Bold Rover Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, th1stleandr0se said: I am some age. Definitely one of the oldest on here. And, really, I should be 11 days older. On a serious note though, Scotland seems to have changed calendars about 150 years before England and the Union of the Parliaments took place during that time, which means that some events are recorded as different dates by the two countries. Add to that the fact that the year number only changed on the 5th of April, not January 1st, and you have a really confusing scenario for anyone looking at the dates of old documents from that period. Might have helped with tax matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th1stleandr0se Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bold Rover said: Might have helped with tax matters. That's actually the reason for the tax date (with an adjustment of a day for some reason or another). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 57 minutes ago, th1stleandr0se said: That's actually the reason for the tax date (with an adjustment of a day for some reason or another). Originally New Year's Day was on 25th March. In order to ensure no loss of tax revenue, the Treasury decided that the taxation year which started on 25th March 1752 would be of the usual length (365 days) and would end on 4th April, the following tax year beginning on 5th April. The extra adjustment was because 1800 was a leap year in the Julian system but not in the Gregorian system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th1stleandr0se Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Originally New Year's Day was on 25th March. In order to ensure no loss of tax revenue, the Treasury decided that the taxation year which started on 25th March 1752 would be of the usual length (365 days) and would end on 4th April, the following tax year beginning on 5th April. The extra adjustment was because 1800 was a leap year in the Julian system but not in the Gregorian system. Any idea why 25th March was chosen to be New Year's Day? I can't think of any logical reason for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, th1stleandr0se said: Any idea why 25th March was chosen to be New Year's Day? I can't think of any logical reason for it. This doesn't answer your question but gives insight to the change of dates. https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/03/22/march-happy-colonial-new-year/L0MrkQc47SiUu1OHVJt1lI/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zen Archer said: This doesn't answer your question but gives insight to the change of dates. https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/03/22/march-happy-colonial-new-year/L0MrkQc47SiUu1OHVJt1lI/story.html Lady Day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, th1stleandr0se said: Any idea why 25th March was chosen to be New Year's Day? I can't think of any logical reason for it. In England, the "quarter days" were as follows: Lady Day (25 March) Midsummer Day (24 June) Michaelmas (29 September) Christmas (25 December) They were the four dates in each year on which servants were hired, school terms started, and rents were due. They fell on four religious festivals roughly three months apart and close to the two solstices and two equinoxes. As an aside, "April Fool" may also derive from changing the start of the year from April to January. One suggestion is that the people who celebrated the New Year on Jan 1st referred to those that persisted with celebrating the "Old New Year" as April Fools (this shouldn't be confused with those that still celebrate the Julian New Year on 12th January) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 On 06/03/2018 at 21:31, Fullerene said: Apparently it is most of them. Must be incredibly difficult to organize a birthday party and somebody told me it gets lots of snow in the winter time. you have been misled. It hardly ever snows in Antarctica. Timezones are a social construct invented by the victorian proto nazis to oppress the working classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, coprolite said: you have been misled. It hardly ever snows in Antarctica. Timezones are a social construct invented by the victorian proto nazis to oppress the working classes. So if you are working class and don't want to be oppressed then you should avoid Antarctica. Makes sense I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 44 minutes ago, Fullerene said: So if you are working class and don't want to be oppressed then you should avoid Antarctica. Makes sense I guess. Exactly. Lidl won't get permission to build a store there, which says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, coprolite said: Exactly. Lidl won't get permission to build a store there, which says it all. So Iceland have it all sown up, I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 10 hours ago, th1stleandr0se said: I am some age. Definitely one of the oldest on here. And, really, I should be 11 days older. On a serious note though, Scotland seems to have changed calendars about 150 years before England and the Union of the Parliaments took place during that time, which means that some events are recorded as different dates by the two countries. Add to that the fact that the year number only changed on the 5th of April, not January 1st, and you have a really confusing scenario for anyone looking at the dates of old documents from that period. So you're saying it makes that c**t David Starkey's life more difficult? Pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Not quite to the same extreme, but after leaving school I played college golf in America. My college was in Tennessee and the tournament we were playing that week was in Alabama. Only about a 4 hour drive. We were playing a practice round on the day we travelled and our tee time was 1.30. We were still travelling to the golf course on the bus at 1.40 yet made it to the course on time for our 1.30 tee time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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