Number1IsJamieAdams Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 17 hours ago, greggyt1985 said: 18 hours ago, jm86 said: Don't think we've necessarily lost form. The Stranraer defeat was quite simply due to Shankland getting sent off. Stupid challenge which, as they say, gave the ref a decision to make. Viewed through my magic black and white specs, I thought a red was slightly harsh. And that ref had already stolen two points off us by giving Alloa a phantom penalty in our 3-3 draw at Somerset. A mistake he later acknowledged. Thought the ref on Sunday had balanced the books by giving us what looked like a softish penalty. But there you go. Not only did Shankland cost us the Stranraer game but significantly weakened us for the next two. We also lost Reid to injury early on, one of our two remaining fit full backs. You might say a perfect storm. So for the Alloa game we were without 5 first team players - Boyle, Reid, Docherty, Higgins, Shankland. It should have been 6, as Geegan should not have been in the squad as he was not fully fit. A calculated gamble that didn't pay off as he cost us both goals. All teams get injuries obviously but our mini crisis has hit at just the wrong time. Chance the manager takes when he signs injury prone players. Alloa would have been tough even with our full squad available, so defeat was no surprise. Yet, at the end of the day we threw the draw, and potentially the league, away by missing a penalty. Can't be too harsh about Shankland and Moore given they've scored nearly 50 goals between them and helped immensely in getting us to where we were 2 games ago, with the league effectively in the bag. Talking about teams not trying, I don't think they consciously go out and decide they couldn't care less about the result. But it definitely takes that edge away that you need to win tight games. Both Alloa and Stranraer needed points when we played them. Stranraer didn't when you played them, barring some outlandish high scoring. Alloa don't when you play them unless they have some preference between 3rd and 4th. Also I honestly think they would prefer us in the playoffs rather than Raith, given they've beaten us twice this season and drawn once. See what paranoia can do to you. And that's from someone whose forever slagging off online conspiracy theorists. Finally, Raith have form when it comes to nicking the title off us. Didn't you do it about 10 years ago when we drew with Alloa (them again !) and you beat QP. If I remember rightly, you had a storming finish that time as well with something like 8 wins in a row. Given our head to head games, Ayr would appear to be by far the better team. But you've got to do it against the so called smaller teams as well and Raith have done that a lot better than us. Assuming luck evens out over a season the final table doesn't lie. Also, Raith can't hold a candle to us when it comes to conceding comedy goals. Geegan's howler on Sunday was simply the latest in a catalogue of similar travesties throughout the season. I assume most of you have already had a quick gloat over the You Tube compilation somebody kindly put online. I confidently predict a comfortable Raith win on Saturday. It's only natural that you lot are a bit nervous about it. You might do what we did against Stranraer, for example. But don't worry, you won't. If by some miracle you do drop points, it would be peak Ayr to emulate you. Albion still need a point to ensure 9th. so I think it's going to be a tough game. Ideally, you lose and we draw so we win the league on goal difference. A fitting reward for our magnificent goal difference. By far the better team? You guys beat us twice... We won one and drew the other. Hardly a massive gap between the teams(the table will back this up) . We have lost three games less and much better defensive record. Don't know where you ayr fans get that uz are by far a better team!! No point in scoring plenty goals if you can't defend . you beat us 2-1 cause our goalie threw both goals in the net. We have played you off the park in at least 3 of the 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostZapper Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 hours ago, pub car king said: Is keep the same team as the last couple of weeks but i'd be keen to get Spence and Willis on against a tiring defence if needed. I'd prefer to start Willis, prob in favour of Zanatta, and go with a front 4 of Willis - Vaughan - Buchanan/Spence - Barr Zannata's best games seem to be coming off the bench. Not fussed between Spence and Buchanan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I'd far rather we started Zanatta. Furtado has looked a bit out of sorts over the last few weeks, where Dario has scored and assisted over the last few weekends. Either way, we've got a wealth of experience in the squad to choose from. I'd be delighted if we kept the same team as Saturday and played to the same tempo. With that said, our home crowd are utterly ridiculous for getting on the players backs. Even against Queens Park at 2-0 up they were moaning about us seeing out the game rather than putting players in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Oor Willis said: I'd far rather we started Zanatta. Furtado has looked a bit out of sorts over the last few weeks, where Dario has scored and assisted over the last few weekends. Either way, we've got a wealth of experience in the squad to choose from. I'd be delighted if we kept the same team as Saturday and played to the same tempo. With that said, our home crowd are utterly ridiculous for getting on the players backs. Even against Queens Park at 2-0 up they were moaning about us seeing out the game rather than putting players in the box. I suspect, for one week only, that the crowd would be pretty ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, renton said: I suspect, for one week only, that the crowd would be