topcat(The most tip top) Posted Monday at 14:08 Share Posted Monday at 14:08 37 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Reading the article - 5th para: “Scotland had a slower rise than the UK as a whole but remains the worst-affected country for alcohol-specific deaths.” Quote The number of alcohol-specific deaths in Scotland has hit a record high after rates skyrocketed 25% in five years. Data released by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) revealed 1,276 people north of the border died directly from alcohol in 2022. That’s up slightly from the 1,245 cases in 2021 but represents a 25% increase from pre-pandemic figures in 2019 when 1,020 people died. Alcohol deaths have sharply risen across Britain post-Covid with ONS figures showing the entire UK recorded its highest number on record. There were 10,048 deaths across the UK in 2022, a 4.2% rise from the year before and a third higher than the number in 2019. Scotland had a slower rise than the UK as a whole but remains the worst-affected country for alcohol-specific deaths. Given the noise in the data caused by Covid any attempts to unequivocally declare the MUP experiment to be a success or failure must be seen as either scientifically illiterate or disingenuous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted Monday at 14:13 Share Posted Monday at 14:13 5 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Given the noise in the data caused by Covid any attempts to unequivocally declare the MUP experiment to be a success or failure must be seen as either scientifically illiterate or disingenuous. Agreed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted Monday at 14:17 Share Posted Monday at 14:17 Although as it hasn't actually told us anything it is a "failed experiment" in one particular sense of the phrase 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted Monday at 15:16 Share Posted Monday at 15:16 1 hour ago, Wee Bully said: You are of course right. We would have been better matching the rise in the rest of the UK. This is true if you are selective about the starting point. If we began in (say) 1950 and matched the UK rises then we would be far better off than we currently are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted Monday at 15:33 Share Posted Monday at 15:33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted Monday at 18:19 Share Posted Monday at 18:19 3 hours ago, strichener said: This is true if you are selective about the starting point. If we began in (say) 1950 and matched the UK rises then we would be far better off than we currently are. Given this is a thread about MUP, not sure why 1950 is in anyway relevant here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted Monday at 20:58 Share Posted Monday at 20:58 2 hours ago, Wee Bully said: Given this is a thread about MUP, not sure why 1950 is in anyway relevant here? It’s the faster rise in Scotland since the ‘50s that drove the decision to try MUP in Scotland before the rest of the UK. Unless @strichenerhas had a damascene conversion on this issue it seems a strange point for him to be making 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted Monday at 22:13 Share Posted Monday at 22:13 1 hour ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: It’s the faster rise in Scotland since the ‘50s that drove the decision to try MUP in Scotland before the rest of the UK. Unless @strichenerhas had a damascene conversion on this issue it seems a strange point for him to be making To be honest, I don’t think he read past the headline 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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