same_ol_g35 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Zebre have pulled out of the pro 12 and are apparently going to fold and be replaced with another Italian franchise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Zebre have pulled out of the pro 12 and are apparently going to fold and be replaced with another Italian franchise. Thing is zebre aren't really the problem for me. It's Italian rugby in general. As it stands the Italians don't have the money, player depth, fan base or modern history for two franchises. They have been struggling for years both in the 6 nations and pro 12. They might be better off running one franchise for now and look at second franchise in a few years and see where they are. It's only what the SRU have done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Thing is zebre aren't really the problem for me. It's Italian rugby in general. As it stands the Italians don't have the money, player depth, fan base or modern history for two franchises. They have been struggling for years both in the 6 nations and pro 12. They might be better off running one franchise for now and look at second franchise in a few years and see where they are. It's only what the SRU have done. Yeah sounds right....was there not some chat a while back that they were looking at binning both treviso n zebre n replace them with a Rome based franchise?? Sounds like the Italian authorities are all over the shop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Sounds like the league are all over the shop. At a time when Scotland are on the rise this chaos does nothing to improve the credibility of the sport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 The Italian federation took over the running of Zebre half way through last season as they were bust, and there has been talk ever since of a franchise in Rome. I wonder if this is just a pre-cursor of formally closing down the Zebre (and wiping out the debt) and creating a new club in Rome for a fresh start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 The Italian federation took over the running of Zebre half way through last season as they were bust, and there has been talk ever since of a franchise in Rome. I wonder if this is just a pre-cursor of formally closing down the Zebre (and wiping out the debt) and creating a new club in Rome for a fresh start. Will they get to keep the history and the titles?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 39 minutes ago, dogmc said: Will they get to keep the history and the titles?? Zevco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, dogmc said: Will they get to keep the history and the titles?? Dont think so as there's been too much walking away (and 4 years of history is not much to shout about!) Had just looked back to see when they replaced Aironi and how bad had they been. Aironi lasted 2 years, and finished bottom both years, but probably not as bad as Zebre last year, were averaging about 4000 in crowds first year although lost 21 out of 22 picked up 8 losing bonus points and beat Bairitz in Europe, who topped their group, and next season won 4 beating Munster and Edinburgh What caught my eye was that in 2010-11 Trevisio finished 10th, above Glasgow in 11th with a won 9 lost 13 record (would have been above Connaught if not for bp) and again in 2011-12 they finished 10th above Edinburgh with a won 7 lost 15 record, and Glasgow would finish 4th. Edited July 24, 2017 by honestly united 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 The Italian federation took over the running of Zebre half way through last season as they were bust, and there has been talk ever since of a franchise in Rome. I wonder if this is just a pre-cursor of formally closing down the Zebre (and wiping out the debt) and creating a new club in Rome for a fresh start. I think this would be a sensible option. However do they have a smallish stadium in Rome. Stadio Flaminio? Is probably too big and won't be filled most weeks. Be better for traveling fans and get more sponsorship deals in the capital. The Italians have to change something though because they are struggling domestically and internationally 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Zebre have pulled out of the pro 12 and are apparently going to fold and be replaced with another Italian franchise. Where have you seen or heard this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeek Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Could be a good move. Parma is a place with a bit of rugby tradition isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeek Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Is that not where aironi played? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeek Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Just checked, No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Story on the BBC website makes it sound as if it is indeed a zebco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Zebco, Sevco, it's still rock and roll to me. Time for all the rumours to get put to bed, get a fixture list published and get people talking about games and players otherwise it should be getting rebranded the unPro 14. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The new Glasgow prop surname is a mouthful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The new Glasgow prop surname is a mouthful If you stub your toe while attempting it you get pretty close 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15433488.Ulster_and_Ireland_rugby_stars_to_be_prosecuted_for_rape/Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding to be prosecuted for an alleged rape. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 First time I have heard of this http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/first-players-in-scottish-rugby-nice-exchange-revealed-1-4513746 A budget of €1.4m probably is bigger than the top Premiership clubs in Scotland, but surely they could have found a club a bit higher than the 4th tier in France? London Scottish is a much higher standard to start with 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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