Antiochas III Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The OPCW rules mean they're not allowed to attribute blame. So we're no further forward than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Just now, Antiochas III said: So we're no further forward than before. An independent body has confirmed Porton Down's findings. People were questioning that it ever happened given hopefully the survival of the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The conclusion given by OPCW is: Some sort of Nerve Agent. Not what kind, where it came from or who administered it. UK's position is it was Novichok, it came from Russia and the Russians did it. So the OPCW have not backed the UK claims per the report by the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Antiochas III said: The conclusion given by OPCW is: Some sort of Nerve Agent. Not what kind, where it came from or who administered it. UK's position is it was Novichok, it came from Russia and the Russians did it. So the OPCW have not backed the UK claims per the report by the UK Quote The results of the analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirms the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people.” The OPCW, which does identify the chemical by its complex formula in a classified report that has not been made public, also notes in its summary that the chemical had an “almost complete absence” of impurities. As I said before, the OPCW are not allowed under their rules to attribute blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 So still no proof it was the russkies apart from a Bungling Boris statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, doulikefish said: So still no proof it was the russkies apart from a Bungling Boris statement Boris is the Kim Jong-un of England. He need only open his mouth and the masses swallow and obey without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, BawWatchin said: Boris is the Kim Jong-un of England. He need only open his mouth and the masses swallow and obey without question. Not a perfect analogy, as I don't have a deep seated desire to hammer broken glass into Kim Jong-Un's face with a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Boris just can't stop lying about this. Still spouting that only Russia has the means and motive to do this, when even the BBC had an expert on who said around a dozen countries can probably produce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Top trolling by the russkies saying "Britian staged "the alleged chemical attack in Syria [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Top trolling by the russkies saying "Britian staged "the alleged chemical attack in Syria [emoji23] Was this the interview on Sky News? That was quite funny. Nearly as funny as the UK ambassador making some weird connection between Marx and present day Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 They're a right giggle these neurotoxins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 So Russia says it has irrefutable proof it was the British, while the US and France say they have proof it was Syria. As usual the truth is probably somewhere in between. Belgium imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Six days ago the Russians said they had sent a team of experts into Douma and had found no evidence of a chemical attack. Four days later there was a chemical attack, carried out by big boys who ran away. Yesterday, Britain did it. I think the Russian "experts" are a bit shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 And incidentally, the OPCW establishes if a chemical agent was used and what it was. The UN Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM) investigates to find out who carried out the attack. Russia has delegates with both. The JIM investigated last year and found Syria had used sarin against it's own people. The JIM is convened after a suspected chemical attack. Since the sarin attack, Russia has vetoed the re-convening of the JIM four times and it vetoed it again the day after the latest chemical weapons attack in Douma. Russia calls for investigations then vetoes any investigation taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Its all very "weapons of mass destruction"Incidentally just over a year ago the last time the yanks chucked some ordanance into Syria it was to destroy assads chemical weapons facilities [emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 We have dangerously stupid leaders in charge of France, the UK and the USA and a compliant media that have abdicated all responsibility to hold them to account. f**k this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_T_Y Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 May just another US lackey, i am fucking sick of tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, doulikefish said: Its all very "weapons of mass destruction" Incidentally just over a year ago the last time the yanks chucked some ordanance into Syria it was to destroy assads chemical weapons facilities No, it wasn't. It was to attack the airfield the plane that dropped the weapon took off from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 No, it wasn't. It was to attack the airfield the plane that dropped the weapon took off from. My mistake it was to prevent further attackshttps://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Does the French equivalent of B&B - Crouton et Potage? - have anguished debates like this, where the government and the PM and cabinet get ridiculed, vilified and excoriated? Or do the French just shrug their shoulders, and get on with life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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