Cptn Hooch Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just been published on the SPFL site https://spfl.co.uk/premiership/fixtures/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I'm confused by our fixtures - we go to Ibrox twice pre-split, but we did so last season as well. Isn't the case that fixtures are meant to "swap" each season, with promoted sides taking on the role of the side they just replaced? So if you're at home to someone twice pre-split one season, you're away to them twice pre-split the following season and so on. From inception, the SPL (as-was) designed the fixtures so that if you had Celtic twice, you got Rangers once and vice versa. When the new team that plays at Ibrox found its way to the top league, they happened to be "in sync" with Celtic - meaning teams got both twice at home or twice away. Partick Thistle complained quite strongly about this IIRC. Surely they haven't manipulated the fixtures to put Celtic and Sevco "back" out of sync? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I think we've got Rangers at home twice pre-split. I think we were due them twice at Ibrox based on the last couple of seasons and we're at Celtic Park twice, so I think something has been tweaked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Both started the same thread at the same time, I'll close mine and add the comment into here... First game for everyone: 4th August 2018 (all 15:00 kickoff) Celtic .. v .. Livingston Hamilton Accies .. v .. Hearts Hibernian .. v .. Motherwell Kilmarnock .. v .. St. Johnstone St. Mirren .. v .. Dundee 5th August 2018 (13:00 kickoff) Aberdeen .. v .. Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 And of course, to accommodate the "Sevco adjustment", it's had knock-on effects for other teams - Hibs, for instance, are at Dens twice pre-split as they were last season. The SPFL have outdone themselves this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Master said: I'm confused by our fixtures - we go to Ibrox twice pre-split, but we did so last season as well. Isn't the case that fixtures are meant to "swap" each season, with promoted sides taking on the role of the side they just replaced? So if you're at home to someone twice pre-split one season, you're away to them twice pre-split the following season and so on. From inception, the SPL (as-was) designed the fixtures so that if you had Celtic twice, you got Rangers once and vice versa. When the new team that plays at Ibrox found its way to the top league, they happened to be "in sync" with Celtic - meaning teams got both twice at home or twice away. Partick Thistle complained quite strongly about this IIRC. Surely they haven't manipulated the fixtures to put Celtic and Sevco "back" out of sync? That's right. As you say, they've had a problem ever since Rangers got promoted because they took over Dundee United's fixtures, and Dundee United happened to have pretty much the same set of fixtures as Celtic. This meant that more than one team had to play both of the OF twice at home, or twice away, before the split. This also had a knock-on effect in terms of the likelihood of post-split imbalances. They ended up in the situation last season where they were almost guaranteed to have an imbalance, as Rangers had played all four of the other "big five" clubs at home twice. With all of those teams and Killie (who Rangers had also played at home twice) getting into the top six, two of the teams (Killie and Hearts) had to visit Ibrox for a third time. Basically they've decided this year to bite the bullet and reset the fixture list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I'm watching Sky Sports' coverage of the fixtures; they've mentioned Celtic, Rangers, the Premier League, Steven Gerrard, Boreham Wood, Sutton United and a patronising explanation of the split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Better get used to being bottom lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, The Master said: I'm confused by our fixtures - we go to Ibrox twice pre-split, but we did so last season as well. Isn't the case that fixtures are meant to "swap" each season, with promoted sides taking on the role of the side they just replaced? So if you're at home to someone twice pre-split one season, you're away to them twice pre-split the following season and so on. From inception, the SPL (as-was) designed the fixtures so that if you had Celtic twice, you got Rangers once and vice versa. When the new team that plays at Ibrox found its way to the top league, they happened to be "in sync" with Celtic - meaning teams got both twice at home or twice away. Partick Thistle complained quite strongly about this IIRC. Surely they haven't manipulated the fixtures to put Celtic and Sevco "back" out of sync? I don't think it has ever been as simple as that. The fixtures also have to be adjusted to account for the different finishing positions of each team in the previous season, so that three teams from the previous year's top 6 have 17H 16A and three have 16H 17A, with the same being true for the bottom 6. EDIT: As far as I can remember, everyone played exactly 3 Old Firm home fixtures before the split last season, so it's not true that any sort of adjustment like that has been made this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I don't think it has ever been as simple as that. The fixtures also have to be adjusted to account for the different finishing positions of each team in the previous season, so that three teams from the previous year's top 6 have 17H 16A and three have 16H 17A, with the same being true for the bottom 6. EDIT: As far as I can remember, everyone played exactly 3 Old Firm home fixtures before the split last season, so it's not true that any sort of adjustment like that has been made this year. Hearts and Hibs both went to Ibrox and Celtic Park four times before the split last season (2H 4A). Hearts ended up with 3H 5A versus the OF last year because they went to Ibrox a third time after the split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Apologies, you're quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Easy first 3 for us against lower league and financial basket case dross. SPFL favouring the establishment teams, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wright scores Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 visits to Ibrox in 2 seasons - what a complete joke by the SPFL once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, JamesM82 said: Hearts and Hibs both went to Ibrox and Celtic Park four times before the split last season (2H 4A). Hearts ended up with 3H 5A versus the OF last year because they went to Ibrox a third time after the split. Killie had 3H and 5A against them too. Only difference is we played them both away post split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep62 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Great first fixture. Absolutely delighted We're really blessed that we have the first opportunity to watch in awe at the Gerrard revolution. Sure thing....NOT, lets do these fuckers good and proper. 3-0 Aberdeen (Miller hat trick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Apparently the 9th time our first fixture has been away in the last 12 years. More good work from the SPFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylivi1 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Alan Lithgow crunching Scott Brown 2 minutes into the first game of the season will be absolutely joyous and will be celebrated like a goal. *May be the only celebrating we do that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 In case anybody else wants the fixtures in csv format 2018-08-04 15:00,Celtic,Livingston 2018-08-04 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Hearts 2018-08-04 15:00,Hibernian,Motherwell 2018-08-04 