The Royal Wedding

[John Lambies Doos]

Palace has just announced Meghan and Harry are expecting

[SandyCromarty]

It's events like this that the monarchy uses to sugar coat their greed, I believe the cost of the security alone was £32 million which we the tax payers paid for.

As an example of their outright greed George the Third surrendered the Crown Estates, the biggest landowner in the UK. to the government to get out of paying for the civil service, armies and navy's etc, in return the Monarch got monies from the Civil List.

The vast profits from the CE since that time is paid into the treasury to benefit the nation.

Ever since all monarch's have fought to get some of the Crown Estate profits back to them.

This year the queen finally succeeded in getting 15% paid directly to her, that amounted to £75 million, with her income from the Duchy of Lancaster her income for this year was just under £100 million.

Further the £75 million she received this year cannot be less next year and so on and feckin on.

The Scottish Government have for some years now asked for the Crown Estate profits raised in Scotland to be paid to them to benefit Scotland but The Treasury has repeatedly fecked them off.

Another feckin scam they get up to is claiming that presents she receives on foreign state visits belong to her and the monarchy, imagine what the Saudis give her, as the UK's Head of State all presents she receives on these visits belong to the state, you and I,

The Queens gallery at Buckingham Palace contains countless priceless paintings by famous artists which various governments, John Major being the most vociferous,  have argued that many of those belong to the state, she and those before her strongly deny this and to cap it all you and I have to pay to enter the queens gallery to view them.

It's all feckin thievery at the end of the day and hopefully future generations will wake up to it.

Edited May 20, 2018 by SandyCromarty
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[throbber]

^^^ yet a hundred thousand fools lined the streets to celebrate one of them getting married!

[John Lambies Doos]

^^^ yet a hundred thousand fools lined the streets to celebrate one of them getting married!

And millions watched around the world.....

[Herman Hessian]

2 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said:

Palace has just announced Meghan and Harry are expecting

see - this is where that ridiculous American use of "has" falls on its arse (or ass); reading that and applying the witless colonialism, it sounds as if Roy Hodgson has just revealed the happy (sic) news to the nation, tacking it on to a soundbite about Wilfrid Zaha's injury and the fact that they're playing a pre-season friendly against Sutton United...

[The Master]

1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said:

It's events like this that the monarchy uses to sugar coat their greed, I believe the cost of the security alone was £32 million which we the tax payers paid for.

Not specifically about yesterday, but these huge figures that are always quoted for the cost of security “on the taxpayer” are always a bit misleading. It’s always presented as if someone rocked up to The Treasury with a bill for millions of pounds, to be paid out of a pot labelled “Taxes”.

The vast majority of the costs are for resources, including human, that will be paid for regardless. For instance, police officers lining the route the carriage took will have been paid whether they were standing around like lemons for hours, or wandering the streets of Windsor on patrol.

Obviously there will be direct costs, such as overtime, erection of fences etc. But it won’t be anywhere near the headline figures we always see.

Which means the question isn’t so much “should we spend this much?” as “should those resources be diverted from other places/duties?”. 

[madmitch]

[John Lambies Doos]

It's events like this that the monarchy uses to sugar coat their greed, I believe the cost of the security alone was £32 million which we the tax payers paid for.
As an example of their outright greed George the Third surrendered the Crown Estates, the biggest landowner in the UK. to the government to get out of paying for the civil service, armies and navy's etc, in return the Monarch got monies from the Civil List.
The vast profits from the CE since that time is paid into the treasury to benefit the nation.
Ever since all monarch's have fought to get some of the Crown Estate profits back to them.
This year the queen finally succeeded in getting 15% paid directly to her, that amounted to £75 million, with her income from the Duchy of Lancaster her income for this year was just under £100 million.
Further the £75 million she received this year cannot be less next year and so on and feckin on.
The Scottish Government have for some years now asked for the Crown Estate profits raised in Scotland to be paid to them to benefit Scotland but The Treasury has repeatedly fecked them off.
Another feckin scam they get up to is claiming that presents she receives on foreign state visits belong to her and the monarchy, imagine what the Saudis give her, as the UK's Head of State all presents she receives on these visits belong to the state, you and I,
The Queens gallery at Buckingham Palace contains countless priceless paintings by famous artists which various governments, John Major being the most vociferous,  have argued that many of those belong to the state, she and those before her strongly deny this and to cap it all you and I have to pay to enter the queens gallery to view them.
It's all feckin thievery at the end of the day and hopefully future generations will wake up to it.

John Major's a c**t. End of

[Jacksgranda]

17 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

 

John Major's a c**t. End of

 

He speaks very highly of you.

[SandyCromarty]

57 minutes ago, The Master said:

Not specifically about yesterday, but these huge figures that are always quoted for the cost of security “on the taxpayer” are always a bit misleading. It’s always presented as if someone rocked up to The Treasury with a bill for millions of pounds, to be paid out of a pot labelled “Taxes”.

