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4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

The man's 99% chance a total c**t, and everyone agrees. Not much of a topic. I thought the main sticking block in negotiations was the Irish language issue. Have I been misled by the anti Unionist MSM? Genuine question from an ignorant onlooker.

The goalposts seem to keep moving as regards the stumbling block and I almost suspect SF would be happy with the re-imposition of direct rule so that they would have a ready made scapegoat.

There is a lot more to it than the third most widely spoken language in NI.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/31/arlene-foster-irish-language-union-dup

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/sinn-féin-has-never-wanted-an-irish-language-act-1.3144266

Irish received official recognition in Northern Ireland, as well as protection and funding, under the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, with reference to the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages, so they are inventing gripes to avoid governance and responsibility IMO. I would certainly support the opportunity for those who want to learn Irish to do so, but would prefer BOTH main parties to concentrate on getting back to work and focusing on housing, the NHS and jobs. Too many arseholes in power on both sides, perpetuating grievance politics and petty disputes.

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Too many arseholes in power on both sides, perpetuating grievance politics and petty disputes.


Absolutely this, but I would love to see a 32 county united Ireland. It's the way it should be.

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6 minutes ago, Audaces Fortuna Juvat said:

The goalposts seem to keep moving as regards the stumbling block and I almost suspect SF would be happy with the re-imposition of direct rule so that they would have a ready made scapegoat.

There is a lot more to it than the third most widely spoken language in NI.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/31/arlene-foster-irish-language-union-dup

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/sinn-féin-has-never-wanted-an-irish-language-act-1.3144266

Irish received official recognition in Northern Ireland, as well as protection and funding, under the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, with reference to the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages, so they are inventing gripes to avoid governance and responsibility IMO. I would certainly support the opportunity for those who want to learn Irish to do so, but would prefer BOTH main parties to concentrate on getting back to work and focusing on housing, the NHS and jobs. Too many arseholes in power on both sides, perpetuating grievance politics and petty disputes.

I think you're right - the cries of outrage (in  English), the handwringing, the wailing, the gnashing of teeth, the spittle flecked statements. It would be spectacular.

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3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

 

 


Absolutely this, but I would love to see a 32 county united Ireland. It's the way it should be.

 

No it's not, that's your opinion of the way it should be. :thumsup2

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23 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

 


Irelands one country mate. It's ridiculous that it's separated.

 

That does lead to the inevitable Great Britain would then be one country debate. Is it ridiculous that it should be separated?

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That does lead to the inevitable Great Britain would then be one country debate. Is it ridiculous that it should be separated?


Great Britain is a geographical reference when attached to the north of little Britain becomes a Union. Ireland is a country, as is Scotland

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20 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

 


Great Britain is a geographical reference when attached to the north of little Britain becomes a Union. Ireland is a country, as is Scotland

 

Shouldn't Northern Ireland have the right to self determination if the majority wish it?

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Great Britain is a geographical reference when attached to the north of little Britain becomes a Union. Ireland is a country, as is Scotland
Can open........worms everywhere

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11 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

 


Of course

 

And if the determination they make is that they'd rather stay within the UK?

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He should be suspended from Sinn Féin, if he hasn't already been, and then most likely expelled. Such a needlessly antagonistic and brainless thing to do. 

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And if the determination they make is that they'd rather stay within the UK?


Not sure I understand your point tbh. You asked whether NI has right to self determination.. I said of course. Staying in UK is not self determination in that context. NI will never vote to be independent so 2 choices.... 1) stay in UK or 2) 32 county republic. I favour option 2, which I would vote for in event of an all Ireland referendum.

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9 hours ago, DrewDon said:

He should be suspended from Sinn Féin, if he hasn't already been, and then most likely expelled. Such a needlessly antagonistic and brainless thing to do. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42598314

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"Mr McElduff has apologised and said he did not realise there could be a possible link between the bread brand and anniversary." :lol::lol:

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23 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

I always took him as a bit of a clown -"playing the class clown", as the SDLP MLA is quoted in the article - but he's obviously a horrible little shit on a par with Gerry Kelly and others.

Harsh

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Nobody was buying the lame apology so now his fellow balaclava wearers belatedly throw him under the bus. Guess he'll be standing as an Independent Republican candidate next time around. 

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