CamaroSaint Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, paisleysaints said: I noticed this with every corner he took at the home end away from the linesman, I've noticed this a lot in several different games recently - the linsemen/ref don't seem to be enforcing this any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleysaints Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, CamaroSaint said: I've noticed this a lot in several different games recently - the linsemen/ref don't seem to be enforcing this any more I've seen alot of players pushing the line boundaries, but Flynn just went a whole few yards extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I suppose in a way it's cheating but if the officials aren't going to enforce the rules then any player would take any kind of advantage they could even if it was just a small one like that. Though tbf to thw officials it would be hard for them to see it at that corner unless the ref got up close which isn't going to happen on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamaroSaint Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 There should be a linesman right on it. I wonder if it's a conscious decision to be more relaxed about it - they used to enforce it really strictly, not even allowing a couple of inches when the wind blew the ball out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, CamaroSaint said: There should be a linesman right on it. I wonder if it's a conscious decision to be more relaxed about it - they used to enforce it really strictly, not even allowing a couple of inches when the wind blew the ball out of position. No there shouldnt. Thats why he does it and usually gets away with it. The nature of the assistant role is they stand at the goalkeeper's left hand corner flag at corners. If the corner is bring taken from the other side the linesman in that half cant possibly tell if its in the arc or not. If its miles out the one in the other half should notice I suppose but he is generally over 50 yards away and watching across the pitch instead. The referee will be on the edge of the box at corners. Cheating like that will only be picked up if either the crowd or the opposing team make a song and dance about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamaroSaint Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, CamaroSaint said: There should be a linesman right on it 50% of the time (averaged over the course of the season) Is that better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weebud Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Skyline Drifter said: No there shouldnt. Thats why he does it and usually gets away with it. The nature of the assistant role is they stand at the goalkeeper's left hand corner flag at corners. If the corner is bring taken from the other side the linesman in that half cant possibly tell if its in the arc or not. If its miles out the one in the other half should notice I suppose but he is generally over 50 yards away and watching across the pitch instead. The referee will be on the edge of the box at corners. Cheating like that will only be picked up if either the crowd or the opposing team make a song and dance about it. It's all pretty similar to the yards (often loads) stolen at throw-ins which very often happens right beside the linesman. They never really seem to deal with foul throws all that often either....both things drive me to distraction but it's how it is I suppose!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: No there shouldnt. Thats why he does it and usually gets away with it. The nature of the assistant role is they stand at the goalkeeper's left hand corner flag at corners. If the corner is bring taken from the other side the linesman in that half cant possibly tell if its in the arc or not. If its miles out the one in the other half should notice I suppose but he is generally over 50 yards away and watching across the pitch instead. The referee will be on the edge of the box at corners. Cheating like that will only be picked up if either the crowd or the opposing team make a song and dance about it. I sit in W3, further away than the linesman at that side, and with a poorer view (more elevated, but worse angle and further away)... and he was clearly out of the legal area most of the time. At one point it really must have been two feet. He then dragged it back - to about a foot. Loads of players do it, but never seen anyone steal so much. Can't see it gives a big advantage, so he should stop doing it in case we lose a corner over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Officials running the lines are one of the most infuriating things going. It seems they'll give a decision, rightly or wrongly, based on a whim or worse still not give an obvious decision right in front of them at all; presumably under the assumption that is the ref's job, then they'll flag some 30 metres away from an incident as if they are the sole arbiter on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessieField Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Any highlights anywhere? Apart from the amateur attempts from the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 44 minutes ago, JessieField said: Any highlights anywhere? Apart from the amateur attempts from the crowd. There are goals highlights on YouTube, not sure what use they'd be for a Queens fan though... other than to laugh at Rankin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessieField Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Have you got a link? What heading are they under? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, JessieField said: Have you got a link? What heading are they under? Thanks They are on the official St Mirren you tube channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, JessieField said: Have you got a link? What heading are they under? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 The first one, though a fine strike, was a bit central for me and should have been saveable. The corner for the second was taken from a ridiculous place. Rather than feeling a sense of injustice over it though, it just irritates me. St Mirren gained no direct advantage from it, so I really don't mind that it preceded a goal. It just bugs me that players attempt such petty and pointless acts of pushing at boundaries. It's infantile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: The first one, though a fine strike, was a bit central for me and should have been saveable. Seriously? "A bit central"? It hit the inside side netting about a foot from the top corner. Martin hadnt an earthly. The defensive lapse was firstly that Smith was all alone and secondly nobody closing down the shot quickly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I guess it was because St Mirren offered him a contract first. There was about a week between the day he was meant to sign and the day he did actually sign.It just happened to coincide with the week that Dundee were begging for a word with Jack about him working for them. So I'm not sure it was as simple as him going with the first contract offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fony Titz Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I sit in W3, further away than the linesman at that side, and with a poorer view (more elevated, but worse angle and further away)... and he was clearly out of the legal area most of the time. At one point it really must have been two feet. He then dragged it back - to about a foot. Loads of players do it, but never seen anyone steal so much. Can't see it gives a big advantage, so he should stop doing it in case we lose a corner over it. It can offer a different angle I suppose. Is the chance of a goal worth the risk of losing a corner? Probably. Though in the spirit of good sportsmanship it really shouldn't be difficult for the ref to stamp it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Fony Titz said: Is the chance of a goal worth the risk of losing a corner? Probably. Is the chance of a goal enhanced at all by doing It? Probably not. It's daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: Seriously? "A bit central"? It hit the inside side netting about a foot from the top corner. Martin hadnt an earthly. The defensive lapse was firstly that Smith was all alone and secondly nobody closing down the shot quickly enough. It doesn't hit the side netting at all - that's simply not true. It very much hits the back of the net, well in from the side and at a good height for the goalkeeper. I'm not claiming it was goalkeeping howler, but I'm not going to concede that it was in the postage stamp either, because according to these pictures, it clearly wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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