Indeed we got three points but we were absolute kak today. Why the hell did KB substitute Noble today he was probably our best player. Looked like the players were told to sit deep in the second half and keep possession trouble was we couldn't keep possession We looked reluctant to move forward. There was quite a few boos at the end from the Airdrie support.

Airdrie in go 1 up and sit in shocker!

booing fans,you're not allowed to be disrespectful to the manager, he'll go in another cream puff

At the risk of sounding like a sore loser........I thought Airdrie were kak today as well. I think you did sit deep when you went ahead, but it worked. I cant remember us having that many chances. Thought you also tried to waste time alot.

I think we played the better football but it all counts for f**k all if you don't score. We really need a striker.

Who is your big number 6? He looked like a big physical centre half but his touch and distribution is about the worst I've seen this season. Did he just have a bad day or is he always like that?

Ps. how many times did your striker skin the defender just before squaring the ball for the goal?

Looked like a big away support today. Its a shame that they put you at the other end of the stand. Better atmosphere when opposing fans are closer together.

Thats the first time i've seen airdrie in a while. Not amused, don't know how long it will be before i will see them again. Not entertaining at all

Cant say I agree with Ziggy, I thought we were utterly dreadful today- the worst we've been at home all season including Raith putting 5 past us. We lacked imagination and looked totally lethergic at times. No-one seems able to unlock defences at the moment. I think Canning and Dunn will form a good partnership when Dunn returns so hopefully that will sort things out- I haven't been impressed at all with McGrady, any time I have seen him he looks somewhat off the pace at this level. Airdrie were only marginally less dreadful, I expected a bigger support through from them and they made no noise whatsoever, at least they were consistent when they scored- they didn't sing then either. In short- a total baws afternoon.

PS- Hi Watty

That was easily one of the worst first halves I've ever witnessed in my 13 or so years watching Airdrie, we were poor so were Queens Park and it just looked as though it was going to be one of those days.

The tactics at the start seemed simple, get the ball to Noble and Russell and pray they did something between them. We played nice passing football at time but again we had no bite where it really counted. First half saw McDonald go close with a decent drive from outside the box but that was our only real chance of note other than the goal. Good ball through from Waddell (only thing he did all day) and Stuart Noble skinned the defender inside out before putting a good ball across for Russell to tap in.

I actually thought getting that goal would spur us on to kill the game off in the 2nd half, especially after all Kenny's comments about how we can't keep sitting in and defending 1 goal leads. Boy was I wrong.

Second half we were dreadful, we looked fresh out of ideas for most of the half. Had a couple of decent chances with Noble firing wide and K-Mac having another decent effort just go wide but we were in large, utterly gash.

Queens Park had a lot of possession but apart from a good shot that Robbo tipped round the post and a couple of tame efforts straight at him I didn't think they were a big goal threat.

What winds me up is the tactics, don't get me wrong, I'm delighted with the 3 points but any other side who had a prolific striker or goalscorer would have buried us in that second half today. KB takes off our best player, brings on Bryan Prunty and leave him up front himself? We should have still been attacking with 20 mins to go but we just shut up shop.

As for some of the individual performances, only 2 were out and out crap for me and that was Paul Lovering and Ricky Waddell, we were completely innefectual down the left hand side today and it was their fault. But does Kenny take them off? No he leaves them on for the full 90 mins.

Anyway, I dunno what to think tonight, we won ugly and I know you have to do that sometimes but we could have made it so much easier on ourselves which is what I don't understand. Considering how we played its 3 points stolen for me but I'll take it as we really need to get out of this league.

On a bright note I thought that Noble, Russell, McDonald and Smyth all had excellent games today. We really have the players but if they ain't given the right tactics then we are gonna suffer this season. Lets be a bit more positive next week against County eh?

Hi pumpkin

One winfrom 10 games. Shocker. And feck all against the mighty diamonds.

what a pishy wee team of squatters QP are!

