peasy23 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Robert Maxwell? Hope they're not meeting on a boat [emoji4] As usual, some people go overboard with the abuse on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig O'Lea Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/14/2017 at 19:01, garrellburn said: A fantastic selection? Who made the selection? Were clubs asked to nomimate a committee member? Yes, all clubs in the region had the opportunity to put someone forward for this working group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Playing the Scottish cup in November, December, January is the problem, maybe supporters should be asking clubs committee to raise a proposal at sjfa AGM regarding this , plenty time to come up with workable solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Albert Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 OOPS sorry Robert Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrellburn Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 44 minutes ago, Brig O'Lea said: Yes, all clubs in the region had the opportunity to put someone forward for this working group. My comments were written with tongue very much in cheek, I do know several of the committee men and believe that they will come up with a sensible decision. And I have called the GS a dinosaur to his face at a meeting, i even received a note from the then treasurer congratulating me for stating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry's Corner Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 No need for this committee. There are enough professional aficionados on here to make the juniors better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig O'Lea Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 09:59, garrellburn said: My comments were written with tongue very much in cheek, I do know several of the committee men and believe that they will come up with a sensible decision. And I have called the GS a dinosaur to his face at a meeting, i even received a note from the then treasurer congratulating me for stating it. I wasn't to know that mate, just answering what seemed like a straightforward question about whether clubs were asked to nominate a rep, which they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRICEY Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Would like to see the sectional league cup retained,but better organised.Two competitions of 32,meaning three group games played over one week.Play the semi finals at a neutral venue under the lights a few weeks into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 It's the West Region there is no Ayrshire no Central. Finally got rid of District Leagues time for District Cups to go as well. There are junior clubs considering moving to the pyramid yet we have some who want to retain a local kick about tournament where you can play trialists to get yourself ready for the real stuff to come lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retired Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Surely now with the set up FINALLY Killing off the Ayrshire & Central divisions time to put the WOS cup back where it belongs ( aka Whyte & Mackay days). This was second only to the Scottish in its hey day and should return to that status ahead of District and league cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlMarx Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 54 minutes ago, retired said: Surely now with the set up FINALLY Killing off the Ayrshire & Central divisions time to put the WOS cup back where it belongs ( aka Whyte & Mackay days). This was second only to the Scottish in its hey day and should return to that status ahead of District and league cups. I don't think the West will ever regain how it was in its heyday as it is now effectively a League Cup. Before you looked forward to the chance to pit your wits against the best of the Central League but now we play these teams all the time in the league. I was always of the mind to keep all the cups but have been won over with the doing away of the Sectional Cup but retaining the Ayrshire Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellyboy Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 13 hours ago, qwerty said: Playing the Scottish cup in November, December, January is the problem, maybe supporters should be asking clubs committee to raise a proposal at sjfa AGM regarding this , plenty time to come up with workable solution. Erm end of Aug/Sep/Oct then Feb/Mar/Apr/May would be a great idea? Doesn't need clubs to propose this as already been moved a month by SJFA Committee. Whilst we are at it draw a Round in advance it makes sense. I wont even mention the play to a finish over 90 mins then penalties just incase that causes the Junior Secretaries to be enabled to issue a season long fixture list. I will be the Antichrist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshire_nomad Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Matt Bamford (President)Scott Robertson (General Secretary)John Boal (Beith, Super Premier)Gordon Anderson (Maryhill, Super First)John Dalton (Whitletts Victoria, Ayrshire District)Robert Watson (Wishaw, Central First)Peter Higgins (Royal Albert, Central Second) Scot rubertson LolGood luck boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky burgh Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I did put in a proposal , it was to scrap the ardgath and central sectional cups and replace it with a west region sectional league cup , as we have 64 clubs the idea was to split the teams into 8 regional sections Of 8 than from each section have a draw and from each 8 draw 2 sections of 4 meaning 3 games per section then the 2 winners play each other to decide who goes into the quarter finals ,second year reverse the fixtures and when we get to every 3rd year we then redraw the sections , this would mean that the competition would be much better , this would mean a maximum of 7 fixtures for the finalists. this proposal will be put to the delegates at the west region A.G.M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRICEY Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 A good suggestion,not a million miles from my own.Hopefully any cup that is retained will be drawn on a grid system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennie Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, ricky burgh said: I did put in a proposal , it was to scrap the ardgath and central sectional cups and replace it with a west region sectional league cup , as we have 64 clubs the idea was to split the teams into 8 regional sections Of 8 than from each section have a draw and from each 8 draw 2 sections of 4 meaning 3 games per section then the 2 winners play each other to decide who goes into the quarter finals ,second year reverse the fixtures and when we get to every 3rd year we then redraw the sections , this would mean that the competition would be much better , this would mean a maximum of 7 fixtures for the finalists. this proposal will be put to the delegates at the west region A.G.M Ricky, I do hope you pursue this idea, it deserves consideration. As you know, from the conversation we had last season at Bellshill, I had the same idea and if I had been successful in my bid, I would have pushed for this too. I did actually put the idea to 2 others last January and those 2 are now on the aforementioned 'Cup Committee' so hopefully it will be discussed by them. I also endorsed your proposal in my application letter. I've re-posted and expanded on the idea here. A) Combine both Ayrshire and Central cup competitions into one. B) The management committee organise all 64 clubs into 8 Sections, using geography and travel as guidelines. C) Teams in each section are numbered 1 through to 8. D) A draw is made at the AGM to split each section into 2 groups. E) These teams play each other once only. This results in 2 teams having 2 home/1 away and 2 teams with 1 home/2 away games. These groups remain in place for 2 seasons to allow a reversal of these fixtures. F) The group winners are placed in a draw (again this could be pre-drawn at the AGM) and it is drawn through to the final. G) Both finalists would play 7 games. H) After 2 seasons The groups are redrawn from the same sections and remain in place again for another 2 seasons. I) This maintains the Sectional League aspect which allows full use of trialists during the opening 3 games. J) The season could start on the Saturday with Game 1, Game 2 would be on the Monday with Game 3 on the Wednesday. This would mean the Sectional League would be over in a week allowing for League fixtures to start on the 2nd Saturday of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Currently the winners of the Central Sectional League Cup play 6 matches in the tournament. This proposal gives 7 matches. Unless you mean the scrapping of the end of season League Cups as well then this proposal actually means more games on top of the extra league games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lang Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Currently the winners of the Central Sectional League Cup play 6 matches in the tournament. This proposal gives 7 matches. Unless you mean the scrapping of the end of season League Cups as well then this proposal actually means more games on top of the extra league games. You can't count,7 games 4sectional, then quarter,semi and final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Maybe they could do the Junior Cup draw whilst they're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Knowing John Dalton as well as i do, iv every faith they will come up with a decent solution regarding the cups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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