HibeeJibee Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 RLWC today:Group A England 36-6 FranceGroup C Wales 6-34 IrelandInter-Group PNG 64-0 USA QFs:Australia v Samoa NZ v Fiji Tonga v Lebanon England v PNG NZ's defeat v Tonga yesterday was only 11th occasion any of "Big 3" has lost v someone else in RLWC history. PNG beat NZ in 1986. Wales beat England + NZ in 1975. France beat NZ in 1972, Australia in 1970, NZ + GB in 1968, NZ in 1957, and Australia + NZ in 1954. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 What's the point in referees going to the TMO if they're still going to get decisions obviously wrong after watching it seven or eight times? Yesterday saw Samoa awarded a try when it clearly wasn't grounded and England awarded a try when the pass was blatantly forward by a matter of yards. Terrible refereeing all round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 What's the point in referees going to the TMO if they're still going to get decisions obviously wrong after watching it seven or eight times? Yesterday saw Samoa awarded a try when it clearly wasn't grounded and England awarded a try when the pass was blatantly forward by a matter of yards. Terrible refereeing all round. And beales try was a knock on... but it's causing great seethe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on shire Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I was at the game on Saturday and I thought the 1st half was the best for us. Great start to the game which was made in Glasgow. A Finn Russell grubber kick followed by a Tommy Seymour chip straight into the hands of try scorer Stuart Hogg. Overall though, I thought that our set piece was generally fairly sound especially since we have a front row decimated by injury. Our attack was absolutely lethal. Pick of the bunch imo goes to Alex Dunbar for his well taken try. His Selkirk townspeople will be proud. If we are to beat NZ and/or Oz then it's keeping the attack razor sharp that will do this. This brings me to the big negative. The defence. Samoa's issues clearly galvanised them on the pitch and they played for each other looking to win. Wales were humbled in Cardiff in 2012 mind. Samoa are well known as the most physical team in the world and we struggled with this aspect. Our defence was also very dozy. If you score 6 tries then you should be out of sight, not needing to see the game out. If the defence is like this over the next fortnight then our attack will need to stay on the boil or else we're getting smoked. At least Toony knows what the big work on this week will have to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 WP Nel is out with a broken arm with Jon Welsh replacing him in the squad. Tim Swinson is out with a hand injury and Rob Harley is out with a knee injury with no replacements called up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Any news of the starting 15 against the all blacks? I'm attending Wales v Georgia game on Saturday so would be bloody brilliant if Wales lose to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 51 minutes ago, Doonhamer doon south said: Any news of the starting 15 against the all blacks? I'm attending Wales v Georgia game on Saturday so would be bloody brilliant if Wales lose to them. Usually announced on Thursday for a Saturday game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 10:29, Mark Connolly said: I love overreaction from rugby fans, especially in victory! We were good in attack, poor in defense, and we won in front of a sold-out MF against a team we always struggle to put away. I'd far rather we had issues in yesterday's game and had real stuff to work on before the next 2 than we had an easy run-out. Samoa, despite their ranking, are no mugs. It was closer than it should have been, but we got the job done. Taylor will get ripped into them for their defence, Toony will have a few tricks up his sleeve, and we'll have a right go against NZ and Oz. I dont think its over reaction, its just stating opinions. In the 2nd half every time we scored, Samoa replied within a couple of minutes. On pretty much every try. Basically we were scoring, getting the ball back from kick off, handing it over to Samoa then letting them score. Its not just the defence, its the inability to hold onto the ball for any length of time. As much as the all out attack is brilliant to watch, against the very best teams we need to be able to hold on to the ball for a decent length of time, as much as to give our players a bit of a breather so we are ready to launch the attacks. This is the weakest Samoa squad in memory, they have dropped from 8th in the world at the last WC seading (they were 2nd seeds in our group last world cup) down to 16th in 4 or 5 years. Yes they have just got a new coaching team in, but we had set of forwards in the 2nd