Meh, our passing was good but yet again, we cant finish a thing. McGrady obviously can't cut it and why Stark keeps playing him I have no idea, short of players yes but surely we have something better...Colquhoun? (Sp..)
Airdrie were poor to be honest but all credit to them as they had a chance and they took it.
Stark really has to get someone on loan or something, what we have upfront right now is no where near what we need. Even when Dunn returns I seriously doubt that it will have a massive impact...
I don't really have any criticisms for the defence or midfield, Paton was good as usual and trouten was causing all sorts of problems...yet, as said above, build up play means nothing if you canne finish a thing

Lets all laugh at the parasites

i thought it was a poor game, and probably queens deserved at least a point. who cares, we won ugly, as they say, and having seen all the 2nd division teams play us so far, queens are no where near the worst...i felt that we were a wee bit in awe of playing at the national stadium..but having never seen airdrie play QP there, (i did see us play at lesser hampden) it's surreal watching a game at hampden wanting the away team to win!! not having a ticket for the italy game, i am now hiding away in a secure location within the bowels of hampden, with only left over pies and cold bovril for nourishment until a week on saturday. STOWAWAY...

abysmal showing ........ mr black is working on the sniper principle... one shot one goal and then try to hide.

The full time team were given an absolute lesson in movement and quick passing...all queens were lacking is a decent strikeforce........we were so cumbersome when we had the ball it was dire.

I still have no idea why mcdougal is not getting a game...we have two guys fairly decent in the air and managed about two crosses from the by line all game...one of which was the goal.

There is no balance in the team at all and queens probably deserved something from the game.

Who knows what next time will bring.....???????????

i wasnt confident going into next saturdays game at airdrie but reading some of the match reports on your game makes me abit more optimistic.

good it will make it all the sweeter to send you five hours north in the cold and dark after getting your arses spanked.

see you next week

Don't get me wrong I believe we are more than capable of beating you lot next week, especially since we are at home and haven't lost there since the opening day. However, if we play like we did on Saturday we could be on the recieving end of a right pumping next week. I think we'll be seeing a very different Airdrie side though as KB will be desperate to prove a lot of people wrong next week.

As for McDougall Ron, he was still injured yesterday. They gave him a late fitness test but he just wasn't ready to come back. I agree though, when he's fit the guy really needs a start. Waddell shouldn't have stayed on the park for so long yesterday, it really should have been Homer on the left.

Next week, assuming everyone's fit, my midfield would be Holmes on the left, McDougall on the right with McKeown and McDonald in the middle.

it is bemusing when black continually playes folk out of position ... especially when the guy filling the berth is gash.....I thought macdonald was far better sitting in front of the back 4...and on a number of occasions he was the only midfielder getting beyong the strikers...he was not anywhere near as bad as the majority of the support maqde out...he's getting the blame for the team playing poorly.

Being injured a pretty good reason for not playing him ... did you see how raging russell was when he got pulled back!

That was fucking crud. Excuse the language.

A win's a win, but the abuse levelled at Black after the final whist'e tells it's own story.

In the first half, I thought we were the better team, however in keeping with the last couple of seasons' play, we seemed to want to walk the ball into the net. The second half was an utter scandal though.

It appeared to me that we were instructed to sit deep and close the game out, but all that resulted from this was nearly constant Queen's pressure. For all that, Queen's pre-occupation with playing pretty patterns in a similar manner to Airdrie limited them to a couple of clear cut chances. Fortunately, Robertson was up to the job.

The most worrying aspect of that pish for me was the lack of dig. Many times, we hat decent opportunities to break yet slowed the game down to snail's pace with square passes, allowing Queen's to gat players behind the ball. If there was a bit more agression and directness about our play, our strikers could tear most defences in ths league to pieces.

Get Black to feck now, and send Lovering and MacDonald with him.

Despite Airdrie being pretty poor, we were awful as well. Lots of pretty tippy-tappy stuff in the middle of the park and no bite whatsoever. McGrady didn't really get involved in the game and while Stephen Canning will try his heart out, without someone up alongside him who is going to create things, he won't have too many chances at building on his impressive early season goal scoring record.

The goal we lost was shambolic as well, the Airdrie winger skinned Agostini inside and out and the guy in the middle had all the space in the world to hammer the ball past Cairnsy. Stark brought on Big Paul Ronald at half time and instead of sticking him up front to partner Stevie, he puts him in defensive midfield, a bizzare decision in my book. I can only remember one real chance for us, and it was a great save from the keeper to stop Canning from netting near the end.

We desperately need a proper striker. We don't have a real goalscorer in the team.

cannot agree more mate, that was honestly the worst 45 minutes of footbll I have ever seen in my Life, i would really like to know how many shots on goal airdrie had I think it was 4, McDonald had 2 and noble and russell 1 each......1 was on target and it was the goal......from 10 mins into it Lovering looked injured and played like he had 1 leg that was the single worst performance from a player I have seen all season. McDonald wasn't AS bad yesterday as he has been for the past 9 games (not counting or anything) and he just isn't up to the job. The manager is saying in the sunday papers that he DID NOT instruct the team to defend.......so did Allan Russell come back to midfield of his own free will???? Don't think so, Black deserved the abuse as he is tactically inept and basically hasn't got a clue. I can't believe im writing this but if its gonna take a humping off someone to get him to go then lets get it over with!!

