Granny Danger Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said: I don't think anyone's overplaying it to be honest. It was thoroughly bizarre and people are saying so on a thread dedicated to the match on a football website. Were we harping on about it in a discussion devoted to poverty, starvation or disease, that might indeed seem somewhat trivial and inappropriate. But we're not. People just need to be a wee bit more laid back like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: There’s folk starving in the world, there’s folk that have debilitating diseases, there’s folk in this country in 2017 living in abject poverty. Stop fucking moaning because a football game was abandoned at half time. There are other websites for these heart-rending appeals. Don’t assume that people who discuss football matters on a football board don’t care / give to charities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The statement on our OS is also distancing the club from the decision and how it was reached. My opinion for what it's worth is that every attempt should be made to finish a game after it has started. Only in very extreme circumstances should an abandonment take place. I don't honestly think that by any stretch of imagination the conditions today warranted the Ref's decision.Let's be clear he got away with it because it was 0-0. If either side had been winning at HT there would have been an outcry and I don't think Thomson would have taken it any further. In reality though the HT score should make no difference - it is either dangerous and unplayable or it isn't.There are some abandonments which are glaringly obvious - this wasn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I think SD may be right in suggesting that the players who spoke to him were seeking clemency for sliding into challenges. I don’t believe that the pitch was a) any worse at HT than at the start b) any worse than many a game there played to a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeredbook Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There’s folk starving in the world, there’s folk that have debilitating diseases, there’s folk in this country in 2017 living in abject poverty. Stop fucking moaning because a football game was abandoned at half time. There is pot noodle available to survive . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcutta Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 If that pitch was unplayable, then at the first drop of rain any match on a grass pitch should be immediately postponed. Oh wait, the ground gets hard when it's dry., that's no good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 hours ago, stumigoo said: I really don't know. I would assume that having 22 players and a referee using the pitch for 45 minutes (plus the pre-match warm up) would suitably wear down the pitch and that if anything the surface would improve, not deteriorate. The 4G pitch at St Andrews (which Utd train on) is the same (or very similar) surface to the one at Palmerston and I've played on that one in sub zero conditions no bother. Bizzare decision from Craig Thomson FWIW it also seems that some players are bemused as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skint Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Just throwing it out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Thomson's explanation doesn't stack up. There was no appreciable drop in temperature between 3 and 4. I'm wondering if the Glasgow referees have a night out tonight, and Thomson din't want to arrive late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessieField Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 On 13/12/2017 at 13:14, Granny Danger said: United got a lucky break this afternoon, Queens were about to unleash hell in the second half and tear them apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Fundesliga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Big Merc get you there and back Danger, no probs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 We'll be charging for the replay, probably not full price but we'll be charging. Mid-week under lights for the full duration with before and after lighting, we are a business after all with Billy in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young gun Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Conspiracy anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 hour ago, calcutta said: If that pitch was unplayable, then at the first drop of rain any match on a grass pitch should be immediately postponed. Oh wait, the ground gets hard when it's dry., that's no good either. This. Was the pitch in perfect condition? No. Neither was Tannadice when we went up there last January after it survived a mid morning pitch inspection though. Pitches rarely are perfect at this time of year, even plastic ones. It was a little slippy but no more so than if it had a fairly decent rain shower during it. Hell up to about the end of September we usually water it to make it slicker! However, it was not by any stretch of the imagination "frozen". Anyone who walked on it after the game was finished will confirm that the crumb was freely moving. A 3G pitch generally won't freeze until it gets to about -4C and we were still 3C when it was abandoned. 15 miles away Annan started and finished an SPFL match on an older plastic surface. United had played some terrific fast flowing football on it, especially in the 15 minutes or so before the break and appeared to be coping just fine. Darren Brownlie got himself booked for a foul on Robson (I think) not long before the interval that the United players were pretty annoyed about and I don't know if that challenge was one where he said he'd slipped? That might have been a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa_sheet Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Current temperatures at Collin - air minus 1.6C road surface minus 2.6C Current temperatures at Gretna Green (closer to Solway Firth) air minus 3C road surface minus 3.3C. Ok, but we’re talking about 4pm here......what were the air/Road/Gretna/Collin temperatures then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mustafa_sheet said: Ok, but we’re talking about 4pm here......what were the air/Road/Gretna/Collin temperatures then? I didn’t check then. But the point is that it can be colder closer to the Solway than it is further away from it. Your point was that Annan is milder because it is closer to the Solway and, as those figures illustrated, that isn’t always the case. Far more likely that the temperatures in Dumfries and Annan were broadly similar. Note also that Carlisle’s game was completed on a grass pitch. And Accies game, further north and not closer to any coast, was completed on a plastic one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 After today I think every home game is under threat until the end of February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Mustafa_sheet said: Ok, but we’re talking about 4pm here......what were the air/Road/Gretna/Collin temperatures then? Temperature at Palmerston at 4 was plus 2, according to thermometer in my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tam said: After today I think every home game is under threat until the end of February. Craig Thomson won't be refereeing all the games though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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