excellent prospect that day.

I was out the country for most of the following season so he may well have been pish then but I didn't see it.
Mon The Clyde
QUOTE (Monster @ Jan 9 2008, 12:18) *
I' be amazed if Clyde could afford any kind of transfer fee, and if they agree to the deal make sure Cowden get the money up front.

The Sky money would cover that up, easily.
Monster
QUOTE (Mon The Clyde @ Jan 10 2008, 17:10) *
The Sky money would cover that up, easily.


Oh aye, sorry, right enough.
Mushroom
QUOTE (Monster @ Jan 9 2008, 09:30) *
If I was him all things considered I would stay where I was. The extra money he'd be getting in wages would be offset by the risk of not getting them paid (which is possible at Clyde pretty soon) and the lack of enjoyment at playing in a gloomy stadium at a crappy struggling club, albeit in the 1st Division.

At least Cowden are a well run club with a good dressing room atmosphere.


Total nonsense.

We're long past that kind of thing.

Also, we're quite clearly in the same block of the table as the likes of Partick, Livingston, Morton and Dunfermline, so they're all "struggling" too.

Ignoring the statistics, we know we're shite right now, but we also know a good striker would improve the team beyond belief. We defend well, create chances, then squander them.
Only coo in the village
Will be gutted to see Pat go but would rather see him sign for Clyde than Raith Rovers. It is no coincidence that our recent slump in form began when he picked up his current injury. Brian Welsh is bringing in attacking players and im sure he will move on during the transfer window. Unfortuneately a club like Cowden has no choice but to sell on it's best players and it would be unfair to block their progress. It looks like we have a good crop of youngsters coming through though so no need to be too gloomy wink.gif .
Cowden til i die
If Patdoes go staying up will be tough, Ayr are our only hope. Alot will rest on Bingo, hopefully he wont be a flop like slippers. However if Pat does stay and we get everyone fit and playing in there proper position we will be ok
Blueminer
Signed a pre contract with Clyde.
Ron Burgundy
how can insolvent club buy things on the never never......kind of makes the insolvent thing a birraofjoke!
Blueminer
Now that Pat is leaving the building so to speak, how much are Clyde stumping up? Buchs was is the region of £20K to £30K depending on who you believe! Clarke should be in that range as well I would think.
Cliche Guevara
Do you know what insolvent means Ron?
Mushroom
QUOTE (Blueminer @ Jan 15 2008, 17:23) *
Now that Pat is leaving the building so to speak, how much are Clyde stumping up? Buchs was is the region of £20K to £30K depending on who you believe! Clarke should be in that range as well I would think.


No chance, we got 5k for our captain to Dundee, and 30k for two players to an SPL club.

I would say at the most 10k.

Besides we're not getting him until the summer.

Shame we could really do with him now sad.gif

Ron, if you're going to have a 1 man campaign against Clyde, could you at least be slightly humourous about it, thats why the Mr Roberts/Brooks/BLESSED/McVeigh dynasty is still ongoing, although its gone downhill.
Robbo
QUOTE (Alun @ Jan 15 2008, 19:28) *
Do you know what insolvent means Ron?


Probably sniffs it every weekend wink.gif
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