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RayBees
I'm particularly not impressed with Joe Jordan whose name seems to be creeping around. I don't want Tommy Burns or Roy Aitken either.

Of course we all know i could do the job better but what are other's opinions?
MC Pee Pants
tommy burns, billy davies and jim jeffries.
the jambo-rocker
i dont want any of these favourites to get the job , tommy burns, john collins, jim jefferies, graham souness and billy davies.
munro7
Tommy Burns, Tommy Burns, Tommy Burns.
RayBees
QUOTE (munro7 @ Jan 8 2008, 11:18) *
Tommy Burns, Tommy Burns, Tommy Burns.



As it appears increasingly likely he is going to get the job, according to the bbc, i don't think this can be emphasised enough.
MC Pee Pants
i would just like to stress that TOMMY BURNS should not get the job.

dear god SFA, heed our warning.
H_B
Burns, Bryan Robson, Owen Coyle and Sammy Lee.
Xbass Threepwood
Souness. Keep him away. I would quite honestly rather have Berti back. sad.gif
The Arch
Maurice Malpas, Gordon Chisholm, Glenn Roeder, Gordon Dalziel and Dick Campbell
AldoLeon
Just Souness really or Jimmy Calderwood
Jim Pansy
Anyone mentioned so far. I really hope it's going to be a left-field appointment.
Thundermonkey
Burns would be a horrible appointment. He who bleats loudest and all that though dry.gif
dave258
QUOTE (munro7 @ Jan 8 2008, 11:18) *
Tommy Burns, Tommy Burns, Tommy Burns.



God no. Just the very thought chills me to the core.

It would suck all the fun out of watching Scotland, and for me it would become one of those chores that you just have to get on with.

KEEP HIM AWAY!!!!
Lordofthewing
QUOTE (dave258 @ Jan 8 2008, 14:45) *
God no. Just the very thought chills me to the core.

It would suck all the fun out of watching Scotland, and for me it would become one of those chores that you just have to get on with.

KEEP HIM AWAY!!!!

I would say the exact same thing about Souness and Davies, tbh.
Ron Burgundy
Pness offers nouse, personality and controversy....a winner on all fronts.
JohnMac
Graeme Souness
glasnost
I hope not Tommy Burns either. I’d much rather he remain at Celtic and continue with his job as Head of Youth Development and helping out Strachan.

In a way though it would be good if he is offered the job and given the way the SFA treated him a few years ago, I hope he would tell them to shove it.
MC Pee Pants
i really hate souness, i really hope he gets the job.
H_B
QUOTE (glasnost @ Jan 8 2008, 14:54) *
In a way though it would be good if he is offered the job and given the way the SFA treated him a few years ago, I hope he would tell them to shove it.


What did they do to him a few years ago? huh.gif
Vintex
Joe Savage! laugh.gif
MC Pee Pants
QUOTE (Hieronymous_Bosch @ Jan 8 2008, 14:57) *
What did they do to him a few years ago? huh.gif


not give him the scotland job laugh.gif

and thank f**k too, he's shite.
glasnost
He had given five years of his time to help Scotland, took all the flak that came his way yet when Smith quit the SFA never had the deceny to contact him over what the future held. From memory it was through the media that he learned that he was not going to be considered or given an interview for the job.

Now, I would have thought it would have been common courtesy to contact him as No.2 and tell him what the situation was.
H_B
QUOTE (kpj @ Jan 8 2008, 15:04) *
not give him the scotland job laugh.gif

and thank f**k too, he's shite.


Exactly laugh.gif

He is a total failure of a manager! I am proud Falkirk officially sacked him biggrin.gif Celtic fans should be thanking us.
H_B
QUOTE (glasnost @ Jan 8 2008, 15:09) *
From memory it was through the media that he learned that he was not going to be considered or given an interview for the job.


Did he apply for the job?
utdtillidie
Mark mcghee, billy davies and jim jeffries.

All too young and inexperienced, and Jeffries is useless!

Where was McGhee this time last year? He's had 6 great months with Well, thats it.
glasnost
QUOTE (Hieronymous_Bosch @ Jan 8 2008, 15:11) *
Did he apply for the job?

Whether he submitted an application I don’t know but I don’t think that’s relevant, not getting the job is not really the issue. What is, is someone who had served as No.2 for five years deserved to be given at least one call to explain the SFAs future plans, as I say common courtesy. When the search for a replacement for Vogts went on, Burns remained in the set-up to aid the SFA despite being at the centre of plenty of flak. He was clearly prepared to do the same again yet wasn’t even contacted by the SFA. I am not surprised he felt some hurt after that.

Supras
Billy davies or if possible Lippi
Mr. Brightside
Mark McGhee
He is a truly shite manager
Michael W
I'm not really inspired by any of the candidates on the short-list. However, going by the list, then please not Tommy Burns.
MacGafraidh
you can have anyone apart from Craig Levein, He is staying at Tannadice!
glasnost
QUOTE (MW RRFC @ Jan 8 2008, 19:21) *
I'm not really inspired by any of the candidates on the short-list.


No short-list has been announced as far as I am aware.
Michael W
QUOTE (glasnost @ Jan 8 2008, 20:24) *
No short-list has been announced as far as I am aware.


