Posted this on Morton messageboard and interested in the thoughts of the rest of you on here.


Should Morton be trailing Raith Rovers 1-0 (through a Marvin Andrews goal??) next week, and get a corner in the last minute, would you expect Gonet/McGurn to coast into the opponent's box to help aid the attack? I've just seen a clip of ex-St.Johnstone keeper Matt Glennon scoring an equaliser in a league game last season and it got me wondering about why we rarely see goalkeepers go up for corners in league games? I mean, of course there's a possibility of the other team breaking away and scoring another goal but surely the possibility of gaining an equaliser is more important than another goal off the goal difference.

Just a thought..

You must have dreamt that mate.

St. Johnstone, not Falkirk.

i couldnt care as long as it was 1-0 to raith ill be happy

It didn't happen.

Yes it did.

Yes, it happened at Victoria Park in a 2-2 draw.

Aye it did

If goal difference wasn't a huge factor then I'd expect to see all 11 in the box for a last minute corner, aye.

Who's going to take the corner then?

It does make sense though doesn't it? I mean, I've never really understood why - when trailing by a goal - teams leave guys back at the half way line when they have a corner. Considering the fact that goalkeepers are generally bigger than most of the other players, there can be no excuse.

I'm sure there was an incident a few years ago, where a keeper (Carlisle, or Chesterfield, or someobody) went up for a corner in the last game of the season, and scored, to get his team promoted. Pitch invasions ensued!

I've been trying to find the video, but i can't seem to get it anywhere!

this any help dunc? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHjwtVtHMmI

Matt Glennon only went up because we are still, in our minds at least, going for the title and couldn't afford to lose (or really draw in truth).

It was some goal though! Shit celebration but!

Jimmy Glass, who was only signed on loan as an emergency signing after the transfer deadline, netted for Carlisle against Plymouth and the goal, in the last minute of the season, kept Carlisle in the division at the expense of Scarborough. Unbelievable drama but I'm not sure he got another club after that

I wouldn't send the 'keeper up to be honest unless the opposition pull everyone back, it just means there's less space and less chance of scoring.

He got manya club after that. I had the pleasure of being at the Brentford vs. Millwall game where he was on the bench for Brentford. He's also played for Cambridge, oxford and is currently at Kingstonian.

Legend.

Ah, thats the one. Thanks lads.

I take it none of you know when someone is taking a lend of you then?




A wonderful finish. It didn't really help when both keepers were wearing the exact same goalie top though!

Can't imagine there'd be much advantage in sending Mark McGeown up for a corner...

We were losing 1-0 at New Bayview a few years ago so Stuart Garden came up, East Fife promptly broke away from the corner and scored!

It can happen, but still worth the risk

Agreed, a big fan of seeing keepers coming up.

Anyone remember Mart Pooms header (For Derby I think) a few years ago. One of the best headers ever!

That Jimmy Glass one is special, can't help but smile when you see it

The Hibs keeper went up last week. Thankfully he was equally inept in our box as he had been in his own! We also had the chance to score on the breakaway but Andy Millen opted to run it into a corner to keep the clock ticking down for the last 30 seconds.

After posting this thread I (being a goalkeeper in the local Sunday league) was so tempted to go up for a last minute corner today. Unfortunately(?) we were more than a few goals infront and didn't want to seem disrespectful to our opponents. Hopefully next week we are trailing by a goal and I can get my chance to score.

I've now got a 6 pint bet with our right back that I'll score more goals than him this year

Good luck!

I presume the current tally is 0 goals each!

That's awesome. You can't see it on that video but one of the fans that ran onto the pitch actually jumped on the referee's back.

Thanks. Yeah, the tally is 0-0 (for the season, he trails by 2 goals career-wise lol) just now although I was a little unlucky as former Morton striker Gavin Redmond beat me to a header in the last minute of our quarter-final tie last week.

I'm quietly confident.

Our current goalkeeper seems to be a bit of a frustrated centre forward - so I think it would be pretty cool to see him going up for a Robin Van Persie style screaming volley

As a general rule though its tricky, for every Jimmy Glass there must me a few f**k ups that everyone casts to the mists of memory!!

Has a goalkeeper ever scored for Scotland?

Even better in ice hockey. They sometimes take the goalie off and bring on a forward for the closing stages!

Rather than put the keeper in the box for a corner, depending on how many of the defending team are pulled back, why not put all the outfield players up and have the keeper at the halfway line?

Surely theres more chance of an outfield player scoring and it allows the keeper to act as the last man to launch it back into the box if the balls cleared. Just a thought.

I think they shouldn't! Because most of the time it doesn't work and when there's no1 to defend all it needs is a pacey player to sprint with the ball and score (unless it means if you loose the game and your relegated, its okay to do it then!)

Rarely happens though, unless you're playing against Liverpool.

Yes but Goalies are generally tall so will cause problems, also defenders not sure who should pick him up

Scotty Thompson was legendary for his late box dashes....

What's that pruple streak in the box?
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Super Phantom!

Jimmy Glass

Mark Crossley, at the age of 93, has become a member of the 'goalscoring goalkeeper club'.

Shame it had to come against Southampton, but hey - congrats.

Edit: this thread probably doesnt deserve to be here anymore, but the achievement deserved mention

Scotty 'Phantom' Thompson used to enjoy a streak into the enemy box.

[quote name='David W' date='Oct 8 2006, 11:40' post='1220709']
Jimmy Glass, who was only signed on loan as an emergency signing after the transfer deadline, netted for Carlisle against Plymouth and the goal, in the last minute of the season, kept Carlisle in the division at the expense of Scarborough. Unbelievable drama but I'm not sure he got another club after that :blink

The most amazing end to a game I've ever witnessed. Carlisle needed a win and they got a last minute corner and Glass shouted over to the Carlisle manager Nigel Pearson if he should go up for it but Pearson refused and every Carlisle fan in the main stand were giving Pearson pelters telling him we may as well lose as draw get him up and the rest is history.

Jimmy Glass recently brought out a book not too long ago. A cracking read, he was shit on by Michael Knighton after that and not long after he drifted out of the game. He had a number of wrist injuries when he was at Crystal Palace so when he couldn't play in goal apparently he played up front for the reserves.

His career appears to be a catalogue of hard luck stories well worth a read if you can get your hands on it.

Myles Hogarth came up for a corner and hit the crossbar down at Gretna in the last minute when we were 1-0 down in the third division.

I mind that, the strange thing about it though was that it was only about the 85th minute

Willie Herd collected the ball at his feet, ran to about the half way line and was fecked so just passed it in to the net, I think we were on our feet about 5mins before the ball rolled into the net. The headline obesessed Supergoals had a report on Monday titled "Herd about my goal lads"...

Often keepers are alot taller then the likes of full back though, I'd imagine thats why.

In a league game a new years ago down at Gretna, big Myles came up, won a header, and Mathieison?? produced a brilliant save. It was a big game too.

any idea why he was sent off?

Haven't heard anything yet, I'm guessing he pulled someone down outside the box or something.

We'll miss him for the game(s) he's suspended for though.