Jason King Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: No taking sides now. Aye, but is that a Catholic side or a protestant side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 There is no "charm offensive" from the Orange Order, unless they're offering to harvest their Members organs for good right minded people in society.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereismillar Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Brother Blades said: normal Protestants, 90 + % of orange order members and hangers on have no interest in religion / Christianity, their involvement mainly stems from upbringing and the team they support the paranoid obsession against catholicism is hilarious considering the threat from extreme islamic groups, this pales into insignificance the supposed catholic "threat" and if they want to "charm" the public then they have quite a task ahead of them considering the behaviour of their followers on marches , an impossible task. they are so far removed from real christian organisations that they are out of sight, the threat which they perceive from catholicism is long gone in this secular society in which we now live in the orange order is a dinosaur which has for decades outlived its true although dubious purpose. my opinion is the same or similar to most outsiders of whom i know they just don't seem to get it or more likely don't want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Finch road said: Blast furnace is good, maybe a few landmines, spikes and tigers dotted around for any stragglers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 If they brought back "Sash Gordon", I might be tempted to sign up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 They'll need to do a LOT of charming after that time they went rampaging through Rohan and attacked Helms Deep and Minas Tirith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybhoy Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: Other than the parades, what does the Orange Order do? They hate catholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: The Torch says “exotic visitors” will come from countries including Ghana, Togo, the USA, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. I had to google this as I didn't realize that they were still active here. I thought they had died out in the 60's and 70's but they apparently still have a parade in Toronto every year, watched by literally tens of people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifes Elite Force Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Was there not some sort of documentary on the orange order a number of years ago and they were looking to reform and change their image? It obviously didn't happen. I suppose loads of religious organisations have had murky pasts and managed to reform themselves to an extent, Im quite sceptical the OO can be one of those, it seems just to be purely based on triumphalism and to an extent politics more than actual Protestantism to me (I suppose 300 years ago politics and religion were more linked than they are now). TBH let them get on with it, its not any skin off my nose. I just get on with life without them really be in any way relevant. They also claim its a fraternity, and you do have other religious fraternities kicking around too. Edit to add - Was there not also some pish about having an orange festival a few years back too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 What with the gays getting less hassle these days, that they have to add a letter to LGB every few months to include a new sub group and keep the numbers up. I suggest an Orange/Pride merger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: What with the gays getting less hassle these days, that they have to add a letter to LGB every few months to include a new sub group and keep the numbers up. I suggest an Orange/Pride merger. Stay with the LGBTO, SAY IT AGAIN, the LGBTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 28 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Stay with the LGBTO, SAY IT AGAIN, the LGBTO. Careful now, we'll have the SJW's on here quicker than a tramp on chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, chomp my root said: Careful now, we'll have the SJW's on here quicker than a tramp on chips. There's more than one of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Zen Archer said: I was thinking more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Fifes Elite Force said: Edit to add - Was there not also some pish about having an orange festival a few years back too? @RedRob72 went to the OrangeFest in George Square and had a whale of a time with everyone else who shares his culture and heritage, IIRC. He'll fill us in with more details, I'm sure. 1 hour ago, Fifes Elite Force said: Was there not some sort of documentary on the orange order a number of years ago and they were looking to reform and change their image? It obviously didn't happen. I'd watch that - it'd be interesting to know what their plans are - is embracing the Catholic community part of it? Reminds me of a documentary about the Klan that was on the telly about twenty years ago. Some chapter had thrown away all the discrimination stuff and just seemed to like an excuse to light up a big cross and have a barbeque. They spoke extensively to the Grand Wizard (or whatever) and he expressed surprise that only one black guy had joined up to the new touchy-feely New Klux Klan they had going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifes Elite Force Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: Reminds me of a documentary about the Klan that was on the telly about twenty years ago. Some chapter had thrown away all the discrimination stuff and just seemed to like an excuse to light up a big cross and have a barbeque. They spoke extensively to the Grand Wizard (or whatever) and he expressed surprise that only one black guy had joined up to the new touchy-feely New Klux Klan they had going Haha aye it was sort of the same. I think they had elected some new head honcho of the order who wanted to reform it a bit in the same way. It was years ago now (might be over a decade at least) and on the bbc or another council channel, I might try and find it. If I remember rightly they were thinking about allowing members to enter a chapel for weddings etc (O the humanity) as part of these major reforms. Like I said its a along time ago so my memory of it is not the best so I would need to try and dig it out from somewhere, hopefully its on youtube. In terms of the order itself it could easily try to promote Protestantism, talk about the reformation and why they believe it happened, devine right of kings, parliamentary democracy and all sorts of stuff that is a big part of our history (as a country and on the islands as a whole and even Europe)...however they seem to be pretty much bigots that just want to march about a battle centuries ago and hating Catholics mostly or at least the perception I have of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 An indoor event you say? ETA - is that Derek Johnstone at the start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereismillar Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Zen Archer said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Stay with the LGBTO, SAY IT AGAIN, the LGBTO. They want you! They want you! They want you as the new 5th flute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unleash The Nade Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Credit where it’s due , they are trying ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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