15:00,Kilmarnock,St Johnstone 2018-08-04 15:00,St Mirren,Dundee 2018-08-05 13:00,Aberdeen,Rangers 2018-08-11 15:00,Dundee,Aberdeen 2018-08-11 15:00,Hearts,Celtic 2018-08-11 15:00,Livingston,Kilmarnock 2018-08-11 15:00,Motherwell,Hamilton Accies 2018-08-11 15:00,Rangers,St Mirren 2018-08-11 15:00,St Johnstone,Hibernian 2018-08-25 15:00,Celtic,Hamilton Accies 2018-08-25 15:00,Hibernian,Aberdeen 2018-08-25 15:00,Kilmarnock,Hearts 2018-08-25 15:00,Motherwell,Rangers 2018-08-25 15:00,St Johnstone,Dundee 2018-08-25 15:00,St Mirren,Livingston 2018-09-01 15:00,Aberdeen,Kilmarnock 2018-09-01 15:00,Celtic,Rangers 2018-09-01 15:00,Dundee,Motherwell 2018-09-01 15:00,Hamilton Accies,St Johnstone 2018-09-01 15:00,Hearts,St Mirren 2018-09-01 15:00,Livingston,Hibernian 2018-09-15 15:00,Hibernian,Kilmarnock 2018-09-15 15:00,Livingston,Hamilton Accies 2018-09-15 15:00,Motherwell,Hearts 2018-09-15 15:00,Rangers,Dundee 2018-09-15 15:00,St Johnstone,Aberdeen 2018-09-15 15:00,St Mirren,Celtic 2018-09-22 15:00,Aberdeen,Motherwell 2018-09-22 15:00,Dundee,Hibernian 2018-09-22 15:00,Hamilton Accies,St Mirren 2018-09-22 15:00,Hearts,Livingston 2018-09-22 15:00,Kilmarnock,Celtic 2018-09-22 15:00,Rangers,St Johnstone 2018-09-29 15:00,Celtic,Aberdeen 2018-09-29 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Dundee 2018-09-29 15:00,Hearts,St Johnstone 2018-09-29 15:00,Kilmarnock,Motherwell 2018-09-29 15:00,Livingston,Rangers 2018-09-29 15:00,St Mirren,Hibernian 2018-10-06 15:00,Aberdeen,St Mirren 2018-10-06 15:00,Dundee,Kilmarnock 2018-10-06 15:00,Hibernian,Hamilton Accies 2018-10-06 15:00,Motherwell,Livingston 2018-10-06 15:00,Rangers,Hearts 2018-10-06 15:00,St Johnstone,Celtic 2018-10-20 15:00,Celtic,Hibernian 2018-10-20 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Rangers 2018-10-20 15:00,Hearts,Aberdeen 2018-10-20 15:00,Livingston,Dundee 2018-10-20 15:00,Motherwell,St Johnstone 2018-10-20 15:00,St Mirren,Kilmarnock 2018-10-27 15:00,Aberdeen,Livingston 2018-10-27 15:00,Celtic,Motherwell 2018-10-27 15:00,Dundee,Hearts 2018-10-27 15:00,Hibernian,Rangers 2018-10-27 15:00,Kilmarnock,Hamilton Accies 2018-10-27 15:00,St Johnstone,St Mirren 2018-10-31 19:45,Aberdeen,Hamilton Accies 2018-10-31 19:45,Dundee,Celtic 2018-10-31 19:45,Hearts,Hibernian 2018-10-31 19:45,Livingston,St Johnstone 2018-10-31 19:45,Rangers,Kilmarnock 2018-10-31 19:45,St Mirren,Motherwell 2018-11-03 15:00,Celtic,Hearts 2018-11-03 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Livingston 2018-11-03 15:00,Hibernian,St Johnstone 2018-11-03 15:00,Kilmarnock,Aberdeen 2018-11-03 15:00,Motherwell,Dundee 2018-11-03 15:00,St Mirren,Rangers 2018-11-10 15:00,Aberdeen,Hibernian 2018-11-10 15:00,Dundee,St Mirren 2018-11-10 15:00,Hearts,Kilmarnock 2018-11-10 15:00,Livingston,Celtic 2018-11-10 15:00,Rangers,Motherwell 2018-11-10 15:00,St Johnstone,Hamilton Accies 2018-11-24 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Celtic 2018-11-24 15:00,Hibernian,Dundee 2018-11-24 15:00,Motherwell,Aberdeen 2018-11-24 15:00,Rangers,Livingston 2018-11-24 15:00,St Johnstone,Kilmarnock 2018-11-24 15:00,St Mirren,Hearts 2018-12-01 15:00,Aberdeen,Dundee 2018-12-01 15:00,Celtic,St Johnstone 2018-12-01 15:00,Hearts,Rangers 2018-12-01 15:00,Kilmarnock,Hibernian 2018-12-01 15:00,Livingston,Motherwell 2018-12-01 15:00,St Mirren,Hamilton Accies 2018-12-05 19:45,Dundee,Hamilton Accies 2018-12-05 19:45,Hibernian,St Mirren 2018-12-05 19:45,Kilmarnock,Livingston 2018-12-05 19:45,Motherwell,Celtic 2018-12-05 19:45,Rangers,Aberdeen 2018-12-05 19:45,St Johnstone,Hearts 2018-12-08 15:00,Aberdeen,St Johnstone 2018-12-08 15:00,Celtic,Kilmarnock 2018-12-08 15:00,Dundee,Rangers 2018-12-08 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Hibernian 2018-12-08 15:00,Hearts,Motherwell 2018-12-08 15:00,Livingston,St Mirren 2018-12-15 15:00,Hibernian,Celtic 2018-12-15 15:00,Kilmarnock,Dundee 2018-12-15 15:00,Livingston,Hearts 2018-12-15 15:00,Rangers,Hamilton Accies 