Jmothecat2 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 In two innings England managed to only score 3 more runs that South Africa managed in their lowest scoring innings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 95 overs they batted in this match.One day cricketers masquerading as test players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, mjw said: 95 overs they batted in this match. One day cricketers masquerading as test players. Take out Root's 190 in the First Innings of the First Test and it is not looking very healthy at all. That was the main difference between the sides in the First Test (IMO). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 17 hours ago, Fuctifano said: I have no recollection of what happened last English summer but the 2015 Ashes was similar to this series so far , 3-2 England but all 5 matches were utter shoeings. Think the series vs India the summer before was as well. Test matches when they're close are amazing but one-sided hammerings, even if it's a different side dishing out the hammering each time, are no fun. The attitude of players these days is to attack your way out of a situation, we're gonna get more series like that with huge swings from Test to Test. In the first Test England batted first and were in trouble and it worked for Stokes/Ali that time it didn't. OK so the situations in the two Tests weren't identical there maybe some of that is down to the Lord's pitch still being in good nick or as JJJJS said maybe the more aggressive batsmen need someone like Root at the other end keeping it steady to launch their aggressive innings successfully. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 That's fewer than 250 runs in the last three innings in a row. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) I think I mentioned it during the final day of the Lords test, but batsmen don't have a clue how to deal with decent Test wickets anymore. The other forms of the game allow them to develop into flat track bullies, look brilliant, and score a pile of runs, but as soon as the pitch starts playing tricks they don't have a clue how to deal with it. I'll bet the average score at the Champions Trophy this year was about 50 or 100 better than the one in England in 2004. I very much doubt it is because batsmen have suddenly become that much better in the last 13 years, just that the conditions are set up far more in favour of the batters. ETA: May I add that Alex Hales isn't the answer. He's the ultimate example of a guy that will get caught out on a decent test pitch. Stand and deliver without much footwork doesn't work, especially in England. Edited July 17, 2017 by Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 They are only winning test matches if they bat first. You can have sympathy for teams batting last on deteriorating wickets but that was only day 4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Some excellent bowling by SA on the one hand and some abject batting by England on the other. Can only echo what other folk have said in that defensive batting now appears to be a lost art. Dreadful that England couldn't even make it through 2 sessions today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Jazz Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Trescothick had limited footwork but managed fine. I'd go back to Hales personally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 They are only winning test matches if they bat first. You can have sympathy for teams batting last on deteriorating wickets but that was only day 4. This is true. Maybe four day tests is the way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 It'd stick with Hameed, obviously not had the greatest season but has potential 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'd bring back Hameed, he looks to have the makings of a proper test match opener. Give Ben Duckett an extended run at 3, drop Dawson and go with Jos Buttler down the order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) There's a big fat c**t batting for Northampton. Out first ball. I thought the days of guys like that had gone. Rory Kleinveldt: And at the other end Richard Levi: Is it the cut of the strip? Edited July 22, 2017 by Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 And to think vertical stripes supposedly have a slimming effect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/17/2017 at 21:44, die hard doonhamer said: I'd bring back Hameed, he looks to have the makings of a proper test match opener. Give Ben Duckett an extended run at 3, drop Dawson and go with Jos Buttler down the order. Agreed, the selectors appear to be pished oot their nuts. In other news Zimbabwe shat it and Sri Lanka won the test with a sterling 391-6 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Where can I get more information on Scotlands regional Pro series? For example I know there was the joint venture with the dutch but what happened and are Scotland just doing it solo. I looked on Cricket Scotland site and Wikipedia but there doesn't seem much on there. Any help thanks in advance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, Doonhamer doon south said: Where can I get more information on Scotlands regional Pro series? For example I know there was the joint venture with the dutch but what happened and are Scotland just doing it solo. I looked on Cricket Scotland site and Wikipedia but there doesn't seem much on there. Any help thanks in advance Info seems sparse. Here is the cricket Europe site link. http://www.cricketeurope.com/CESCOTLAND/index.shtml 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, Tynieness said: Info seems sparse. Here is the cricket Europe site link. http://www.cricketeurope.com/CESCOTLAND/index.shtml Surprised there isn't a competition for the regional teams of Ireland Scotland and Dutch combined. Be a good 8 team (3 Irish, 3 Scots, 2 Dutch) league over the summer. With Ireland and Afghanistan picking up full test status the worry is Scotland being left behind and competing for "best of the rest" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Surprised there isn't a competition for the regional teams of Ireland Scotland and Dutch combined. Be a good 8 team (3 Irish, 3 Scots, 2 Dutch) league over the summer. With Ireland and Afghanistan picking up full test status the worry is Scotland being left behind and competing for "best of the rest" Something like that would be great. Obviously this is never going to happen for a quite a few reasons but it would be fantastic if Scotland could get one of the franchises for the new T20 thing the ECB are so keen on. Obviously that isn't going to happen but If this competition does increase interest and give the game some terrestrial exposure hopefully it will increase interest and participation up here which can only be a good thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just now, Jmothecat2 said: Something like that would be great. Obviously this is never going to happen for a quite a few reasons but it would be fantastic if Scotland could get one of the franchises for the new T20 thing the ECB are so keen on. Obviously that isn't going to happen but If this competition does increase interest and give the game some terrestrial exposure hopefully it will increase interest and participation up here which can only be a good thing. Many years ago Scotland got to participate in one of the 50 over comps, they did it for a few seasons I think. That was back when our overseas player was Rahul Dravid. I was always a bit of a Jonah for Dravid, saw him bat at the MCG back in 1999 and he didn't make much then saw him in England a few times and never passed 50. Great player too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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