Think Clydebank have delusions of grandure. You wont escape this league this year and willl be a consistent part-time middle of the road 2nd division team for the forseeable. That isn't bitterness at getting beat. To come to a team who have had reasonable results this season, win and boo your team off the park is a disgrace. This isn't the late 90's when Clydebank were winning Division 2- you are nowhere near that standard. The only hope you have is the playoffs.

Do you not think by reading every post by the Airdrie fans on here that they agree ?? That is why we are angry. We have the best squad of players in this league IMO. No better shot stopper than Robbo (he's crap at crosses though I'll give you that). No better defense, as the goals against record says and certainly no better strikers than Noble and Russell, with Prunty as back up. Our midfield is the only real area for concern. Although that's more down to Kenny Black's tactics IMO. If we had a decent manager we would win this league, and that's why we are annoyed, because we know we should be doing better.

My point is that nearly every other team in the league would be more than happy with an away win no matter what the performance. However fans of your team seem to think it is your devine right to turn up and turn over part time teams comfartably. Booing your team off after a victory is a joke. Black will go eventually this season but when Dick Campbell or whoever else is installed it will be no different, Airdrie simply aren't good enough to go up and the fans should take a reality check.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in being ambitious from a supporters point of view . Whats the point of supporting your club if you don't believe you can always aim higher . Surely thats what being a football supporter is all about. I as an Airdrie supporter will never settle for mediocrity. Maybe the supporters of Queens Park, Albion Rovers and Stenny etc are happy for their club to plod along at the fag end of Scottish Football but that is not for me.

Airdrie United have much less pedigree than Queen's Park, who (apart from their early history) have also played in the 1st division not so long ago. You seem to be identifying your team with Airdrieonians. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but technically they arent and therefore until they actually achieve something in their own name you've no right to be claiming you should be this or that.

Edit - I accept taht being a full-time club expects to be above the second division, but that is something different.

Airdrie United have found there level. A team with a core support of 850 fans doesn't deserve to be in a higher division. The difference is that Queens, Stenny and Albion Rovers fans know that there team has a certain level. Being such a young club the fans shouldn't expect the team to walk before they can run.

Are you saying that we haven't achieved anything? Well actually, we won the second division in season 2003-2004.
Not quite the same as winning the Scottish Cup in 1924 I grant you but better than reaching the Scottish Cup final in 1975 1992 and 1995 but hey it was still an achievement.

Yes its an achievement but what we're saying is that you havent achieved anything which entitles you to suppose that you belong in the higher eschelons of scottish football. Three seasons in the first division isnt sufficient. Do you think you're entitled to be considered in the same bracket as Livie and Caley Thistle, another two new clubs?
I suppose Airdrie United aspire to get into the SPL too, but havent done it yet and until you do you cant claim any pedigree.

There is being ambitous in support of your club, and there's booing you're team off despite winning away from home.

I don't think any of the fans who did boo were booing the players - they were just really pissed off at Kenny Black's apparent lack of ambition.

IMHO Airdrie virtually controlled the first half and looked quite comfortable. However instead of taking a positive attitude and going out to kill the game off by scoring quickly in the 2nd half we seemed to sit deep from the word go. This allowed Queens into the game and come at us for virtually the whole of the 2nd half. At the end we were lucky to survive but that was more down to our managers tactics rather than anything else.

We have seen our team play some really good football and know what they are capable of that's why we find it so frustrating watching that load sh*t in the 2nd half yesterday

I admit there was some booing all be it from a very small minority of our 500 or so support. The vast majority applauded the team off the park. It would appear that some folk failed to recognise that.

How many do you think we had then out of a crowd of 1, 200 odd

We had quite a fair support there yesterday. It's difficult to tell but we probably did have around what Gartleahlil said.

Why the are your the official QP crowd statistician or something equally insignificant.

I don't like the booing at the end of games, even when we lose. People should just vote with their feet as hundreds are doing at Airdrie just now.

I wouldn't say any Airdrie fan who thinks we should be in the first division is over-ambitious as we were quite clearly capable of it 2 years ago. Over-ambitious would be promotion to Spl.