2018-12-15 15:00,St Johnstone,Motherwell 2018-12-15 15:00,St Mirren,Aberdeen 2018-12-22 15:00,Aberdeen,Hearts 2018-12-22 15:00,Celtic,Dundee 2018-12-22 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Kilmarnock 2018-12-22 15:00,Hibernian,Livingston 2018-12-22 15:00,Motherwell,St Mirren 2018-12-22 15:00,St Johnstone,Rangers 2018-12-26 15:00,Aberdeen,Celtic 2018-12-26 15:00,Dundee,Livingston 2018-12-26 15:00,Hearts,Hamilton Accies 2018-12-26 15:00,Motherwell,Kilmarnock 2018-12-26 15:00,Rangers,Hibernian 2018-12-26 15:00,St Mirren,St Johnstone 2018-12-29 15:00,Dundee,St Johnstone 2018-12-29 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Motherwell 2018-12-29 15:00,Hibernian,Hearts 2018-12-29 15:00,Kilmarnock,St Mirren 2018-12-29 15:00,Livingston,Aberdeen 2018-12-29 15:00,Rangers,Celtic 2019-01-23 19:45,Celtic,St Mirren 2019-01-23 19:45,Hamilton Accies,Aberdeen 2019-01-23 19:45,Hearts,Dundee 2019-01-23 19:45,Kilmarnock,Rangers 2019-01-23 19:45,Motherwell,Hibernian 2019-01-23 19:45,St Johnstone,Livingston 2019-01-26 15:00,Aberdeen,Kilmarnock 2019-01-26 15:00,Celtic,Hamilton Accies 2019-01-26 15:00,Dundee,Motherwell 2019-01-26 15:00,Hearts,St Johnstone 2019-01-26 15:00,Livingston,Rangers 2019-01-26 15:00,St Mirren,Hibernian 2019-02-02 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Dundee 2019-02-02 15:00,Hibernian,Aberdeen 2019-02-02 15:00,Kilmarnock,Hearts 2019-02-02 15:00,Motherwell,Livingston 2019-02-02 15:00,Rangers,St Mirren 2019-02-02 15:00,St Johnstone,Celtic 2019-02-06 19:45,Aberdeen,Rangers 2019-02-06 19:45,Celtic,Hibernian 2019-02-06 19:45,Dundee,Kilmarnock 2019-02-06 19:45,Hamilton Accies,St Johnstone 2019-02-06 19:45,Hearts,Livingston 2019-02-06 19:45,St Mirren,Motherwell 2019-02-16 15:00,Aberdeen,St Mirren 2019-02-16 15:00,Hibernian,Hamilton Accies 2019-02-16 15:00,Kilmarnock,Celtic 2019-02-16 15:00,Livingston,Dundee 2019-02-16 15:00,Motherwell,Hearts 2019-02-16 15:00,Rangers,St Johnstone 2019-02-23 15:00,Celtic,Motherwell 2019-02-23 15:00,Dundee,Hibernian 2019-02-23 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Rangers 2019-02-23 15:00,Hearts,St Mirren 2019-02-23 15:00,Livingston,Kilmarnock 2019-02-23 15:00,St Johnstone,Aberdeen 2019-02-27 19:45,Aberdeen,Hamilton Accies 2019-02-27 19:45,Hearts,Celtic 2019-02-27 19:45,Kilmarnock,Motherwell 2019-02-27 19:45,Rangers,Dundee 2019-02-27 19:45,St Johnstone,Hibernian 2019-02-27 19:45,St Mirren,Livingston 2019-03-09 15:00,Celtic,Aberdeen 2019-03-09 15:00,Dundee,Hearts 2019-03-09 15:00,Hibernian,Rangers 2019-03-09 15:00,Livingston,St Johnstone 2019-03-09 15:00,Motherwell,Hamilton Accies 2019-03-09 15:00,St Mirren,Kilmarnock 2019-03-16 15:00,Aberdeen,Livingston 2019-03-16 15:00,Dundee,Celtic 2019-03-16 15:00,Hamilton Accies,Hearts 2019-03-16 15:00,Hibernian,Motherwell 2019-03-16 15:00,Rangers,Kilmarnock 2019-03-16 15:00,St Johnstone,St Mirren 2019-03-30 15:00,Celtic,Rangers 2019-03-30 15:00,Hearts,Aberdeen 2019-03-30 15:00,Kilmarnock,Hamilton Accies 2019-03-30 15:00,Livingston,Hibernian 2019-03-30 15:00,Motherwell,St Johnstone 2019-03-30 15:00,St Mirren,Dundee 2019-04-03 19:45,Aberdeen,Motherwell 2019-04-03 19:45,Hibernian,Kilmarnock 2019-04-03 19:45,Livingston,Hamilton Accies 2019-04-03 19:45,Rangers,Hearts 2019-04-03 19:45,St Johnstone,Dundee 2019-04-03 19:45,St Mirren,Celtic 2019-04-06 15:00,Celtic,Livingston 2019-04-06 15:00,Dundee,Aberdeen 2019-04-06 15:00,Hamilton Accies,St Mirren 2019-04-06 15:00,Hearts,Hibernian 2019-04-06 15:00,Kilmarnock,St Johnstone 2019-04-06 15:00,Motherwell,Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Anyone know why Celtic start with 3 out of 4 home games ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 It's impossible to schedule fixtures with just a regular HAHA pattern, because eventually two of the clubs who are at home on the first weekend have to play each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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