half that, if it was Glasgow we would all be sitting knowing we would do well in the loose, but will get hammered in the scrum, yet didn't look under any pressure at any time in the scrum. Granted 1 try was never grounded, and Williams scored another as Harris was over eager to impress and flew out the line, but we should be putting down a marker in these games, not hanging on for victories. I dont want to come across as thinking Samoa are a walk in the park, we still need to turn up and play well, and after the Fiji game know all to well we can come unstuck against teams. However last year we ran up a good score via Georgia, who have convincingly beat Samoa home and away in the last year. I think its more an attitude thing, that we need to be at our best every game, not just doing enough to win 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I didn't know that France were playing the ABs tonight again.... strange on a Tuesday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I didn't know that France were playing the ABs tonight again.... strange on a Tuesday First ABs midweek game since 2008 according to NZ Herald http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11943674 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) It seems to be officially billed as "France XV v New Zealand XV" and is being played in Lyon, so presumably non-cap international with 'weakened' teams? EDIT: Plus on Friday the "French Barbarians" beat the "Maori All Blacks" 19-15 at Bordeaux, so they've certainly been flogging the visit for all it's worth. Edited November 14, 2017 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eednud Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 It seems to be officially billed as "France XV v New Zealand XV" and is being played in Lyon, so presumably non-cap international with 'weakened' teams? EDIT: Plus on Friday the "French Barbarians" beat the "Maori All Blacks" 19-15 at Bordeaux, so they've certainly been flogging the visit for all it's worth. Maori All Blacks have a short 2 or 3 game tour every years. This year was 2 games, they beat Canada 51-9 in Vancouver a week earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 This is also billed as French Barbarians - i think only Trinc-Duh played in the first test for France, so very much not a full strength team, more a traditional tour mid week team, not seen who is playing for NZ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 This is also billed as French Barbarians - i think only Trinc-Duh played in the first test for France, so very much not a full strength team, more a traditional tour mid week team, not seen who is playing for NZ Think it's full test status though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said: Think it's full test status though wouldn't surprise me if it was, probably to justify adding a few extra €'s to the ticket prices 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 It seems to be officially billed as "France XV v New Zealand XV" and is being played in Lyon, so presumably non-cap international with 'weakened' teams? EDIT: Plus on Friday the "French Barbarians" beat the "Maori All Blacks" 19-15 at Bordeaux, so they've certainly been flogging the visit for all it's worth. Correct it is a non-cap test for the fringe players on both sides to get some game time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Counts as a test match though. Therefore if France win and they currently are 15 14 it will go down as an all black scalp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Kiw team1. Tim Perry2. Nathan Harris (9)3. Jeffery Toomaga-Allen (1)4. Patrick Tuipulotu (15)5. Dominic Bird (2)6. Liam Squire (13)7. Ardie Savea (22)8. Luke Whitelock (1) - captain9. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (27)10. Lima Sopoaga (13)11. Seta Tamanivalu (3)12. Ngani Laumape (4)13. Jack Goodhue 14. Matt Duffie 15. David Havili (3)16. Asafo Aumua 17. Atu Moli18. Ofa Tu'ungafasi (12)19. Scott Barrett (15)20. Akira Ioane21. Dillon Hunt22. Mitch Drummond23. Richie Mo'unga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Kiw team1. Tim Perry2. Nathan Harris (9)3. Jeffery Toomaga-Allen (1)4. Patrick Tuipulotu (15)5. Dominic Bird (2)6. Liam Squire (13)7. Ardie Savea (22)8. Luke Whitelock (1) - captain9. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (27)10. Lima Sopoaga (13)11. Seta Tamanivalu (3)12. Ngani Laumape (4)13. Jack Goodhue 14. Matt Duffie 15. David Havili (3)16. Asafo Aumua 17. Atu Moli18. Ofa Tu'ungafasi (12)19. Scott Barrett (15)20. Akira Ioane21. Dillon Hunt22. Mitch Drummond23. Richie Mo'unga Cheers. Do you have the French equivalent? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 NZ pulling away now. 15 28 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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