According to Scotland Today, the short-list is made up of: Burns, Souness, McGhee and Burley. I was having my tea at the time so I may have misheard.
Dunning1874
QUOTE (MW RRFC @ Jan 8 2008, 20:39) *
According to Scotland Today, the short-list is made up of: Burns, Souness, McGhee and Burley. I was having my tea at the time so I may have misheard.


If that's the shortlist, then it just has to be McGhee.
glasnost
QUOTE (MW RRFC @ Jan 8 2008, 20:39) *
According to Scotland Today, the short-list is made up of: Burns, Souness, McGhee and Burley. I was having my tea at the time so I may have misheard.



So no shortlist has been announced then.
sonofjenova
Graeme Souness.
RosscoTon
It's Tommy Burms !!!
MC Pee Pants
QUOTE (RosscoTon @ Jan 8 2008, 21:12) *
It's Tommy Burms !!!


f**k tommy burns
BluebirdTon
Tommy Burns would be a good appointment.He's worked with both previous managers and its really a case of him just following up McLeish's work which he has already been a part of.
Dunning1874
QUOTE (BluebirdTon @ Jan 8 2008, 21:17) *
Tommy Burns would be a good appointment.He's worked with both previous managers and its really a case of him just following up McLeish's work which he has already been a part of.


I thought he didn't work with McLeish? Did he not leave just after Smith and McCoist as he was upset that the SFA never approached him about the job then?
Rinky Sidebottom
1. Tommy Burns (Never convinced me he is anything more than an average manager)
2. Graeme Souness (Not the right man)
3. John Collins (Poser and would only do it to get a bigger job in the Premiership)
4. Jim Jeffries (Not the right man)
5. George Burley (Not the right man)
6. Walter Smith (Never again, the Rangers job will be his last as nobody would trust him)
7. Kenny Dalglish (Not the right man)
8. George Graham (Fecking awful bloke and manager, most boring Leeds team ever under him)
9. Sir Allshit Ferguscum (Arsehole) death.gif
10. Any foreign manager (Not again, not right for Scotland)

This leaves only McGhee or Levein for the job.
glasnost
Let's face it, none of the names being bandied about enspire you with confidence - most ar average managers who have little experience of games outside England and Scotland.

For the record, I would go with Souness.
RosscoTon
QUOTE (glasnost @ Jan 8 2008, 21:44) *
Let's face it, none of the names being bandied about enspire you with confidence - most ar average managers who have little experience of games outside England and Scotland.

For the record, I would go with Souness.


Well you'll need to find some confidence from somewhere because Tommy Burns will be appointed. laugh.gif
Grievzie
QUOTE (RosscoTon @ Jan 8 2008, 22:03) *
Well you'll need to find some confidence from somewhere because Tommy Burns will be appointed. laugh.gif


As much as Souness was useless at Most teams, he wouldnt use the job as a shop window, he'd take no shit and best of all, he'd have no money to waste on shite players.
Surely any idiot can pick a Scotland team; we dont have that large a pool to pick from who are geniune international players - get the good coaches in to prepare them properly and let Souness be the big scary b*****d that motivates them before games and at Half Time.

Or Levein.
qos_75
I am not impressed with any of the candidates. Burley has made a pigs ear of most things, except Hearts for his 12 games in charge. He a decent couple of years at Ipswich, before they turned to shit and Southampton, well that speaks for itself. Burns should not be encouraged either it has been over 10 years since he managed in his own right. For McGhee see Burley and change Hearts for Motherwell. Souness, well he is a ranter and raver and has won nothing for years either. We are fucked. sad.gif
H_B
QUOTE (qos_75 @ Jan 9 2008, 09:17) *
He a decent couple of years at Ipswich, before they turned to shit and Southampton, well that speaks for itself.


He took Ipswich (a mid level Championship team) to ridiculous heights (very similar to O'Neill at Leicester to be honest) and did well at Hearts also.

He has had to work under extreme financial pressures at Southamption (selling anyone half decent and getting no maoney back).

I think he is the best choice out of that lot. He is Jose Mourinho compared to Tommy Burns.
Skyline Drifter
QUOTE (munro7 @ Jan 8 2008, 11:18) *
Tommy Burns, Tommy Burns, Tommy Burns.

I would be really really disappointed if we end up appointing Tommy Burns.
qos_75
QUOTE (Hieronymous_Bosch @ Jan 9 2008, 10:08) *
He took Ipswich (a mid level Championship team) to ridiculous heights (very similar to O'Neill at Leicester to be honest) and did well at Hearts also.


Yes but he also led Ipswich back to the 1st division in just as quick a time, thus getting the sack.
H_B
QUOTE (qos_75 @ Jan 9 2008, 10:25) *
Yes but he also led Ipswich back to the 1st division in just as quick a time, thus getting the sack.


His only failure in his managerial career. Even that though was amplified by Ipswich's massive overachievement the season before.

In reality they were always a club for whom one place above the relegation zone was success.

I actually think their performances the season after that in Div One were a poorer effort than the relegation.

Just to make it clear - I'm not suggesting Burley is a terrific manager. Just that he is the best of a bad lot.
glasnost
He got Ipswich relegated, hovered around the top of the Championship for years without any success, finally got them promoted, had an exceptional season leading them to a top 5 finish then led them to relegation the following season.

How did he get on at Ayr?
The Arch
George Burley seems to start really well at every club he goes to then slowly his side's slip into mediocrity

I'd rather not have him, but I'd rather not have anyone on this list to be honest
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