Gordon EF Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Frank conner said: We are where we are but I feel we are to big for this league out of the 34 years I've supported the rovers 25 or26 years have been spent in the top 2 division's. Nice spin on it there but "25 or 26 years in the top 2 divisions" is actually 22 in the second tier and only 3 in the top tier. Over that period, Raith have spent 3 times as many seasons in the 3rd tier as they have in the top division. Still not a bad record for a club of Raith's size but there will be players on the park on Sunday who weren't alive the last time Raith were in the Premier. So to try and label Rovers as a 'top 2 divisons' club is fairly disingenuous - more recent history has them solidly as a Championship/League One club. No point in arguing otherwise, Raith are the biggest club in League One because they get the biggest crowds. Their 'natural position', for all that it matters, is probably mid-to-lower Championship and significantly more likely to visit the seasides than the big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: Nice spin on it there but "25 or 26 years in the top 2 divisions" is actually 22 in the second tier and only 3 in the top tier. Over that period, Raith have spent 3 times as many seasons in the 3rd tier as they have in the top division. Still not a bad record for a club of Raith's size but there will be players on the park on Sunday who weren't alive the last time Raith were in the Premier. So to try and label Rovers as a 'top 2 divisons' club is fairly disingenuous - more recent history has them solidly as a Championship/League One club. No point in arguing otherwise, Raith are the biggest club in League One because they get the biggest crowds. Their 'natural position', for all that it matters, is probably mid-to-lower Championship and significantly more likely to visit the seasides than the big time. Good post. I've never seen Rovers in the top flight (started going to the occasional game the season after our relegation in the late 90s). Even still, we've had our fair share of highs over the last few years. I'd say we've definitely got the potential to push on. With that said, regardless of how well we've done over the last years our crowds have always stayed about the 1600 mark or so. It's frustrating to see other clubs from similar size towns draw in bigger crowds while we fail to bring people in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Scary Bear said: Grant, generally what happens when you go up to the Championship is you get rid of players who aren’t going to hack it and you sign some better players. Then you try to not get relegated or go bust, while assembling a decent squad. Then you possibly challenge for the league title or play-offs. Then, if you’re really unfortunate, your dumb f**k Board of inept blazers hires the likes of Gary F Locke and gets you relegated, ably assisted by a player you’ve loaned to a rival team in the same league, while selling all your decent youth players. Then you crash into the Seaside League and stay there for 2 or 3 seasons. Elton John wrote a song about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What matters just as much as crowds in these situations is how the club is run. Hamilton are a small club but incredibly well run, hence their Premiership status. You could say the same of a club like Brechin, currently ‘overachieving’ in terms of size. Crowd wise we are mid-Championship, off the field and commercially we are probably League One level. Hence our occasional periods at a lower level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank conner Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 There are probably junior clubs better run than ours Tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, roverthemoon said: Hamilton are a small club but incredibly well run, hence their Premiership status. Surprising when you see whos at the helm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 An East Fife fan, without a hint of irony, saying you can’t use your past glories as gloating points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuggfifer Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Surprising when you see whos at the helm And they lost £1m to scammers, that doesn't sound well run to me. But fair play to them, they have otherwise been run to a budget that can maintain their Prem status without sinking the club. Many clubs can learn from their experience. Are you watching Livingston? They are due a financial meltdown again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 8 hours ago, roverthemoon said: Hamilton are a small club but incredibly well run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 23 hours ago, Stevo Fife said: You are so fucking deluded its quite sad. You, Frank and SteaknGravy should hold hands on Sunday. A fine trio you make. You’ve got bitter since the horse bit the dust. 19 hours ago, King Kebab said: No, not that one. All that porn is rotting your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Fife Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Scary Bear said: You’ve got bitter since the horse bit the dust. And you've got ideas way above your station. Too big for the 1st my arse. Yer here for a reason. Same as the rest of us. The horse passed away on Saturday 26th August 2017. May he rest in piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 And you've got ideas way above your station. Too big for the 1st my arse. Yer here for a reason. Same as the rest of us.[emoji6] The horse passed away on Saturday 26th August 2017. May he rest in piece. You liar!!!It wasn't a he, you definitely told me it was a mare that day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Fife Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, King Kebab said: You liar!!! It wasn't a he, you definitely told me it was a mare that day!!! I see what you did there! Was certainly a mare that day. I've still not got over it and doubt I'll ever stop hating Young 10 years ago today eh? Good day that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I see what you did there! Was certainly a mare that day. I've still not got over it and doubt I'll ever stop hating Young:thumbsdown 10 years ago today eh? Good day that! It certainly was!!!Was that the last time you ran onto a football pitch Stevo??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Fife Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, King Kebab said: It certainly was!!! Was that the last time you ran onto a football pitch Stevo??? Probably! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank conner Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, Stevo Fife said: And you've got ideas way above your station. Too big for the 1st my arse. Yer here for a reason. Same as the rest of us. The horse passed away on Saturday 26th August 2017. May he rest in piece. Don' think the rovers being back in the championship is being way above our station East Fife in the championship is a pipe dream . You guys haven't been in the second tier for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Fife Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Frank conner said: Don' think the rovers being back in the championship is being way above our station East Fife in the championship is a pipe dream . You guys haven't been in the second tier for decades. Who mentioned East Fife in the Championship Frank? Not aware of any EF supporter alluding to that. Think all this lino big team nonsense is impacting your attention span. Keep up old bean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank conner Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 You seem a bit upset wi the rovers are u ok? Just think if u do beat us on sunday u can hold a tribute dinner for the team that finally beat the rovers every club has to have a goal I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo Fife Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Frank conner said: You seem a bit upset wi the rovers are u ok? Just think if u do beat us on sunday u can hold a tribute dinner for the team that finally beat the rovers every club has to have a goal I suppose. You need to work on your grammar Frank. There's a good lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said: An East Fife fan, without a hint of irony, saying you can’t use your past glories as gloating points. Not saying that at all. I'm just saying be accurate about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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