Quite correct

The fact that youre full time demonstrates the club's ambitions. I think the limitation is the size of home gates, which for a club in your town is pretty low. IMO as an outsider if the name 'Airdrieonians' (or even 'Airdrie FC') hadnt been denied you there would have been more continuity with the old club and its traditions, and therefore fan loyalty.

I don't think any of us are claiming that we have achieved anything that suggests we deserve to be higher and I sure as hell don't think we have a divine right to win this league.

What we are arguing for in my opinion is that with the squad of players we have we should be in a much better position than we are in the league. Every single week our manager comes out in the press and says that we haven't seen the best from our squad yet, so why is that? We know what they are capable of as they have produced it in spells but that performance on Saturday was not good enough by the standards of what that squad of players can do.

I for one did clap the players off of the park on Saturday and always back my side, win, lose or draw. However, I most definetly wasn't happy with what I saw.

It has nothing to do with what we have done in our 5 years as a senior club and it has nothing to do with the fantastic and memorable history of our old club that we all still see Airdrie United as being connected to. We simply feel we have a very good squad of players that our manager isn't getting the best from which I feel is a very valid opinion to hold.

The intial response was to what Gartleahill was saying. We arent saying you shouldnt have ambitions and expectations - I'm certain you do. Just making the point that having aspirations doesnt entitle some fans to look down on the more limited potential of smaller clubs when you havent yet achieved more than them.

As I said, I'm not sure whether Airdrie United are Airdrieonians resurrected, and judging by the gates not all the ex Airdrieonians fans are sure either. Personally, for what its worth, its a pity taht the name Airdrieonians was bought out to prevent the new club from using it, even in the form of Airdrieonians 2002 or whatever year it was (as some english clubs have done).

350 tops. I reckon Thistle had more pre-season and Raith brought more as well.

We are happy with the win, that is all though. Who says we have a divine right to win ?? We have far better players than Queens Park, we should not be going a goal up and then f**king defending for the rest of the game !! What fans of other clubs won't understand as that this negative play has only become apparent since Kenny Black came in. He got us relegated with it, mainly in the play-off final against Stirling when we were 2-0 up at half-time in the first leg. We still had one and a half games to hold out for, but he still tries to defend for the rest of the game. We lost two late goals, on the face of it it may seem unlucky, but we got what we deserved, you play that kind of football these things are liable to happen. Same as against Raith the other week. We are looking pretty strong at the back, Raith get a dodgy penalty and score a wonder goal. Again, may seem like we were hard done to, but if you defend for ages these things will eventually happen, we were just lucky to get away with it yesterday.




What has that got to do with anything ? Who has been claiming we have the right to be anywhere ? "Pedigree" ?? We are talking about one game here where we have better players than Queens Park, yet we play really negatively against them, almost as if we are scared, thats unacceptable IMO.






Again, what relevance has this to anything ?




Very few people booed the players off. There was booing after the full-time whistle aimed towards Kenny Black to let him know that style of football is not on. The players were clapped off. After all, they carried out his instrcutions to perfection. Also, I think the booing was really just a culmination of weeks and weeks of this negative crap, and Black needed told it's not on. To be honest the result wouldn't have made a difference as to whether there was booing or not, only the style of play would have made a difference. The booing was certainly not because "we only beat Queens Park 1-0, that's s**t", which I think some people seem to think it was.




So where did the extra 400 or so Queens Park fans come from then ?

I was replying to this post, about Airdrie in general, not to yours about one game -

Airdrie looked to me to have at least half the crowd.

an86 - you have taken on the mantle of the wording in your signature

What a 'Fup'. You just hate the diamonds so much dont you.

Bitter Bitter bitter. Just 'cos of your friend Mr Traynor

I don't think your guess would be too far out.

More ill informed p1sh, tell me who bought the name then ???

Ive no idea who bought the name, but I clearly remember it. You should know, and if you dont its nevertheless a fact that the names Airdrieonians and Airdrie FC were owned.

Edit - you might find the ill informed p1sh here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/low/football/...ans/2000634.stm

THis may have been covered elsewhere, but what has the amount of fans you have got to do with whether or not you deserve to be in a higher division? It has got f**k all to do with it, as does having 20,000 fans doesn't mean you deserve to be in the highest division.

wrong again. Nobody has bought the rights to the name Airdrieonians football and Athletic club

really I dont understand folk who make statements with ZERO information

ah the bbc the last bastion of truth

read it again KPMG no longer seeking offers, that was because they wanted a cash amount to use the name, nobody came forward to buy it as you could easily have registered a few different variations which Jim Ballentyne did, including the new stadium company which is called Airdrieonians football club