hk blues Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Do they go and live on a farm with all the other condemned men & women? Condemned people and lawfully killed people couldn't be together - one group is dead, the other not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, hk blues said: It's a fair point. But they don't have the death penalty here in the Philippines so the EJKs that go on don't really contribute to the debate we're having here. In fact, if they did it might actually have offered those being murdered a chance of a fair trial. Eh? The State is allowing the police to go around murdering people because they're a bit squeamish about introducing a death penalty? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equalizer Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) On 12/01/2018 at 03:05, hk blues said: Kinda hard to avoid repeating something in order to put someone right on their mistake. Don't put words in my mouth - that's not what I said. Killing is never right, then again Capital Punishment isn't killing 4 hours ago, hk blues said: Condemned people and lawfully killed people couldn't be together - one group is dead, the other not. If I had the time and inclination I would point out your many other contradictions and descent into semantics. I don't so I will just say this, you have been outed as a fool with zero grasp of the subject matter and are bringing the thread down with your inane pish. That's quite an achievement on P&B General Nonsense. Kudos. Edited January 14, 2018 by The Equalizer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resk Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The perfect example of why any right minded government wouldn't entertain this.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lesley_Molseed Pretty interesting that. I'm ashamed to say I had never heard of this case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 If I had the time and inclination I would point out your many other contradictions and descent into semantics. I don't so I will just say this, you have been outed as a fool with zero grasp of the subject matter and are bringing the thread down with your inane pish. That's quite an achievement on P&B General Nonsense. Kudos. Strange post. You cannot see the difference between the terms 'killing' and 'lawfull killing', yet I am the fool? I'd be interested to hear of even one contradiction in my posts on this topic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Eh? The State is allowing the police to go around murdering people because they're a bit squeamish about introducing a death penalty? But that's not what I said. I was simply making an observation, not stating the State's position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 You can’t go around killing people for killing people, we’re supposed to be a civilised country that's right.We only kill Afghans and Iraqis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, coprolite said: that's right. We only kill Afghans and Iraqis. Quite, it’s a fucking shameful state of affairs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 10 hours ago, hk blues said: Strange post. You cannot see the difference between the terms 'killing' and 'lawfull killing', yet I am the fool? I'd be interested to hear of even one contradiction in my posts on this topic. You weren't arguing there was a difference, you were arguing that lawful killing isn't killing. Considering that lawful killing and your bog standard, run of the mill killing has the same end result of a dead person, it really shouldn't be difficult to grasp why people think you're a moron here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, The Moonster said: You weren't arguing there was a difference, you were arguing that lawful killing isn't killing. Considering that lawful killing and your bog standard, run of the mill killing has the same end result of a dead person, it really shouldn't be difficult to grasp why people think you're a moron here. So now you are telling me what I meant? Lawful killing isn't killing - they are different words and different meanings. So you are saying that if the end result is the same, the act that created the end result must also be the same? So murder = killing in your definition? Clearly, you are wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, hk blues said: So now you are telling me what I meant? Lawful killing isn't killing - they are different words and different meanings. So you are saying that if the end result is the same, the act that created the end result must also be the same? So murder = killing in your definition? Clearly, you are wrong. I've already laid out my opinion, if you want to twist what I've said to suit your hilariously boring point then wire in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 "Lawful killing isn't killing".Fucking Hell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bully Wee Villa said: "Lawful killing isn't killing". Fucking Hell. He's posted it about 15 times now and still doesn't see the stupidness of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Moonster said: I've already laid out my opinion, if you want to twist what I've said to suit your hilariously boring point then wire in. Giving up when you cannot defend your argument is what you really meant to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: "Lawful killing isn't killing". Fucking Hell. The word lawful is called a "qualifier" in the language. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Moonster said: He's posted it about 15 times now and still doesn't see the stupidness of it. see above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 You're an idiot. Note that I haven't put a "qualifier" in that sentence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, hk blues said: Giving up when you cannot defend your argument is what you really meant to say. I have no interest in repeating myself. Claim victory if you want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: You're an idiot. Note that I haven't put a "qualifier" in that sentence. If you want to make a constructive point go ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Lawful killing is killing. Unlawful killing is killing. Hope that's clear. That's not a moral or legal opinion, it's just the way language works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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