Mantis Toboggan Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Going by this, if we do by some miracle reach Euro 2020 we'll be drawn in the same group as England Typical that if we get to this tournament we won't even leave the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Maybe they can let us qualify as hosts? Would be pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, BullyweeClyde said: Going by this, if we do by some miracle reach Euro 2020 we'll be drawn in the same group as England Typical that if we get to this tournament we won't even leave the UK Oh dear ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Going by this, if we do by some miracle reach Euro 2020 we'll be drawn in the same group as England Typical that if we get to this tournament we won't even leave the UK If that bit at the top is right then it seems a bit bizarre to have the groups done already like that and not let the draw happen (or at least wait til seedings are announced for the final tournament). It's not as if the venues are close together in all the cases and UEFA don't care about the fans going to a game so it seems a bit rubbish. As is giving the extra games from Brussels (Eurostadium not being built potentially because a local council doesn't want to get rid of a road between 2 car parks at the existing Heysel and Anderlecht no longer want a part of it) to Wembley when they already have both semis and the final. Probably should have been Cardiff or Stockholm or something since it's meant to allow the wee nations a chance to host as well as being to celebrate the anniversary of the first tournament (or whatever bullshit reason they used when they announced it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 England to win the tournament whilst playing 5/7 games at Wembley. It'll be like Euro 96 for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanTyneArmy Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 What a joke from UEFA. Italy, Germany, England, Spain and Holland all guaranteed not to play each other in the group stages (provided they qualify - which the definitely will when you look at how many 2nd chances the national league system will give the big teams). Hard luck to the likes of Portugal, France, Belgium, Swiss and Poland who have all accrued good world rankings but will still get a tough group regardless.Group seeding should principally be on ranking not who UEFA and their commercial partners want to progress to later stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Some of the geographic combinations are bizarre. Would you not have paired up Amsterdam & Brussels (being the hosts before London got 'awarded' their games); Dublin & Glasgow; Munich & Copenhagen; Budapest & Bucharest; Rome & Bilbao; St Petersburg & Baku?! So basically if we qualify for Euro 2020 we're bound to end-up in the same group as England, and would play them at Wembley and 2 others at Hampden. I suppose we'd be happy just to have qualified for the first time in 22yrs but it'd still be a bit of a downer. Presumably there'd be a good chance of finishing 2nd/3rd in group, qualifying to knockouts but not being the Hampden tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Some of the geographic combinations are bizarre. Would you not have paired up Amsterdam & Brussels (being the hosts before London got 'awarded' their games); Dublin & Glasgow; Munich & Copenhagen; Budapest & Bucharest; Rome & Bilbao; St Petersburg & Baku?! So basically if we qualify for Euro 2020 we're bound to end-up in the same group as England, and would play them at Wembley and 2 others at Hampden. I suppose we'd be happy just to have qualified for the first time in 22yrs but it'd still be a bit of a downer. Presumably there'd be a good chance of finishing 2nd/3rd in group, qualifying to knockouts but not being the Hampden tie? It was based on geography and "sporting strength" apparently. I'd just be happy if we got there tbh. Hampden/Glasgow would be rocking for a Scotland major tournament game and a trip down to Wembley would be a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, lubo_blaha said: It was based on geography and "sporting strength" apparently. I'd just be happy if we got there tbh. Hampden/Glasgow would be rocking for a Scotland major tournament game and a trip down to Wembley would be a laugh. Will be massive ticket scramble for that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 And for the final, when we get there too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 07/12/2017 at 22:59, lubo_blaha said: It was based on geography and "sporting strength" apparently. I'd just be happy if we got there tbh. Hampden/Glasgow would be rocking for a Scotland major tournament game and a trip down to Wembley would be a laugh. sporting strength?uh-hu,thatll be up there with the "sporting merit" pish the Italians used to promote bust teams back to serie a asap.give it a few years and certain teams will get automatic places at tournaments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 sporting strength?uh-hu,thatll be up there with the "sporting merit" pish the Italians used to promote bust teams back to serie a asap.give it a few years and certain teams will get automatic places at tournaments It’s no different to usual seeding. It’s to avoid having one group with Spain and Germany and another with Scotland and Ireland, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, lubo_blaha said: It’s no different to usual seeding. It’s to avoid having one group with Spain and Germany and another with Scotland and Ireland, for example. absolutely,seedings just legitemised manipulation on behalf of the powers that be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On Thursday, December 07, 2017 at 20:20, lubo_blaha said: England to win the tournament whilst playing 5/7 games at Wembley. It'll be like Euro 96 for them. That worked out fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It’s no different to usual seeding. It’s to avoid having one group with Spain and Germany and another with Scotland and Ireland, for example. Would have been easily avoided if they hadn't added in the new "qualified hosts will have at least 2 home games" bit though. Can't imagine the nations who aren't hosting will be too happy about that either btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Looking forward to the Spanish anthem being booed by the "home" fans in Bilbao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Hamish Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Wembley getting extra games at the expense of another European city just drives a truck through the reasoning for this daft format in the first place. All about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I vaguely remember them saying that Cardiff might not get games due to lack of available hotel space. Seems odd that there were still allowed to host the Champions League Final though if that's the problem.Shame, I quite fancied the idea of adding a new ground, have been to Hampden and Wembley already. Will probably still try to get tickets if I'm still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick90 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Scotland and England would be in the same group ... but if one of them doesn`t qualify, the other will still have to play a group game in the paired stadium .... most likely, an England game at Hampden. Also Scotland and England might leave the UK ... 15 games minimum in the British Isles is certainly good for fans here .... pressure not to have a q-final in London, Glasgow or Dublin, since there are 4 other groups and nine other venues. It was a brave idea and one hopes it works to provide new platforms .. and a better deal for the smaller nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, mick90 said: Scotland and England would be in the same group ... but if one of them doesn`t qualify, the other will still have to play a group game in the paired stadium .... most likely, an England game at Hampden. Also Scotland and England might leave the UK ... 15 games minimum in the British Isles is certainly good for fans here .... pressure not to have a q-final in London, Glasgow or Dublin, since there are 4 other groups and nine other venues. It was a brave idea and one hopes it works to provide new platforms .. and a better deal for the smaller nations. If Scotland qualify, it'll be interesting to see which two games get played at home for England. Would they prefer having the two other games at Wembley with the knowledge they've got to come to Hampden or would they rather play us in lovely, leafy Wembers? If Scotland don't qualify, I could see them just giving England 3 "home" games - is it really worth the bother of sending what would be a huge support up to here with the potential for BANTZ that'll exist? Not really fair to the other sides having to play them at Wembley no matter what, but it's not worth the trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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