pretty ok with that. I can see usual folk about me foaming at the mouth at any sort of attack. Some of the reactions for misplaced passes are ridiculous. Ideally we'll do the same as last Saturday and score early and dominate the first half. I'm optimistic and I think we'll get the win we need, but it'll be a narrow game decided by a late goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, Oor Willis said: I can see usual folk about me foaming at the mouth at any sort of attack. Some of the reactions for misplaced passes are ridiculous. Ideally we'll do the same as last Saturday and score early and dominate the first half. I'm optimistic and I think we'll get the win we need, but it'll be a narrow game decided by a late goal. Any win will do obviously but not sure my nerves can take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, renton said: Any win will do obviously but not sure my nervers can take that. Pretty sure everyone's the same. Any win will do. There's probably some masochists who are hoping for an Aguero style moment. One thing I'm looking forward to is the atmosphere when the players come out the tunnel. The ground should be absolutely bouncing at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, renton said: Any win will do obviously but not sure my nervers can take that. If we win we'll have to make a concerted effort to get that in the OED next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Odd English Dictionary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover94 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 It does not matter how we win as long as we win even if we play rubbish and win I won’t care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number1IsJamieAdams Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 17 hours ago, SuperHans said: I suppose the fact that you've lost more games than us and only won 1 more and that a season is played over 36 games and not just 4 against your nearest rivals proves your point... Alloa have beaten you twice, drawn once and only lost to you once (same record that you have against us). Would this make them the better team between you and them? I'd say Alloa are better than Raith to be honest and no team can argue about injuries over Ayr's injuries all season. Ours have been insane. No excuses though - we bottled it plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith25 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I'd say Alloa are better than Raith to be honest We’re 15 points clear of them, don’t talk shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHans Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Don't know about anyone else on here but I just watched the silent video of pictures from this season and I am BUZZING for Saturday now!! If you know anyone who's in 2 minds on whether to go along on Saturday then be sure to show them that to wet their appetite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I'd say Alloa are better than Raith to be honest and no team can argue about injuries over Ayr's injuries all season. Ours have been insane. No excuses though - we bottled it plain and simple. Ayr and Raith are the two best teams in this league. The fact that they’re 15 points clear of everyone else shows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher brash Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 18 hours ago, pandarilla said: You're missing the point. Ayr didn't just beat rovers twice, we absolutely destroyed you twice. Add to that the fact that your only win against us was ridiculously fortunate and your have quite a compelling case. We're the better team... We just shat the bed. I don’t get your point ! Ayr better than Rovers means nothing if we win the league, So Alloa and Arbroath are better than Ayr then going by your logic of head to head games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHans Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I don’t get your point ! Ayr better than Rovers means nothing if we win the league, So Alloa and Arbroath are better than Ayr then going by your logic of head to head games? Aye but Ayr took over a thousand fans to Alloa and we only took 90 to Stranrear so they're clearly the better team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher brash Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Number1IsJamieAdams said: I'd say Alloa are better than Raith to be honest and no team can argue about injuries over Ayr's injuries all season. Ours have been insane. No excuses though - we bottled it plain and simple. How do you base Alloa are better than Rovers when we have a win and 2 away draws against them so far this season! Regarding injuries every team has had injuries including Rovers who have had there fair share so sorry that argument doesn’t count also signing injury prone players wouldn’t help including Mark Kerr, Andy Geegan and Stevie Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Andy Geggan wasn't injury prone at Dunfermline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Andy Geggan wasn't injury prone at Dunfermline? Exactly he picked up an injury against Alloa this season but kept on playing which probably made it worse. There’s a difference between being injury prone and having a big injury that affects your career. Bell isn’t injury prone but had a bad injury at Dunfermline that put him out for ages. Ross Docherty on the other hand is injury prone. Had numerous injuries stretching back to his time at Livingston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Andy Geggan wasn't injury prone at Dunfermline? Aye. After 3 and a half years of consistent injuries under the same manager it’s quite astonishing that more Ayr fans haven’t started to question the managers ability to condition the players correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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