mick90 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Pyramid News has raised the spectre of a Junior cup wash-out in September, which must be very close as only 29 ties went on last season and two north clubs are not starting this year. It raises the question of whether it is sensible to have a `blank` or tiny round then ... or maybe delaying that until November, which usually produces lots of postponements and replays all the way through winter ... It is easily done ... simply draw enough byes to leave an `even` round in October ... then pull a couple of numbers for the few who would need to play in November .. Can SJFA move on .... or will they dish out the same old .. same old .. crap ? Maybe we know the answer already ... On the site, I believe the photos from Monday`s massive attendance at Shortlees show what the public really want ... and when they want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpLok Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I think there are 62 or 63 West Clubs (Johnstone Burgh banned for 2018, Dunipace left for EOS, possibly a new Stonehouse Violet joining) 36 East Clubs 32 North Clubs (Lewis United Folding, Inverness City in Abeyance) So that suggests round one will consist of either 2 or 3 ties depending on whether Stonehouse join. Certainly seems logical to try and play more than 2 ties in September. Whether the blazers will agree is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Changes proposed for the early rounds which may solve the problem if accepted by all the clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomhill Ultra Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 What’s the weather like in the Algarve just now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Changes proposed for the early rounds which may solve the problem if accepted by all the clubs The main one being that everyone plays in round 1 then the byes are done in round 2.Sent from my SM-G930F using Pie and Bovril mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21stcenturyboy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, peasy23 said: The main one being that everyone plays in round 1 then the byes are done in round 2. Sent from my SM-G930F using Pie and Bovril mobile app Thatwouldvbe by far5he best scenario Have all in round 1 in middle of August Have Round 2 which will include byes at Start of September and you are possibly at last 32 before bad weather kicks in therefore limiting fixture congestion Ps scrapreplays too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 See we're not all dinosaurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny131 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 The blazers won't be thinking g that far ahead no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen's Dad Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 What happens round one if u have odd number of teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Are Saltcoats banned next season as well? They couldn't field a team in round 1 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS7 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, peasy23 said: The main one being that everyone plays in round 1 then the byes are done in round 2. Sent from my SM-G930F using Pie and Bovril mobile app I’ve never heard the utter nonsense. Not aimed at you btw - you obviously never came up with the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 What happens round one if u have odd number of teams? You play enough ties to make sure an odd number go out.Sent from my SM-A520F using Pie and Bovril mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th1stleandr0se Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 hours ago, peasy23 said: The main one being that everyone plays in round 1 then the byes are done in round 2. Sent from my SM-G930F using Pie and Bovril mobile app OK, so you start with 130 clubs, you play 65 ties so you end up with 65 teams in the draw for round 2. How many byes do you have to give? The answer is 63!!! You play 1 tie. Not much improvement there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen's Dad Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Thanks Glensmad. Feel like I’ve wandered into an episode of Father Ted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollokfan1987 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Are Saltcoats banned next season as well? They couldn't field a team in round 1 this season. Only know so far Johnstone Burgh are banned from the Junior Cup next SeasonSent from my 9007X using Pie and Bovril mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS7 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, th1stleandr0se said: OK, so you start with 130 clubs, you play 65 ties so you end up with 65 teams in the draw for round 2. How many byes do you have to give? The answer is 63!!! You play 1 tie. Not much improvement there. 130 is a rubbish number, but why not play 2 preliminary ties based regionally at Start of August, and then 1st Round Proper at end of August? Draw it at the same time as the preliminary ties? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen's Dad Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Think we’ve almost got something sensible. Preliminary round end of August - enough ties played to leave 128 teams in competition. First round (used to be second) end of September. Second round end of October. That leaves 32 teams standing then close the tournament over the Winter and resume March. Scrap replays and 2 legged SFs and we might get some league games played before May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsPhil Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 10 hours ago, pollokfan1987 said: Only know so far Johnstone Burgh are banned from the Junior Cup next Season Sent from my 9007X using Pie and Bovril mobile app Islavale CBA for 2017-18's - the only Junior Club who did not enter. Doesn't that mean they therefore get a ban from 2018-19's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21stcenturyboy Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 18 hours ago, th1stleandr0se said: OK, so you start with 130 clubs, you play 65 ties so you end up with 65 teams in the draw for round 2. How many byes do you have to give? The answer is 63!!! You play 1 tie. Not much improvement there. Sounds daft but that would be the solution - only difference being that round 2 and 3 would need to be drawn at same time and played same day (including the solitary round 2 game)- then all round 3 ties could be done in September with exception of the one - still a better solution than we have currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-german exile Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 OK, so you start with 130 clubs, you play 65 ties so you end up with 65 teams in the draw for round 2. How many byes do you have to give? The answer is 63!!! You play 1 tie. Not much improvement there. Exactly. Only someone who doesn't understand the arithmetic of a cup draw could suggest such nonsense. The byes must be in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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