HibeeJibee Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 One lady Aberdonian attacked Lloyd-George at the city's railway station, only to discover it was a case of mistaken identity and she'd actually brutalised a Baptist preacher. Assassination-wise 2 women did unsuccessfully attempt to throw London's chief magistrate, Sir Henry Curtis-Bennett, off the Margate cliffs . They were fun old times, it'd seem: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: One lady Aberdonian attacked Lloyd-George at the city's railway station, only to discover it was a case of mistaken identity and she'd actually brutalised a Baptist preacher. Assassination-wise 2 women did unsuccessfully attempt to throw London's chief magistrate, Sir Henry Curtis-Bennett, off the Margate cliffs . They were fun old times, it'd seem: Probably all happened at the times of their months........ Women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said: It's also the case that many suffragettes opposed universal suffrage, for working class men & women. Suffragettes didn't win the vote anyway: men & women in the trenches and factories did. The Bolsheviks won the vote, by making liberal, middle-class Britain shite itself at the prospect of something similar happening in a genuinely industrialised country at the end of the war. Co-opting the working class into the political system was the predictable response of a political class long comfortable with the idea of delivering reform rather than risking revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Fifes Elite Force said: Just read an article on the bbc website on a group of women who were opposed to giving women voting rights which was a bit bizarre. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42704341 No voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: One lady Aberdonian attacked Lloyd-George at the city's railway station, only to discover it was a case of mistaken identity and she'd actually brutalised a Baptist preacher. Assassination-wise 2 women did unsuccessfully attempt to throw London's chief magistrate, Sir Henry Curtis-Bennett, off the Margate cliffs . They were fun old times, it'd seem: That Baptist minister- did Lloyd George know his father....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 "..commenting on the latest Suffragette outrages, Prime Minister Asquith told the House that he would send a policeman 'to kick them in the pie'. Cheers were heard." The Aberdeen Depressing Journal, April 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Anyone having a pop at Suffragettes is a c**t. An imperfect organisation trying to do good in a very imperfect time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Anyone having a pop at Suffragettes is a c**t. An imperfect organisation trying to do good in a very imperfect time. The suffragettes arguably hindered the cause, as without the war the government could never be seen to be 'giving in to terrorists'. If someone could provide a link to Harry enfield's 'know your limits' sketch it'd be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, pandarilla said: The suffragettes arguably hindered the cause, as without the war the government could never be seen to be 'giving in to terrorists'. If someone could provide a link to Harry enfield's 'know your limits' sketch it'd be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Also worth remembering the votes for women didnt really happen until a decade after this as women under 30 and working class women were denied the vote until then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Also worth remembering the votes for women didnt really happen until a decade after this as women under 30 and working class women were denied the vote until then Indeed. Women were basically an add on to the 1918 act. They govt had to ensure the soldiers would not be returning from the war without the vote and that's what this act was mainly about. Symbolic though, and the equal status was obviously inevitable after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09r8jvr/hulls-headscarf-heroes I thought this was pretty interesting, if angry Hullensian fisherwummin are your cup of tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, pandarilla said: The suffragettes arguably hindered the cause, as without the war the government could never be seen to be 'giving in to terrorists'. If someone could provide a link to Harry enfield's 'know your limits' sketch it'd be much appreciated. I’m more interested in the motivated rebellion rather than the outcome. Even today acceptance is too widespread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, pandarilla said: Indeed. Women were basically an add on to the 1918 act. They govt had to ensure the soldiers would not be returning from the war without the vote and that's what this act was mainly about. Symbolic though, and the equal status was obviously inevitable after this. Absolutely,but the way they are going on today you would think the vote was given to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 It's a minor point but the coverage today has often said things like "and later in the year women cast votes for the first time in British history". This is not actually true either - they'd been able to vote in local government elections since the mid-1800s (plus some had also voted before the Great Reform Act in 1832, IIRC). As I mentioned earlier there was a substantial element of the suffragette movement who were opposed to universal suffrage and were demanding equity with men on the basis of existing arrangements: for the right of upper-class and middle-class women to vote in Westminister elections. No doubt in some cases this was, at least in part, to make it seem less 'controversial'; but many others would've agreed with their male counterparts against working class suffrage. Also as a piece of trivia the first instance of universal equitable suffrage actually occurred before 1918 or 1928. In the border polls called in 1915-16 under measures for the disestablishment of the Church in Wales, everyone 21+ was enfranchised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 16 hours ago, pandarilla said: The suffragettes arguably hindered the cause, as without the war the government could never be seen to be 'giving in to terrorists'. If someone could provide a link to Harry enfield's 'know your limits' sketch it'd be much appreciated. It's a piece of piss to ignore peaceful resistance as well though. vT's right in that it was arguably even just the threat of violent revolution that made the British establishment shit the bed. They could've happily went on ignoring people marching peacefully up and down Westminster, as they have throughout history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 20 hours ago, Peppino Impastato said: No voters exactly what popped into my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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