The vast majority of the costs are for resources, including human, that will be paid for regardless. For instance, police officers lining the route the carriage took will have been paid whether they were standing around like lemons for hours, or wandering the streets of Windsor on patrol.

Obviously there will be direct costs, such as overtime, erection of fences etc. But it won’t be anywhere near the headline figures we always see.

Which means the question isn’t so much “should we spend this much?” as “should those resources be diverted from other places/duties?”. 

Your reasoning is sound in that the police would have been paid anyway but I doubt that as quoted the whole of the Thames Valley Police Force would normally all be on duty on any one particular day as they were yesterday, plus other area police forces were involved not counting the military personnel, in addition the costs quoted was for the weeks before and up to the event when the procession route alone was scrutinised and buildings, drains and possible covert areas were searched etc, this alone involved much specialist army and police personnel,  also consider the significant cost in the electronic scanning of mobile phone and other devices keyword transmissions for the area, GCHQ would have been involved in that. 

And you are right when you mention diverted resources from other areas.

It was also mentioned, though I think that it is unlikely, that as Windsor is in Heathrows flight path, flights were diverted and/or suspended for two hours during the ceremony. 

 

 

 

Edited May 20, 2018 by SandyCromarty

[SandyCromarty]

20 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

 

John Major's a c**t. End of

 

You're right, He's a Tory and that sums him up for me.

But he was the guy that got her to start paying tax when she came to his government and asked us the tax payers to fund the repairs to HER windsor castle after that fire she had, feckin cheek!

Mind you nobody knows how much tax she actually pays now.

[The Master]

Just now, SandyCromarty said:

Your reasoning is sound in that the police would have been paid anyway but I doubt that as quoted the whole of the Thames Valley Police Force would not normally all be on duty on any one particular day as they were yesterday, plus other area police forces were involved not counting the military personnel, in addition the costs quoted was for the weeks before and up to the event when the procession route alone was scrutinised and buildings, drains and possible covert areas were searched etc, this alone involved much specialist army and police personnel,  also consider the significant cost in the electronic scanning of mobile phone and other devices keyword transmissions for the area, GCHQ would have been involved in that. 

And you are right when you mention diverted resources from other areas.

It was also mentioned, though I think that it is unlikely, that as Windsor is in Heathrows flight path, flights were diverted and/or suspended for two hours during the ceremony. 

 

I'm also led to believe that as Windsor is in Heathrow's flight path flights were diverted and/or suspended for two hours with subsequent costs.

 

Heathrow voluntarily stopped westerly operations for 15 minutes at 11.45am, but otherwise flights continued as normal.

There was a ban on aircraft (including drones) below 2,500 feet, but arriving or departing flights are above that at 7 miles out.

[Granny Danger]

10 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

He speaks very highly of you.

He’s definitely a c**t then.

 

 

[AyrshireTon]

The bookies had to pay out on both yellow and green for bets on the colour of the Queen's outfit.

[Cardinal Richelieu]

Does anyone know this Michael Rossiter fellow? If so, you can tell him from me he should be called Michael Roaster. 

[Fullerene]

1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said:

And millions watched around the world.....

 

 

.. and yet they do a splendid job as ambassadors to the world encouraging other countries to buy British.

Come on, wouldn't you be sorely tempted to buy half a dozen British made fighter jets if a member of the Royal Family suggested that you should?

[John Lambies Doos]

Does anyone know this Michael Rossiter fellow? If so, you can tell him from me he should be called Michael Roaster. 

ImRoger mate...

[SandyCromarty]

1 hour ago, Fullerene said:

.. and yet they do a splendid job as ambassadors to the world encouraging other countries to buy British.

Come on, wouldn't you be sorely tempted to buy half a dozen British made fighter jets if a member of the Royal Family suggested that you should?

Maybe so but American Presidents sell more to  foreign governments.

Plus we don't build that many stand alone British fighter jets, we are mostly involved in a European project for the Eurofighter Typhoon and we also purchase american built.

But the other side of it is when Sarah Ferguson was caught trying to sell access to the Royal Family for money to a journalist posing as an arab.

Prince Edwards wife Sophie was also caught out as I recall on some access she was offering wasn't it.

And what about Air Miles Andy he's a total sponger.

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[BawWatchin]

Deserves a repost tbh.

On 14/05/2018 at 21:08, Consolidate said:

f**k them and their wretched family.

[SandyCromarty]

On an earlier post on this thread I mentioned the greed of the Royal family but I have just read an article which really takes the biscuit.

Apparently the many, was there 6000, charity workers, community stalwarts and volunteers who were invited to the wedding to stand on the lawns outside the chapel were handed Harry and Meghan wedding goody bags.

The bags contained shortbread, chocolate and best of all A 20% OFF VOUCHER FOR THE WINDSOR CASTLE GIFT SHOP!.

As we all know Windsor Castle and the gift shop is owned by the queen.

Is there no end to this family's feckin downright cheek and greed.