Sergeant Wilson Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, ayrmad said: 38 infants at 23 weeks, 4 died, 23 survived to discharge, 22 survived to 2 years of age, 11 had no moderate/severe disability. 60 infants at 24 weeks, 1 died, 40 survived to discharge, 36 survived to years of age, 23 had no moderate/severe disability. None of those numbers would tell me to just give up on a 23 week old without a fight. Bet 365 could cover this when there's not much football on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 50 minutes ago, whiskychimp said: That would work as an argument against abortion. No, it really wouldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Stunned by the identities of the 'I'm not anti-abortion, but...' brigade on this thread. Stunned, I tell you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, DrewDon said: Stunned by the identities of the 'I'm not anti-abortion, but...' brigade on this thread. Stunned, I tell you. Just for clarification, not being a fan of abortion doesn't preclude me from being pro abortion in this debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Stunned by the identities of the 'I'm not anti-abortion, but...' brigade on this thread. Stunned, I tell you. I’m stunned by the total disregard some people have for unborn children. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 hours ago, ayrmad said: I'm doing fine on the Morton thread. Quite right. You are by some distance the most sane person on the Morton thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Rugster said: No, it really wouldn't. Really would. By your logic a guy should think of getting a girl pregnant prior to having sex but a girl shouldn't think about getting pregnant prior to sex. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, whiskychimp said: Really would. By your logic a guy should think of getting a girl pregnant prior to having sex but a girl shouldn't think about getting pregnant prior to sex. No, it really wouldn't. I'll give you two examples to try and get into your tiny mind. One, a woman who has been raped, two, a woman who's life is in danger if the pregnancy continued. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 No, it really wouldn't. I'll give you two examples to try and get into your tiny mind. One, a woman who has been raped, two, a woman who's life is in danger if the pregnancy continued. You didn’t say that at the start though you said he should have thought about the consequences of having sex before he did it. Would you say that to a woman who’s health wasn’t at risk and had fallen pregnant due to consensual intercourse yet wanted an abortion? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, Rugster said: No, it really wouldn't. I'll give you two examples to try and get into your tiny mind. One, a woman who has been raped, two, a woman who's life is in danger if the pregnancy continued. Lolz. What have either of those got to do with a man being financially responsible for a "collection of cells" that he didn't want. Try and stick to he point 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, throbber said: You didn’t say that at the start though you said he should have thought about the consequences of having sex before he did it. Would you say that to a woman who’s health wasn’t at risk and had fallen pregnant due to consensual intercourse yet wanted an abortion? Yes, she should have thought about the consequences but it's still her body and she still has the right to choose. 3 minutes ago, whiskychimp said: Lolz. What have either of those got to do with a man being financially responsible for a "collection of cells" that he didn't want. Try and stick to he point You're the one that said the argument could be used against abortion, I've shown you why it can't. Sorry if you're too stupid to understand that. Edited April 26, 2018 by Rugster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Any woman who is pregnant may be at risk at any time of her pregnancy, doesn’t mean she isn’t responsible for getting pregnant. Your comment about how the man should have thought before he had sex if he didn’t want to end up in a position where the woman was pregnant and wanting an abortion is fair enough but it applies to the woman as well. By the sounds of it you wouldn’t tell a woman she should have thought about the consequence of having sex before she ended up with an unwanted pregnancy as you dodged the question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, throbber said: Any woman who is pregnant may be at risk at any time of her pregnancy, doesn’t mean she isn’t responsible for getting pregnant. Your comment about how the man should have thought before he had sex if he didn’t want to end up in a position where the woman was pregnant and wanting an abortion is fair enough but it applies to the woman as well. By the sounds of it you wouldn’t tell a woman she should have thought about the consequence of having sex before she ended up with an unwanted pregnancy as you dodged the question. No, I would tell the woman that, as I said, but I still respect her right to choose. To be fair I misread your post at first and edited my response. Edited April 26, 2018 by Rugster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Can we stop this "collection of cells" nonsense please. Even when you're born you're still a collection of cells. It's a pish description. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Born again throbber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 35 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: Quite right. You are by some distance the most sane person on the Morton thread. Is that a pat on the back with the left and a big looping right on the temple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 17 hours ago, whiskychimp said: I agree it's the woman's choice but..... You've had a bit of my jizz inside you therefore I should be financially responsible for a child you've chosen to have against my wishes. Just to play the other side of this. 7 hours ago, Rugster said: Should have thought of that before having sex then. 4 minutes ago, Rugster said: No, it really wouldn't. I'll give you two examples to try and get into your tiny mind. One, a woman who has been raped, two, a woman who's life is in danger if the pregnancy continued. Ever think of being consistent. pretty big jump you've made there ; Im pretty sure rapists don't think of the financial aspects of looking after the child. On the two examples you give, 100% I think you are correct but it wasn't what I was talking about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, whiskychimp said: Ever think of being consistent. pretty big jump you've made there ; Im pretty sure rapists don't think of the financial aspects of looking after the child. On the two examples you give, 100% I think you are correct but it wasn't what I was talking about. Oh, ok. It could be used as an argument against abortion, but not really? And you talk about consistency? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, Rugster said: Oh, ok. It could be used as an argument against abortion, but not really? And you talk about consistency? At last you're accepting you changed the parameters. Nice to see some humility from such a huge mind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, whiskychimp said: At last you're accepting you changed the parameters. Nice to see some humility from such a huge mind. I'll just leave you to it now, you've proven on here in the past you're a moron so batter on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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